A seller is telling me this is supposed to be Campy Super Record. I doubt it however...can anybody clarify? Sorry for the bad quality of the pics.

Thank you in advance!

The front brake caliper looks to be Super Record. The levers and rear derailleur are not Super Record.

The front brake caliper looks indeed like a Super Record.
As for the brake levers and the gear shifters, I even doubt they could be Campagnolo. I am almost sure they are not.
As for the rear derailleur, I think it is campagnolo Victory or Triumph.

Agreed. The brake levers look like Dia-Compe ? .... The shifters look like Shimano something, and the rear derailleur is low level Campy.
The seller ought to be able to read the names on the parts.

Was there a difference between Record and Super Record calipers ? I thought the difference was the holes in the brake levers.

wow, that was fast! i thank you all...
strangely the bike is offered as "with complete super record group"...in particular as regards the brake levers i had y doubts...now I know. thank you!

Very dishonest seller with little bike knowledge stay away unless it's dirt cheep.

The brake caliper is a mid-80s Record caliper, and no, there is no difference between Super Record and Record brake calipers.

The rear derailleur is either 1st generation Triomphe or first generation Victory. IIRC, the Victory has a toothed pivot stop on the back of the derailleur to allow you to adjust the angle of the dangle; the Triomphe lacks this piece.

Well, the Nuovo Record and super Record calipers themself are the same but tire guide is different, making one a Nuovo Record caliper and the other a Super Record caliper. The Super Record tire guides are rubber corvered and the Nuovo Calipers are not.

That's not true. The real difference is that the Super Record pad holders are aluminum.

My mistake, the assumption came with the fact that all the bikes I have had with Super Record groups had rubberized tire guides while the bike I have had with Nuovo Record groups had non rubberized tire guides.

Late Super Record brake caliper, Triomphe RD. Caliper is worth looking at, RD isn't worth $10 bucks. If the entire headset is original, it's Super. If not, it may be Nuovo with a Super washer on it, though I doubt it.

Downtube shifters are Suntour Accushift-era, stem is Shimano Dura-Ace/600 AX. Levers are some form of Dia-Compe-produced offering.

-Kurt

The rubberized guides did not exist on SR or NR until 1978; at which point they were added to both groups.

-Kurt

[QUOTE=Homebrew01;11643881]The seller ought to be able to read the names on the parts. QUOTE]

I'll have to look at my bikes but I don't recall alotof Campi parts haveing group names on them until the mid '90s. I am pretty sure my Triomphe RD does not have a group name on it.

There are no group names on any of the parts listed. Silkscreened names begain in 1995.

-Kurt

What I meant was, that the shifters and brake levers will not say Campagnolo at all, so it should be obvious they are not any model of Campy.
QR lever also looks to be some other brand, so I doubt the hubs are Campy.

Headset looks steel (not sure), so the calipers may be the only SR parts, if they are. I wonder what the crankset and FD are.

I can see getting some Campy parts confused, but this sounds more like a lie to say "with complete super record group" when at least half the parts aren't Campy to start with.

And the skewer on the rear wheel has a Maillard plastic nut on it.

thank you all for the exhaustive discussion of my question! it sure is kind of strange if the seller says "complete campy super record" if it is obvious that it is not. glad i asked you because there is no chance for me to check in real life, the bike would have been shipped. and by the way, it would not have been cheap, the seller asks for 650 euro/900 dollars.

so again: thank you all very much for your help!

it is always possible the seller simply did not know the difference. I see lots of bikes posted for sale as "All Campagnolo" and they only have derailuers and shifters with the old Campi clone cranks and hubs.

what brand was the actual frame anyway? I don't recall that mentioned

"Full Campagnolo Super Record" must be one of the most abused monikers in the ads of our various online sales venues. Some of the parts, like bottom brackets, are extremely rare, and others may or may not ever have gone beyond the pro peleton, like the elusive hubs with original Campagnolo ti axles recently discussed at length here. Not counting all the details that the average Joe's, like myself, know nothing about, such as the alloy brake pad guides and so on.

perhaps after `1978/79? Does anyone know what year the aluminum holders were introduced? Surely there was no difference in brakes prior to 1978?

that was ferraroli

I totally agree. Victory and Triumph are actually tell apart at a casual glance. You've got a good eye.