Preferred Chain?
09-11-10 | 12:14 PM
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Preferred Chain?
This may seem like a totally inane question, but it's been 20 years since i put the racing bike down and I'm just getting back into it...
I've got an 86 Guerciotti all Campy SR except for simplex shifters. Regina freewheels/chain.
Since I'm refurbishing the entire bike, I thought it might be best to simply buy a new chain and I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions....
Thanks!
I've got an 86 Guerciotti all Campy SR except for simplex shifters. Regina freewheels/chain.
Since I'm refurbishing the entire bike, I thought it might be best to simply buy a new chain and I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions....
Thanks!
09-11-10 | 02:31 PM
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feros ferio
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
I favor SRAM chains, PC-58 or one of its successors.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
09-11-10 | 02:49 PM
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I like the SRAM PC-850
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09-11-10 | 02:53 PM
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Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Well, the cheap KMC chains are nice enough for most of my bikes. I bought a Sram PC-58 for my Raleigh Professional. It's nice but I noticed it makes a different noise... almost sounds kind of goopy?
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09-11-10 | 02:53 PM
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09-11-10 | 02:56 PM
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The one on my primary bike is whatever Primitive Don sold me...think it was like $13? Anyway, it doesn't squeak and hasn't stretched yet. I'd call that good enough.
09-11-10 | 04:07 PM
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i like the cheap kmc chains without the "quick link" crap.
those quick links are noisy and stretch/wear down quicker than the rest of the chain. you can literally feel the link as it goes across your fw/cassette.
lastly, i can pop a pin out and in roughly as fast as i can get a quick link out and my hands won't get as dirty.
those quick links are noisy and stretch/wear down quicker than the rest of the chain. you can literally feel the link as it goes across your fw/cassette.
lastly, i can pop a pin out and in roughly as fast as i can get a quick link out and my hands won't get as dirty.
09-11-10 | 04:56 PM
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i like the cheap kmc chains without the "quick link" crap.
those quick links are noisy and stretch/wear down quicker than the rest of the chain. you can literally feel the link as it goes across your fw/cassette.
lastly, i can pop a pin out and in roughly as fast as i can get a quick link out and my hands won't get as dirty.
those quick links are noisy and stretch/wear down quicker than the rest of the chain. you can literally feel the link as it goes across your fw/cassette.
lastly, i can pop a pin out and in roughly as fast as i can get a quick link out and my hands won't get as dirty.
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09-11-10 | 06:18 PM
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From: Hurricane Alley , Florida
Bikes: Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.
I use , SRAM PC-870 . Even though it's listed for 8 speed. It works really well on 5 speed freewheels. Just put one on my Schwinn Le tour, and it shifts great.
MIke
https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-870-chain
MIke
https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-870-chain
09-11-10 | 08:13 PM
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I use , SRAM PC-870 . Even though it's listed for 8 speed. It works really well on 5 speed freewheels. Just put one on my Schwinn Le tour, and it shifts great.
MIke
https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-870-chain
MIke
https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-870-chain
09-11-10 | 08:24 PM
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Bikes: Schwinns: Paramount (Waterford), Peloton (1986 and 1999), 1987 Super Sport. Offbrand bikes: Bianchi Intenso, Diamondback Interval TG (Ironman), Peugeot Triathlon, Masi CX
All variants of SRAM PC series with the quick link. I have a stash of PC-951 chains that I purchased in bulk after they were mispriced (missing leading 1 after the $; disinterested cashier didn't seem to care). I've not used them on anything less than an 7 speed drivetrain but they're fine running chains, albeit they lack they shinies.
Criminally priced Wipperman chains? No thanks. Shimano one-shot rivets? Double no thanks.
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Criminally priced Wipperman chains? No thanks. Shimano one-shot rivets? Double no thanks.
B
09-11-10 | 09:57 PM
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The SRAMs sound fine for my Panasonic. For the rest of my bikes they need to be something other than shiny silver. Plain steel, brown, gray/brown, or gold would all be fine. Especially gold.
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1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
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09-11-10 | 10:04 PM
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the sram pc850 is the same as the 870 and 890 but not plated. it should work well for you (and its very cost effective)
09-11-10 | 10:10 PM
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09-12-10 | 02:42 AM
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One thing to add to the conversation: This tool is worth every bit and then some of its $15 price! Works perfectly on all quick-link type chains.
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/chain.html
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/chain.html
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09-12-10 | 03:07 AM
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One thing to add to the conversation: This tool is worth every bit and then some of its $15 price! Works perfectly on all quick-link type chains.
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/chain.html
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/chain.html
09-12-10 | 07:14 AM
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While you're replacing the chain, I recommend replacing the freewheel at the same time. Two reasons for this:
1. A new chain on an old freewheel might cause skipping, either immediately or soon thereafter. Not only that, it could cause premature chain wear.
2. A Shimano freewheel, coupled with a modern chain, will provide superior shifting than you're accustomed to, even with friction shifting.
Get a genuine Shimano freewheel. You won't be disappointed. And coming from me, a Shimano detractor, this really says something.
1. A new chain on an old freewheel might cause skipping, either immediately or soon thereafter. Not only that, it could cause premature chain wear.
2. A Shimano freewheel, coupled with a modern chain, will provide superior shifting than you're accustomed to, even with friction shifting.
Get a genuine Shimano freewheel. You won't be disappointed. And coming from me, a Shimano detractor, this really says something.
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09-12-10 | 02:56 PM
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Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
While you're replacing the chain, I recommend replacing the freewheel at the same time. Two reasons for this:
1. A new chain on an old freewheel might cause skipping, either immediately or soon thereafter. Not only that, it could cause premature chain wear.
2. A Shimano freewheel, coupled with a modern chain, will provide superior shifting than you're accustomed to, even with friction shifting.
Get a genuine Shimano freewheel. You won't be disappointed. And coming from me, a Shimano detractor, this really says something.
1. A new chain on an old freewheel might cause skipping, either immediately or soon thereafter. Not only that, it could cause premature chain wear.
2. A Shimano freewheel, coupled with a modern chain, will provide superior shifting than you're accustomed to, even with friction shifting.
Get a genuine Shimano freewheel. You won't be disappointed. And coming from me, a Shimano detractor, this really says something.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
09-12-10 | 02:57 PM
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From: Colorado Springs, CO
Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
Awesome, thanks! I've probably never seen that model because the LBSs always carry the fancier plated models.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
