rootboy 

[QUOTE=Kinst_VonSterga;12546132]Is there a post/link that shows how to do the following ...

what I can't figure out is ... why did you ask this question in the first place. It is obvious you already knew how to do the jobs mentioned.
Just baiting the forum?

Kinst_VonSterga

I guess if I reverse the tool, it can be used with the slide-hammer to pull the cup out too ... though I would lose the directional stability/control that pushing the cup through the guide/shaft and rubber-stop provides with each blow of the slide hammer. On the same note, I don't have to anchor the hub when trying to pull something out of it with equal force (without fabricating/buying something new to accommodate for pulling vs. pushing).

For the rear derailleur, it looks like I'm going to use a very large nail-punch (as the end is concave and has a slightly larger diameter than the end/diameter of the spindle/post) to create a domed-cap at each end of the aluminum rod (that runs through the ferrule). I will experiment first as my concern is that it may bend the rod throughout its length, potentially limiting its mobility as a pivot point. If it doesn't and mobility is intact and there is no "play" in the joints themselves, then it'll be a cheap solution ... otherwise I'll fabricate something simple tonight to press a dome-shape at the end of each spindle/post.

This whole thread is a process of thinking out loud, so I appreciate everyone's +/- contributions, as it definitely provided me the motivation to think through an alternate solution with what I have in-hand.

Cheers,

Kinst_VonSterga

LOL ... your only contribution to this thread is to insert yourself with inflammatory post/language. So you search for threads, see a little fire on it and try to add gasoline to it? ... too funny!

But to answer your provocative question, the answer is "no".

I had no idea/solution prior to posting my first question for any links/resources that may exist. Instructions showing how to remove the cups, press-in new cups, or mount the front/back plates to a N/R derailleur.

I still haven't figured out the 3rd part of my question (concerning the rear derailleur). When I reviewed the links provided on the cups, I realized that a much simpler solution could be found by fabricating it myself with the parts/materials that I have on hand. I even shared the pics of what I created ... despite folks challenging me w/authoritative conjecture and contempt.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=rootboy;12548157]

Kinst_VonSterga

Because my "hoop" took me 15 minutes to fabricate a simple tool with a combined cost of $2 dollars, to fix 3 hubsets ... and now my need is over ... including the need for a tool. Didn't think I would fabricate something when I started this thread, but it was fun, now the fall out from others is less pleasant to deal with, as we're entertaining egos and attitudes now.

How much does the tool you posted below cost? How long would it take to order it (if one doesn't existing locally), have it delivered or find an equivalent model in other stores/towns by calling or driving around town? $2 and 15 minutes worth of effort?

To be honest, it took me a fraction of the time to create something myself, fix my hubs ... then the amount of time it took to read/respond to posts like this. At least something else may benefit from all of the +/- contributions made to this post if they google for a solution for their old campy hubset.

Michael Angelo 

Alrighty then.......

Kinst_VonSterga

Okay, it looks like the spindle/pin that runs through the ferrule may not be the point where things pivot from, rather its the ferrule within the front/back plate of the parallel arms that pivots? So forming of a domed "stop" at the end seems to work fine. I have a thrashed N/R dérailleur I'm going to take apart and try this fix. If it works, then I'll tackle my '66/'67 beauty as it has wobbly pivot points ;-( though it may have something else wrong with it after I take it a apart to inspect it.

Cheers,

Pars 

Good job, and hope the repaired hub works for many years.

Are the derailleur part(s) you mention shown as 808/a in the catalog that Bianchigirl posted?

Kinst_VonSterga

Here's a picture of my test run on an old cr@p part + closeup shots of the ferrule, spindle and how it sits in the front/back plate.



Ferrule definitely is the pivoting/rotating piece (not the spindle) within the black-plate hole.



Looks like I need a slightly bigger nail/leather punch (to create the domed curvature @ both ends of each aluminum spindle).

Kinst_VonSterga

Those are very nice looking/high quality tools.
Thanks for the link!

LeicaLad 

'74 Lacquered Blue Gitane Super Olympic • '70 Flamboyant Yellow Gitane Super Corsa • '68 Lacquered Blue Gitane Super Corsa • '66 White Gitane Superb Elite Jacque Anquetil


I just wanna see photos of these bikes! I have a full set of the photos of the '70 Super Corsa you renovated for your wife on my desktop. It is truly stunning. I don't think I've ever seen the late 60s SC nor the Superb Elite model, let alone what I know you may well have done to spruce 'em up.

Have you posted photos of these on the GitaneUSA site that I've just not seen? (Do, please!)

Great thread for information. I have several dead hubs, but no NOS races. Sigh.

Cheers!

Road Fan

So windbaggery isn't a viable and essential element of a century training plan? I'm sunk!

cudak888 

It is, but only when training with the Road Forum.

-Kurt

Kinst_VonSterga

... and a familiar name, hi LeicaLad!

Three of the frames (Anquetil, Bobet and early S.C.) are with velocolour (as I type) and they should be done within the next month or two. A couple more (Peugeot PX10LE and Olympic) that are currently being assembled in advance of spring riding (which some of the hubs that I just serviced were for). I have a lot of cr@ppy "before shots" of most of them, just need some decent weather for taking hi-res after-restor. pics and will post the entire fleet "fully assembled" on a new thread at Bikeforums.

One of the Peugeots is posted to velospace https://velospace.org/node/15906 but they limit file size/resolution so I may start posting the megapixels elsewhere. The Gitane https://www.gitaneusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1583 and Peugeot that you see are pretty much representative restorations of the other bicycles that are work-in-process. The one-off Ti LWB was posted here https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12367237

Some other frames that I acquired were in great shape as-is, so I try not to mess w/the original paint/patina. I have to admit, the folks at GitaneUSA are a great group of guys (including your contribution!), sharing a wealth of bicycle knowledge and providing encouragement to those interested in restoring old Gitane bicycles (which are my favorite to ride ;-).

LeicaLad 

I opened this thread when I spotted your name. Nevermind the grief. We wrench because we play.

Fabulous bikes. The images just whet the appetite. When the megapixels go up, I'll be eager to pore over them. Nice to see the 60-63cm size frames, too. But is the mixte for the bike holder? :-)

I hope you don't have to wait as long for your finisher as you did for your wife's bike. Wasn't that like... forever?

I recently acquired a rare Hilton Wrigley, but it's still in England getting refinished. Hopefully, within a month or so, I'll have it to show off.

Keep posting!!!

rootboy 

[QUOTE=Kinst_VonSterga;12548509]LOL ... your only contribution to this thread is to insert yourself with inflammatory post/language. So you search for threads, see a little fire on it and try to add gasoline to it? ... too funny!

No, actually, what I saw was a person asking a question, ostensibly asking for help, and then when help was offered, essentially disagreeing with almost everyone that posted helpful posts. I just thought it may have been more helpful to post a "this is what I'm doing" thread.

Kinst_VonSterga

Mixte frame was built up for my daughter (she liked the style after seeing them in Paris during our last family vacation to France) and I was able to find a home for some of the vintage arabesque parts that I had. The joke is that its a French Fuji ;-) Fortunately/unfortunately, my family benefits from the spill-over of my cycling addiction.

That was a painful wait, but it wasn't entirely the painter's fault (more so the company that he subcontracted out the chroming work to, as they were sabotaging his schedule). If a respray is in order, then I usually ask to replace the chrome w/new triple/show chrome.

This thread is pretty much spent, but if you can post pics of your Hilton Wrigley in a new thread (when its returned to you), that was be awesome as Wrigley's are one of the most beautifully built machines out there (IMHO). I'm still remembering their ornate lugwork and impeccable brazing and am very happy that you were able to acquire such a vintage masterpiece!

LeicaLad 

Agreed.

In the meantime, many thanks. I agree about the Wrigley frames – especially the International. The frame I've acquired is a Connoisseur, which is one step down from the International, but still really lovely with very ornate lugs.

(For those who don't know these bikes: https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk...-builders.html )

The article is written by Norris Lockley, who learned to build frames from Hilton Wrigley. I had my frame sent to him for inspection and refinishing. Norris not only has my frame, but about 5 more Wrigley frames – and he's been seeking out more that he knows remain hidden in the hills of Yorkshire. We intend to have a range of beauties to show off in due course. This has been months in progress, but has been a truly fun project.

Not to worry, it'll have it's own thread when the day comes.

All the best to you. Keep posting.