gearbasher

While riding this morning, I saw a Masi Gran Criterium...turned into a fixie. I don't know if I should cry or puke. Isn't there some kind of a law? I mean if you deface a Picasso, you're going to jail. Right?

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

Might as Well go for both and Puke....you've got the crying out of the way.

Ragooch

I saw a guy with a beard riding a road bike. It made me sick.

mickey85

Don't tell Dave!

thenomad

Is it Tuesday already?

mkeller234

I don't think it's really that bad. I wouldn't call the frame defaced over the fact that it does not have gears. As far as we know it may have been from ebay bought as a bare frame set? It's probably not what I would do with it but it must meet the needs and wants of it's owner. Now if you would say that it had been cut up... !

Anyway.... it can't be as bad as this monstrosity that someone on my local craigslist cobbled together:

https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/bik/1711957572.html

Yes.... that is 3 bikes that have been welded together

OzarkKing

I am all for individual freedoms and what you do at home is your own business, but when you put pictures of a crime on the internet, I draw the line. WARNING: the following link contains non-graphic images and Campagnolo wastage: https://www.eandsweb.com/cgi-bin/bike...an%20Criterium

mickey85

to tell the truth, I don't mind a fixed gear conversion, as long as the original parts are saved and nothing is cut off the bike. As long as it can be reverted to stock use, what's the problem?

EjustE

ok ok. Sigh of relief... It was not Drewed:

mkeller234

The way I see it, if the original parts get sold that gives me or someone else the opportunity to "restore" an old frame. I get queezy thinking that maybe something just got chucked out but how would you ever know?

I got my Raleigh Pro as a frame and fork only, and I was initially faced with a decision of how to build it. It can be fun to get creative with builds, I think Sheldon Brown's Raleigh Competition is a good example of that.

Chombi

Heck,..........just feel real good when you slam-drop those hacksaw weilding, SS/fixie, cyclo fashion trendy "hipsters" on your future big hillclimbs!! You can tell him that he's very visible from the top of the hill, thanks to the day-glo colors on his rims and bar tape!!
He'll be wishing for those gears back then!

Chombi

caloso

That's a really nice conversion, actually.

EjustE

Agreed. Brakes on the bike and everything left to be reverted

Saddle Up

Sorry but I'm not getting your point.

wrk101

As long as you own the Picasso, no one is going to jail.

+1 as long as nothing is chopped off, have at it.

khatfull

This was also a very tasteful conversion I noticed recently:

Forrest Gold - Fuji Del Rey - Single Speed - TALL - $250 (Schaumburg)

Date: 2010-04-26, 9:03AM CDT
Reply to: sale-62mzg-1710645128@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

Fuji Del Rey - Single Speed
25"/63.5cm Lugged Valite Frame

Stripped - Cleaned - Degreased - Regreased - Rebuilt

Original Wheelset (Gold Ukai Rims)
Original Alum Stem/Drops
Original Sugino Crank/Chainring
Original Diacompe 500 Brakes/Levers
Original Fuji Saddle

Replaced MKS Gold Pedals

NEW Freewheel (17t)
NEW Chain
NEW Gumwall Tires
NEW Profile Design Tape
NEW Brake Cables/Housing

$250
847-401-5831
If you come from the city I can meet you at the train.

• Location: Schaumburg
• it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

jtgotsjets

Seriously, that Masi looks good.

I don't see how conversions like this are any worse than something you might see in the Retro Roadies thread.

gomango

Really.

I've got some friends that would change your opinion.

Heck, my fourteen year old would give people fits with his level of conditioning.

I rode with a group last year that did the MS 150 rockin' SS/FG with racks and panniers.

I don't recall anyone passing us.


and both the Fuji and the Masi look like great rides.

Chombi

Well that Fuji and Masi were not shaved, hacked, "drewed" and dayglowed, so they retain their classic beauty......kudos to the owners of those bikes because the bikes are not "castrated" permanently!
All I can say is, with the same conditioning and experience, the rider with the gears, proper, non-cutdown bars and bottles will always win the big climbs! Now you can't argue with that!

Chombi

mickey85

I can argue with that. 40X13 gets me up hills faster than the roadies I ride with. I also find that, given a certain (rather hilly stretch), I can on average cut 5 minutes off my time between a geared 30 lb bike and a fixed gear, 27 lb UO8.

Once I get one of the VO bottom brackets, some modern flip-flop 700c wheels and better bars, I plan on setting it up as a 48X19 and seeing what it'll do then. I've the feeling that it'll go from one of my favorite bikes to being even better than that!

jish1969

That Masi looks pretty classy, a guy around me has a masi and he very hastily spray painted his fork orange to match the deep v's and the little bit of orange on the decals. Youll really cry if I manage to get a pic of that...

gomango

Really, it's these silly, entirely predictable "cartoonish" blasts at guys that rock ss/fg.

That's what bores me to tears.

It doesn't add to the C&V experience here, as more than a couple of us like to ride ss/fg.

....and let's not get into "big climbs" please.

I've ridden more than my fair share.

I'll say it again though, I've toured with guys on Quickbeams that would eat many "racer" types alive.

I've seen 'em do it.

Chombi

This is the C&V forum, and I think a good number of us have reasons to feel bad when beautiful and hard to find and afford classic bike frames are irreversably messed up. so I do not see it as useless and/or boring points to bring out when we see such things. Now if I post the same frustrations in the SS/Fixie forums,...........then I'd be a very looney man! I know we can't stop it from happening, but you can't also avoid us from feeling bad about it happening so many times to so many nice bikes that I would just love to restore/build up as a C&V project.
Yes, I believe your young cousins or friends that ride fixies might beat a geared rider because of their unusual talent and stregnth (I do have a 20 year old nephew that eats 13T rear gears regularly with his unusually strong gear mashing), but the same rider on the different bikes, ......the geared bike will always work better on a course with real hills on it......and when was the last ime we never encountered any elevation changes in our rides.....

Chombi

mickey85

But none of the ones pictured are irreversibly changed! You could take either one and with a groupset, make it exactly as it rolled out of the factory.

Chombi

Please read my post closely and you'll see and I did address this. It's the "cut up and "shaved" bikes that bothers me.

Chombi