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Old 04-22-11 | 07:06 AM
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I know I've seen pictures of a stem that has been drilled and perhaps tapped to accept the front brake cable adjuster screw. On my "project" I'd like to do something like that to clean up the front end a little (plus I don't have a nice cable hanger).

Has anyone done this themselves or am I asking for trouble?
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Old 04-22-11 | 07:25 AM
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I've never done it, but I have seriously thought about it simply because the idea of the cable stop in the stem was a little different (than my other set ups) and attractive. I didn't see there'd be any problem because if there was it wouldn't have already been done. In the end, though, I could see I really wasn't going to like having the cable sticking up out of the stem all in the way of my hands or a possible handlebar bag.

So, safety an issue? No, I don't think so. You'd have to drill all of the way through with a bit the size of the cable screw and, then, finish up with a milling bit only part of the way through to have an edge inside for the ferrel to butt against. To do it "nicely", a drill press would be the way to go.

Might be more trouble than it's worth, though. But, that's just what I figure.
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Old 04-22-11 | 08:03 AM
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I have just such a vestigial tapped hole on a replacement (longer) GB stem, that is mounted on one of my Super Courses.

Though I'm using the brake hanger instead, I have no qualms about it being there whatsoever. I am sure that whoever put it there long ago used it, and rode it without incident.
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Old 04-22-11 | 08:08 AM
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1) I can't imagine it would be an issue as long as the holes were chamfered nicely and smoothed and whatever stem is fairly substantial in its construction to begin with.
2) I would definitely use a drill press (you want the hole to be nice and vertical.
3) If you chicken out and can't find a hangar let me know, I can probably pick one up for you at a co-op/used store.
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Old 04-22-11 | 08:29 AM
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Old 04-22-11 | 08:32 AM
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here's mine

I love that, fresh orange powdercoat (?) with Mafac Racers it looks like and clear gel grips. Such an anachronism!

I gotta get around to a SS here sometime.
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Old 04-22-11 | 10:11 AM
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I've lost count of the # of times someone has pointed out mine and "that's gonna break on you one day".

Still hasn't.

BTW, this was 1974, I was 17, using a borrowed hand-held drill.
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Old 04-22-11 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
I have just such a vestigial tapped hole on a replacement (longer) GB stem, that is mounted on one of my Super Courses.
Twas a Carlton thing. I've got one on my Carlton/Raleigh. My only thought is that maybe stems were made for that with thicker bits in places.
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Old 04-22-11 | 10:56 AM
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Similar thought: Drill and tap the stem to accept a bolt-equipped slug about 2" long and the diameter of a handlebar. I'd use it to mount the bike computer to one side of the stem and below the level of the handlebar, so when I turn the bike over to change a flat I don't scratch the computer. And it would look pretty clean.
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Old 04-22-11 | 01:38 PM
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Cool, this sounds like it'll work. I just need to figure out exactly what length stem I'll need and go from there. Does anyone have any upclose pictures?
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Old 04-22-11 | 01:59 PM
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I seem to recal seeing some older road bike with a setup like what you are talking about, likely old Peugeots and Motos when I worked in a shop.

I would like to find a similar stem for ATBs and Hybrids that had a pulley and adjst barrel located under the stem like this one.

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Old 04-22-11 | 02:37 PM
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It was pretty common back in the days when centerpulls ruled the earth.
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Old 04-22-11 | 03:18 PM
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I'm planning on using it in conjunction with canti's
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I think I remember the cable centerline being about 37mm from the centerline of the steerer. It would be ideal if you could tap threads M6X1 in the hole or "spot face" the location on the hole so there is something "square" for the cable stop to rest against.

I think the clearance hole for M6 is 15/64" as 1/4" is too big.

I am assuming you are talking about a cast aluminum stem. If you are talking about a tubular steels stem, you MUST weld/braze a tube through the hole you drill. DO NOT be tempted to just drill a hole through the middle of a steel stem just drop in some type of cable stop. This could cause the stem to shear. You don't want this.
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Old 04-22-11 | 05:14 PM
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those are the original Mafac Racers that were on the frame-a 'Francia'- in 1975 when i graduated from college, Khatful, all that's left of the original machine. it had been hanging in the rafters for decades when i took it down and had it PC'd and built up with this'n'that....glad you like it. one thing that really gets me is that its shockingly light, considering....
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Bear in mind that any stem movement will change the brake adjustment. Which means, of course, you can adjust the brakes by moving the stem up or down.

The old GB spearpoint stems that came this way had a threaded section for an adjusting barrel. I've never liked the look.
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Old 04-23-11 | 09:41 AM
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I drilled and tapped many of my own forged alloy stems for this in the past.
Never had one break.
After doing the first one "freehand" I learned to always set it up with a clamp and drill press so the hole and countersink was straight, concentric and at the proper angle: measure thrice, drill twice, tap once.
The slick trick I chanced on was to insert a small length of teflon cable liner thru the adjuster and stem: worked a charm.
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UH back to the drilling the stem idea, was there a thread on drilling a stem to mount a bell? was it just a link? I am really intrested in knowing what type of bell it was.
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