What would this do to your collection?
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What would this do to your collection?
I know, of course, that this bill won't get anywhere; that's not the issue. It's a bill before the NY State Assembly that would require bicycles to be registered, $25 fee plus $5 renewal annually.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
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I would simply get 'dealer plates' like auto dealerships use LOL
I agree I doubt it will get much traction as people can se it for what it is a money grab. some idiot in Pa tried something like that for guns a few years ago I don't think it ever got out of commetee.
Bills would require license plate for all bikes, annual registration
February 28, 2011 10:52 AM
Chris White
ALBANY -- It’s like your car’s license plate, but for your bike.
Two bills recently introduced in the state Assembly would require that all bikes in the state be registered each year and sport a license plate.
Assemblyman Michael DenDekker introduced the measures.
The first applies to personal bicycles. The license plate would cost $25 for the first year and $5 each year after.
The second bill would require a $50 license plate fee for commercial bikes. It would also require casualty insurance.
All bikes would have to pass a safety inspection -- including lamp and equipment requirements -- to get the license.
Anyone under 18 would have a special mark on their plate.
If passed, DenDekker estimated the state would bring in more than $1.8 million in the first year and $375,000 each following
I agree I doubt it will get much traction as people can se it for what it is a money grab. some idiot in Pa tried something like that for guns a few years ago I don't think it ever got out of commetee.
Bills would require license plate for all bikes, annual registration
February 28, 2011 10:52 AM
Chris White
ALBANY -- It’s like your car’s license plate, but for your bike.
Two bills recently introduced in the state Assembly would require that all bikes in the state be registered each year and sport a license plate.
Assemblyman Michael DenDekker introduced the measures.
The first applies to personal bicycles. The license plate would cost $25 for the first year and $5 each year after.
The second bill would require a $50 license plate fee for commercial bikes. It would also require casualty insurance.
All bikes would have to pass a safety inspection -- including lamp and equipment requirements -- to get the license.
Anyone under 18 would have a special mark on their plate.
If passed, DenDekker estimated the state would bring in more than $1.8 million in the first year and $375,000 each following
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Yeah, dealer plates, I like that idea.
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I know, of course, that this bill won't get anywhere; that's not the issue. It's a bill before the NY State Assembly that would require bicycles to be registered, $25 fee plus $5 renewal annually.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
(Sounds like you should consider it yourself, if you live in a state which would seriously entertain such a DRACONIAN regulation on bikes!)
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In Va Bch where I used to live growing up it was "encouraged" to have your bike licensed by the city. I do not know it it was required though. All you would get was a yellow numbered reflective sticker to place on the downtube. All it did for us was to separate us from the tourists in the summer.
Upon further inverstigation is it required! It say the police will seize an unregistered bike News article
Upon further inverstigation is it required! It say the police will seize an unregistered bike News article
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For those of you considering swapping plates around, be advised that Assemblyman Michael DenDekker will likely have thousands of SWAT teams stationed at bicycle check-points 24-7, to match your license plate to your bike's serial number.
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Protests usually come from 3 sources, one is residents who have bicycles, sometimes several who will be majorly hit by the new tax, second is environmental groups who will see people deciding that the extra tax is too big an extra burden and just continue driving, third tourism boards, who see people who would bring and use bikes into the states, avoiding that state because of the extra tax.
It's been done before and usually the cost to run the program costs more then the fees generated, so they quit after a while.
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Yah right, they're gonna stop everyone on the street without bicycle plates....... Try doing that to cas strapped college kids in a campus and the LEOs will find themselve in a middle of a giant demonstration the next day in every campus. I would say if registration does help curb theft it would be something to consider, but I don't think it ever worked to minimize theft when they did have registration enforced in some jursidictions many years ago.
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Should be defeated -
the cost to put the program in place will exceed the revenue generated
the police won't be able to enforce it adequately
parents won't license kids bikes
Will they issue "antique" bike license plates, with lower fees? I want one.
the cost to put the program in place will exceed the revenue generated
the police won't be able to enforce it adequately
parents won't license kids bikes
Will they issue "antique" bike license plates, with lower fees? I want one.
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An assemblywoman in NJ tried this a few weeks ago and withdrew the bill after the huge outcry. Just goes to show, the only thing stupider and greedier than a Jersey politician in a New York one!
As for what I would do, that depends on the penalty. I'd probably take my chances. I read somewhere that bikes must have brakes capable of skidding the tires, so every time I go out with my fixed gear with just a front brake I'm probably already violating some obscure law.
An assemblywoman in NJ tried this a few weeks ago and withdrew the bill after the huge outcry. Just goes to show, the only thing stupider and greedier than a Jersey politician in a New York one!
As for what I would do, that depends on the penalty. I'd probably take my chances. I read somewhere that bikes must have brakes capable of skidding the tires, so every time I go out with my fixed gear with just a front brake I'm probably already violating some obscure law.
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New Jersey had a simular peice of legislation come up this year, it quickley died.
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I think the heart of the OP is "how many bikes would you register at the expense of $25 annually to comply with this law"? I would register four.
There's really no need to think about it any further. I highly doubt any of us will be subject to such a law. If we ever were, I'm certain the enforcement of said law would be lax at best.
There's really no need to think about it any further. I highly doubt any of us will be subject to such a law. If we ever were, I'm certain the enforcement of said law would be lax at best.
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
to match your license plate to your bike's serial number.
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to match your license plate to your bike's serial number.
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I'd be asking why vintage bikes aren't treated like vintage cars. In this state: One time plate fee, no inspections, and vastly lowered property taxes (a friends 1959 Caddy is valued at 100$ for tax purposes. Yeah, right). Since all my bikes but a few are older than 25 years... hmm....
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They're already talking about licensing bicycles in Texas, too. These guys NEED your money and have the power to take it.
Why not think about the whole deal while they're at it.
Inspection, helmet or proof of medical insurance, PROOF OF INSURANCE. Already in place for the motorcyclists.
after all, we are wearing out those streets that gas taxes built ;-\
Why not think about the whole deal while they're at it.
Inspection, helmet or proof of medical insurance, PROOF OF INSURANCE. Already in place for the motorcyclists.
after all, we are wearing out those streets that gas taxes built ;-\
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I know, of course, that this bill won't get anywhere; that's not the issue. It's a bill before the NY State Assembly that would require bicycles to be registered, $25 fee plus $5 renewal annually.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
So, assuming this actually passed; and assuming it applies only to bikes you actually ride; but also assuming it applies to all bikes you actually ride; how many of your bikes would you register? I'd have to register at least four, I think... and that would be a difficult choice.
Gee, I wonder where this guy got the idea...
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