Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Dig these odd brazings on my '46 Roadmaster

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Dig these odd brazings on my '46 Roadmaster

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-20-10 | 08:46 PM
  #1  
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,630
Likes: 18
From: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)

Bikes: one of each

Dig these odd brazings on my '46 Roadmaster

I've spent some time cleaning this one up and couldn't help but notice that the top tube looks like some sort of electro weld machine technique, while the middle tube (what do you call them) looks hand brazed;


sailorbenjamin is offline  
Reply
Old 11-20-10 | 09:41 PM
  #2  
michael k's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,140
Likes: 2
From: Portland,Or
Sweet looking old bike and I like that basket.

Probably done to save time in manufacturing and wonder it if reduces weight too?

This one is made of lead I think.

michael k is offline  
Reply
Old 11-20-10 | 09:47 PM
  #3  
rhm's Avatar
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,810
Likes: 597
From: NJ, NYC, LI

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

Really wild, Ben! Do you think the lower tube was after market? Could be both are welded the same way, but someone tried to smooth out the lower one with lead solder... but that doesn't make any sense. Well, what I see doesn't make sense. What do you think it is?
rhm is offline  
Reply
Old 11-20-10 | 09:57 PM
  #4  
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,630
Likes: 18
From: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)

Bikes: one of each

I'm guessing something about the production process made it easier to fit things together this way. I was just reading a Roadmaster ad from '52 that bragged of a "100% electronically welded frame" whatever that means.
I just went and had another look, all the tubes going to the bottom bracket were done like the top tube. The rear fender bridges and seatstays at the seat cluster are done like the middle tube. Maybe the main triangle was done in a machine and the rest was still done by hand at this time.
I stole that basket off my wife's bike 3 weeks ago and she hasn't noticed yet. She never rides that thing. I've been running errands on mine.
sailorbenjamin is offline  
Reply
Old 11-21-10 | 10:06 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 10

Bikes: Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon

Or a repair?
dbakl is offline  
Reply
Old 11-21-10 | 10:15 AM
  #6  
ftwelder's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,081
Likes: 10
From: vermont

Bikes: Many

when a frame is manufactured with the resistance welding process they put opposite electrical charges on frame components and jam it together with force when an arc is established, like a giant spot weld. There is on occasion a failure of a joint to properly weld. In those cases, that frame could be run through a fillet brazing process to get it back into the production loop. That would be my guess. Or while the process was being developed they only ERW'd sub assemblies.
ftwelder is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PistaRider311
Framebuilders
22
08-07-14 01:23 PM
TauLepton
Mountain Biking
9
01-31-13 01:38 PM
robatsu
Classic & Vintage
29
05-10-11 06:07 PM
rusted_rider
Road Cycling
67
02-17-11 05:11 PM
no1mad
Framebuilders
17
01-30-11 09:14 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.