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Old 07-08-10 | 02:44 PM
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Miyata top tube grommets / bushing

So I dropped off my Miyata 714 to get powder coated and the guy assured me they would take the rubber grommets/bushings off the top tube before coating. Those little rubber guys that help guide the brake cable internally. Well upon picking the frame up I find out they either destroyed or lost them. Is there any chance in hell I can get a pair of these? I'm just a little pissed that I have a freshly coated frame with two giant holes in the top tube that serve no purpose anymore. If actual Miyata replacements aren't available has anyone found a suitable cover up/plug? Any help appreciated, thanks.
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Any chance the ones for drilled Cinelli bars would work? I've seen them on ebay at times of course...

LIke these: https://www.flickr.com/photos/steel-is-real/page11/

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The last pair I bought came from American Cyclery in SF, probably around 2004. They might still have a few stashed away.

If not, you might also pm forum member Elev12k, he has a collection of Miyata's and might have a lead.
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I think you need to check your link - it doesn't necessarily point people in a clear direction.

I assume you were intending to link to something like this image? https://flic.kr/p/6MPqmS
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This is precisely why I did my own disassembling and brought just the bare frame to be painted.
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those cinellis might work. I know the Miyata ones were bigger on the inside so you had to really work them in, but once in they required no glue or anything to stay. the cinellis look like they would need to be glued. I might grab a pair just to see.

I'm pretty desperate at this point and want anything that will cover these holes.
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Old 07-09-10 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by raverson
The last pair I bought came from American Cyclery in SF, probably around 2004. They might still have a few stashed away.

If not, you might also pm forum member Elev12k, he has a collection of Miyata's and might have a lead.
I called American Cyclery and he said he ran out of them at some point and wasn't sure where to get them now. Bummer. I'll shoot Elev a PM though. thanks!
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Old 07-09-10 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by raverson
The last pair I bought came from American Cyclery in SF, probably around 2004. They might still have a few stashed away.

If not, you might also pm forum member Elev12k, he has a collection of Miyata's and might have a lead.
I called American Cyclery and he said he ran out of them at some point and wasn't sure where to get them now. Bummer. I'll shoot Elev a PM though. thanks!
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those cinellis might work. I know the Miyata ones were bigger on the inside so you had to really work them in, but once in they required no glue or anything to stay. the cinellis look like they would need to be glued. I might grab a pair just to see.

I'm pretty desperate at this point and want anything that will cover these holes.
No, I think these match what you're talking about. No glue. Check out this picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/steel-i...n/photostream/
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No, I think these match what you're talking about. No glue.
You never need any glue for any of these. It is in fact tension that holds the cables in place.
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Scroll the page and there it is...three photos at the bottom all illustrating the piece. I guess that was the extent of my effort for this particular venture...

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I think you need to check your link - it doesn't necessarily point people in a clear direction.

I assume you were intending to link to something like this image? https://flic.kr/p/6MPqmS
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got the dimensions of the cinelli ones it looks like they are too small and still pretty hard to find on top of that. so i guess i'm fairly out of luck here... going to try and see if I can get plates riveted over the holes? or epoxy something over them and just toss stickers over that.
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Tell the shop who lost them to have some fabricated for you.
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Also, I would scour a junkyard for a firewall wire pass thru out of a myriad of cars...you might find something passable that fits, and then you could always buy new ones at the matching dealer if you wanted to.
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I would try to fine a plain neoprene grommet (round type with groove around the outer circumference) that fits acceptably in the oval hole, with flanges engaged all around. Good source would be www.mcmaster.com , but a good hardware store may carry a selection large enough too. Then put in a cable housing, either waxed like the dickens or wrapped with the thinnest tape you can find, sticky side out. Then install these in the tube, and fill the space between grommet and housing with silicone sealant. Sculpt to the best of your ability and let cure. If you have any little bits sticking up, you can shave them off with a single-edged razor blade after cure.
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If this is the same piece used on the '87 312 and 512 I'm pretty sure I have a pair kicking around somewhere in the barn.
No promises, but I'll take a look. Might take a few days, though.
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gog: PM the forum member with the cracked Team, he wont be using his.
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gog: PM the forum member with the cracked Team, he wont be using his.
That's me. The gromets on mine were toast. Cracked apart from sun damage.
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Old 07-16-10 | 04:35 PM
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If this is the same piece used on the '87 312 and 512 I'm pretty sure I have a pair kicking around somewhere in the barn.
No promises, but I'll take a look. Might take a few days, though.
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I really appreciate it man. Not sure if they match but the holes in my frame are 5/16" x 7/8" with rounded edges, making them oval/pill shaped. Let me know what turns up! Thanks!
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