Old Yeller

Here's one for our Peugeot fans. I am not the seller and do not know the seller.

https://southbend.craigslist.org/bik/2010400303.html

Vintage 1979 Peugeot Course 12 Speed Road Bike - $300 (BERRIEN SPRINGS MI)
Date: 2010-10-17, 6:30AM EDT
Reply to: sale-2cxnm-2010400303@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]


EXCELLENT CONDITION.ALWAYS STORED INSIDE. LOOKS ALMOST NEW. HAS 700c MAVIK ALLOY WHEELSET. 700X23c ALL CONDITION TIRES.35 INCH STANDOVER HEIGHT.62 CM FRAME.$300.00 FIRM CASH ONLY.CALL 269 473 3441 OR 269 313 3171 recycle


* Location: BERRIEN SPRINGS MI
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PostingID: 2010400303

DiegoFrogs

Pass.

cb400bill

It has been for sale almost all summer, too.

20grit

if I remember right that's an HLE or Carbolite frame. No way.

robtown

I sold this 85 Competition for $300. It was the restoration project from hell - but came out ok. The tubing is Reynolds 531. I had to replace the stem, seatpost, saddle, and tape.

bloom87

300 for any carbolite is most likely a near-scam

cudak888 

Agreed. All it has is in its favor is a paint job that appears expensive, for the models above it - up to the PY-10 - carried it:



Granted, the scheme is much more palatable than the '84+ redesign.

-Kurt

Chombi

300 bucks for an entry level frame like that?? forget it!
It's not a bad bike and should give a very good ride, but, but it's just not 300 dollars good. Maybe $175ish to even 200 on a good day and if it's in mint condition.

Chombi

T-Mar

Looks more like a 1980 model to me. The tubing is Peugeot 103 hi-tensile steel. I guess he figures it's worth the price because he upgraded the wheelset to 700C aluminum rims. I just hope that the future owner doesn't have the stem pop out on him.

randyjawa 

I believe that there are some misconceptions, regarding the pedigree of the, Canadian made, Peugeot "Course".

The "Course" is not an entry level bicycle. It is the entry level model, for Peugeot's higher end line, which includes the "Course", the "Competition" and the "Super Competition". There might be others, but these I have had experience with.

The entry level line-up, also made of Carbolite 103 high carbon steel, includes the "Club", the "Sport", the "Super Sport", the "Trophy" and the "Sprint". And it was the "Sprint" that, might have, caused some of the confusion, I see in this thread. Admittedly, the confusion might be my own. Anyway...

The "Sprint" wore a very similar look to that of the "Course". Pastel paint, identical art (except for the decal on the top tube, indicating model name). Easy to confuse with the much better Peugeot "Course".

The "Course" featured Simplex forged drops, with axle positioners, while the "Sprint" was fitted with pressed steel drops. The "Course" wore the mentioned 700c wheels, the "Sprint" 27" x 1", not 1 1/4". Little differences, such as these just mentioned, made a big difference, in ride quality, between the two bicycles.

So, though I am hardly an expert, I do think the Canadian made Peugeot "Course" is one heck of a nice bicycle. And, for what it is worth...

I recently compared the weights of two Peugeot "Course" bicycles. One, a 56cm with Carbolite 103 tubing. The other, a 54cm, built with Reynolds 501 butted chromalloy. The 56cm Carbolite 103 bike weighed almost 1 1/2 pounds less than the Reynolds one.

Something to think about. And I will probably wish I had thought about it, before sharing all of this opinion.

Second, the "Course" was fitted with 700c wheels. At least, every Peugeot "Course", that I have encountered, was fitted with 700c wheels.

Excuse me while I don my fire proof riding shorts:-)

cudak888 

You're going to have to explain why the Course in the OP's photographs has the same stamped drops that one would find on a UO-8.

-Kurt

20grit

Weren't some later Course bikes also spec'd with Vitus 181?

Chombi

I zeroed in on that first too......and the budget Weinmann brakes (405s or lower?). Only thing really missing in the Peugeot low budget picture are turkey levers. The levers might be replacements already. Still quite a nice bike and certainly well above "department store" level.

Chombi

T-Mar

Why are we arguing about a bicycle that looks like it's been in a crash? The fork appears to be bent backwards and you can see what appears be a kink in the underside of the top tube, just behind the head lug.

cudak888 

Someone show me where these closeup photos are located...

-Kurt

randyjawa 

Very good point! I would like to say you got me, but then I started looking much closer.

I looked, closely at pictures of every Peugeot "Course" that I have owned. Virtually everyone features the Simplex forged drops in the rear. Everyone featured half chromed front forks. And every one had the word "Course", in script, located on the front of the drive side top tube.

Other things are inconsistent with the bikes I have come across. It is possible that the bike featured in this thread is not Canadian made? That said, the frame set looks more "Sprint" than "Course".

So, a mystery to me. I do not think the bike pictured is a "Course", in spite of what the decal might say. That sounds foolish, even to me. But the bike just doesn't look right. Even the forks look nothing like any other "Course" I have seen.

So, sorry if I mislead, but I still stand by my opinion - the Peugeot "Course" bikes, that I have owned, are pretty darn nice. I recommend trying one out, should the opportunity present itself.

PeugStone

Sorry for late entry, but RandyJawa is correct about the UO10 "Course," especially in the 1979 year when it was Peugeot's catalog entry "racer" model. In other years the UO10 was their top "touring" catalog model. The photo here does not show chrome fork top and ends, nor is the script style "Course" decal on the top tube near the saddle? Refer to the 1979 catalog at retropeugeot.com, model UO10. The AO8's were the entry, the UO8s & UO9 were better but still entry+ road and tour bikes. OMT, the seller's 35" stand over also seems tall for a 62cm frame (more likely the taller 64cm)?

I also agree with RJ, about the great ride. I bought my 79' UO10 Course for the tall 66cm frame (nearly 36" stand over"); even at that size, this (old school method) well-balanced bike still requires only modest peddling to ride "no hands." And at that size, it's weighs just under 27lbs. which works very well for this tall 210 lb rider! It's not the PXN-10 "Super-Competition" light weight, but that frame max's at 64cm. My 79' is also the darker Peugeot Blue (BO) with the champagne gold lettering (not what looks like Pearl Blue (AK), in the pic). In other words, the blue+champagne offers a STUNNING look to go with the tall ride -- queue The Hollies, "Long Cool Woman in a Black (er' Blue) Dress!"

PeugStone

In the French 1979 catalog at cyclespeugeot.com, the UO10 Course was known as the PBN10 Course, and is also in the racer section w/
PY10, PX10, PV10, PF10, & the PBN10.

Michael Angelo 

Thanks for the update, 4 years later......

DiegoFrogs

Pass.

Grand Bois

Pass what?