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chip.hedler 05-12-22 07:16 PM

Learning a lot here, but would love a model ID
 
Hi!

Just took possession of a pretty nice 53 cm Bianchi with Columbus Matrix label on seat tube,; Gipiemme hubs, cranks, seat post, headset, pedals, droputs; ITM drop bars; Ambrosio 19 Extra rims and sewups; Modolo calipers; Campy NR rear derailleur, Campy front derailleur, Campy shift levers on brazed-on mount; 968 and 6 . 1 on bottom bracket shell; "Bianchi" in san-serif letters cut into top of seat stays; Bianchi eagles cut into fork crown. Browsing this forum leads me to guess this is mid-1980 vintage, middle-of-the-quality range bike, but I'd greatly appreciate more expert insight into this bike's identity. Haven't figured out how to upload images given this being my first post. Thanks in advance.

T-Mar 05-12-22 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by chip.hedler (Post 22504555)
Hi!

Just took possession of a pretty nice 53 cm Bianchi with Columbus Matrix label on seat tube,; Gipiemme hubs, cranks, seat post, headset, pedals, droputs; ITM drop bars; Ambrosio 19 Extra rims and sewups; Modolo calipers; Campy NR rear derailleur, Campy front derailleur, Campy shift levers on brazed-on mount; 968 and 6 . 1 on bottom bracket shell; "Bianchi" in san-serif letters cut into top of seat stays; Bianchi eagles cut into fork crown. Browsing this forum leads me to guess this is mid-1980 vintage, middle-of-the-quality range bike, but I'd greatly appreciate more expert insight into this bike's identity. Haven't figured out how to upload images given this being my first post. Thanks in advance.

Welcome to the forums. I didn't think that Bianchi used Matrix or at least didn't call it such in the USA market. Regardless, your frame was manufactured in 1986 and possibly late enough in the calendar year to be a 1987 model. The 1987 models typically have a 1986-1987 Campione del Mondo Colorado Springs decal on the down tube, just above the shift levers. If it doesn't have one, it's should be a 1986 model. Based on the components, it sounds like the mid-range Nuovo Alloro model, which was 6th in the 13 model road line. These were typically market in the USA with the Bianchi Formula II tubing decals.

chip.hedler 05-12-22 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22504585)
Welcome to the forums. I didn't think that Bianchi used Matrix or at least didn't call it such in the USA market. Regardless, your frame was manufactured in 1986 and possibly late enough in the calendar year to be a 1987 model. The 1987 models typically have a 1986-1987 Campione del Mondo Colorado Springs decal on the down tube, just above the shift levers. If it doesn't have one, it's should be a 1986 model. Based on the components, it sounds like the mid-range Nuovo Alloro model, which was 6th in the 13 model road line. These were typically market in the USA with the Bianchi Formula II tubing decals.


Figured out how to create album of images: [this domain]/g/album/24967175 (sorry I can't include actual URLs yet)

Bianchigirll 05-13-22 03:27 AM

I think it a ‘86 Nuovo Alloro. Could it be Canadian?


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f12577392.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f49bcb9ad.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...67893a1a5.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...05348e2fb.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9614733c9.jpeg

buddiiee 05-13-22 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22504532)
This thread might better suit your purpose: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...hi-thread.html

Ok, gotcha. I was searching for a more appropriate thread but I couldn't decide. Thank you.

buddiiee 05-15-22 03:40 PM

I can't find the serial number on this rekord or vittoria bike; any clue where it may be?

T-Mar 05-15-22 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22507615)
I can't find the serial number on this rekord or vittoria bike; any clue where it may be?

If it is a Vittoria, then it should be on the bottom bracket shell. Please post photos.

buddiiee 05-15-22 04:17 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c50bf34e9.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e8a31f018.jpg

T-Mar 05-15-22 05:51 PM

The next place that I would check would be the seat lug, on both sides. However, that location was used before the Vittoria was introduced.Please include a full, drive side photo of the bicycle,

Bianchigirll 05-16-22 03:17 AM


I think the series there just hard to see because of the paint, dirt and those dots.

I see a Victory crank and what appears to be a Victory hub. I don’t understand why you’re so reluctant to help us help you or even listen to what we tell you. There were very few if any Record models listed in the US market, and if you bike looks almost exactly like the one in the link then it most likely the US Vittoria model which very likely carried a name more familiar to European markets as Record Victory.

I would love to hear and see more about the parts and other markings on this bike

buddiiee 05-16-22 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22507746)
The next place that I would check would be the seat lug, on both sides. However, that location was used before the Vittoria was introduced.Please include a full, drive side photo of the bicycle,

Will do.

buddiiee 05-16-22 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 22508097)
I think the series there just hard to see because of the paint, dirt and those dots.

I see a Victory crank and what appears to be a Victory hub. I don’t understand why you’re so reluctant to help us help you or even listen to what we tell you. There were very few if any Record models listed in the US market, and if you bike looks almost exactly like the one in the link then it most likely the US Vittoria model which very likely carried a name more familiar to European markets as Record Victory.

I would love to hear and see more about the parts and other markings on this bike

Who says I'm not listening? lol. I'm all ears! If you say it's most likely a Vittoria then I'm with you! Stand by for more pictures.

buddiiee 05-16-22 03:11 PM

Here's some of the other requested pics. Also, I think this entire frame/fork was chrome under this paint. Is that standing operating procedure for Bianchis?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a683c565e4.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e18a96b9c0.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...219e785cb8.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea179dc193.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...af0af8667d.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2b5be6ebf1.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fe5c54aa08.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c6b54e84d2.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...075bd29cf2.jpg

T-Mar 05-17-22 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22508919)
Here's some of the other requested pics. Also, I think this entire frame/fork was chrome under this paint. Is that standing operating procedure for Bianchis?

The general configuration is that of a Vittoria, while the stay caps and crown point towards a 1985 model, as opposed to later. There have been some obvious changes, such as the handlebar, stem, brake levers, saddle, seat post and pedals.

buddiiee 05-17-22 09:56 AM

I see... One thing I noticed was that most other people's versions of this bike have pump bosses and I don't see any on mine; was that because it was too small a frame to fit a frame pump to?

filmfansue 05-27-22 02:28 PM

I'm trying to get specifications for the Bianchi Advantage (women's) bike I bought in, I think, 1993 or '94. It's forest green, I'd say.
S/N is H3C24326.
I bashed the fork and need to replace it, wondering whether I can use one I saw on eBay.
Thanks for any info!

T-Mar 05-27-22 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by filmfansue (Post 22522162)
I'm trying to get specifications for the Bianchi Advantage (women's) bike I bought in, I think, 1993 or '94. It's forest green, I'd say.
S/N is H3C24326.
I bashed the fork and need to replace it, wondering whether I can use one I saw on eBay.
Thanks for any info!

Your Advantage was manufactured in Taiwan during March 1993 by Hodaka. Critical parameters for the new fork will be the wheel size, brake mounting, crown race diameter and steering tube length, all of which you can get from your existing fork.

buddiiee 06-06-22 07:13 AM

Got another one. I'm guessing 1987 Strada LX?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11f1840701.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b670dcea96.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...054c9aef92.jpg

T-Mar 06-06-22 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22532217)
Got another one. I'm guessing 1987 Strada LX?

No, it's a 1989 Strada LX, manufactured by Hodaka of Taiwan.

buddiiee 06-06-22 12:59 PM

1989. Thank you! :) And just for curiosity, am I right in assuming just the main triangle's chromoly? Is the rear triangle and fork hi ten I'm guessing?

T-Mar 06-06-22 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22532641)
1989. Thank you! :) And just for curiosity, am I right in assuming just the main triangle's chromoly? Is the rear triangle and fork hi ten I'm guessing?

Yes, only the three main tubes are chromium-molbydenum and since butting isn't mentioned, they are plain/straight gauge. Given that it's a Tange product, it's likely Tange #5 or the seamed equivalent.

buddiiee 06-06-22 03:35 PM

Excellent. Hey on the Vittoria, is the drive side bb cup most likely normal or reverse thread.

T-Mar 06-06-22 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22532853)
Excellent. Hey on the Vittoria, is the drive side bb cup most likely normal or reverse thread.

That all depends on what you consider "normal" but both cups of the Vittoria bottom bracket should be right hand thread.

buddiiee 06-06-22 04:42 PM

I guess normal would be right hand thread to me. Thank you.

T-Mar 06-07-22 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by buddiiee (Post 22532921)
I guess normal would be right hand thread to me. Thank you.

Most forum members would probably consider a left hand thread to be "normal" for a fixed cup, as that is the English standard, which was used by most countries and has become the ISO standard.


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