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robatsu 08-05-11 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 13037678)
I've already asked my wife about buying something to bike with a child... a bit premature, but it's something I am excited about. I think i'm leaning towards a trailer but I haven't really weighed the pros and cons just yet.

Right when my son was born, one of my sisters, the one who thinks nothing of going off on transcontinental, solo, self supported rides, sent me a trailer. It sat in the box in my basement for a year or two, I had about as much regard for the concept as for a minivan. Finally, after running out of diplomatic evasions to my sister's periodic queries about how I liked the trailer, I put it together, loaded up my kid, and absolutely adored the concept from day one.

It also evened up the score a little between my wife and me on rides, further improving the harmony in our marriage.

I'm sure opinions vary, but mine is unabashedly positive. You'd be surprised at how little drag these add on flat ground, you actually get a little bit of a flywheel effect going over gentle speed humps and stuff, kinda neat. Plus, drivers see the trailer and become insanely polite generally. And you can put all sorts of extra stuff in it, but the bike handling is much less affected than by loading on bike, the list just goes on.

My son is too big for it now, but I still use it for shopping. And people don't know there isn't a toddler in it, so they still cut you a wide berth.




Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 13037678)
I admit, I think cream colored tires look nice BUT they have caught on to a point that I don't want to like them.

Ditto that. I was just joking, I hope...

RobbieTunes 08-05-11 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by robatsu (Post 13037613)
I'm now wondering how it will look with some nice cream colored 650B's.

I get it.

robatsu 08-05-11 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 13037784)
I get it.

But in all seriousness, I think there are few bikes standing in more need of white saddle and bar wrap.

RobbieTunes 08-05-11 04:10 AM

Timeline is familiar to me....being 40 miles from the main CL venue.

The drive is always a bit apprehansive, especially at night.
My wife doesn't understand the adventure of "tentative."

mkeller234 08-05-11 04:24 AM

Oops, I missed that the tire comment was a joke. I didn't figure that you would like cream tires either.

Well, I trust your endorsement of a trailer and you hit on a lot of the notes that I considered. I don't want to take your thread further OT than I already have, sorry about that.

Turgul, that is impressive!

robatsu 08-05-11 05:01 AM

This bike came w/full Shimano 105 group. Might be fun to update it to a full modern 105 group, kind of keep it in the spirit of things. But I have to finish other projects first. This bike also sort of has a bit of nostalgia for me, a 1985 Trek 660 was my main ride for most of the second half of the 80's, the frame on the 87 560 is same tubeset and geometry seems identical except for .4 inch greater fork offset.

Amesja 08-05-11 05:40 AM

Nobody out there is owed a "deal." If one want to pay for the privilege of winning a product on CL that one really wants then go ahead and DO it. It's a free world. I don't think the seller is going to complain. Green cashew money greases the wheels.

Everything has a price and with all things prices are negotiable.

Great story Robatsu.

norskagent 08-05-11 06:10 AM

On the craigslist level, it's not the buyer's responsibility to ensure that the seller follows certain guidelines, hence, "free market".

KonAaron Snake 08-05-11 06:16 AM

Loved the story telling...I'm sure we can all relate and I know I've gone through the exact same dialogue numerous times.

khatfull 08-05-11 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by tugrul (Post 13037522)
1987 Trek 560?

"Welcome to Name That Bike, the show where we show you a nondescript photo of a vintage road bike and you guess the brand, model, and year. Our returning champion, tugurl..."

Fred Smedley 08-05-11 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by robatsu (Post 13037613)
I'm now wondering how it will look with some nice cream colored 650B's.

As long as you add SunTour bar-cons , you are OK.

triathloner 08-05-11 06:34 AM

When I sell on craigslist, I figure first one that says he will drive over gets it unless they are begging to come the next day, If they really want it and I'm available to show them the bike they should come right over. I usually get a time from them and tell them that if they don't show it's back on the market within an hour. #1 should have made arrangements to look at it that night.

norskagent 08-05-11 06:37 AM

thread drift!
what is this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/jvpro/007-8.jpg

Old Fat Guy 08-05-11 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by norskagent (Post 13038081)

Vitus?

robatsu 08-05-11 06:48 AM

So how 'bout that modern Shimano 105 idea?

Coop500 08-05-11 06:54 AM

Nice look Trek! I am quickly becoming an '80's Trek fan.

Amesja 08-05-11 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by triathloner (Post 13038075)
When I sell on craigslist, I figure first one that says he will drive over gets it unless they are begging to come the next day, If they really want it and I'm available to show them the bike they should come right over. I usually get a time from them and tell them that if they don't show it's back on the market within an hour. #1 should have made arrangements to look at it that night.

I won't hold a bike for anyone except for the time when they leave their house until they get to my place. I promise not to sell a bike while they are on the road to my place to look at a bike. But I can't promise there won't be another guy when he gets here who might be biding against him.

Cash is king, The buyer who gets here first with cash s/he is willing to lay on the table gets preference every time. It's my bike to sell however I wish using whatever rules I think are fair. I feel first-come first serve is fair and I don't lead anyone on -just give them the whole truth about how things work.

Waiting around for people who may or may not ever show up "tomorrow" or maybe the next day is just wasting my time IMHO. But if someone else wants to sell their bike another way or play by different "gentleman rules" that's fine with me too. It's your bike until you sell it and it's a Free Market out there. As long as someone doesn't tell me how I must deal on my bikes I'm fine however they want to do it with their own sales -even if I laugh, giggle, or raise my eyebrows about it. It's mostly not my business other than I'm constantly observing how other people do things.

There is always a chance of finding a better way that makes my life easier & better.

norskagent 08-05-11 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy (Post 13038087)
Vitus?

you are correct sir, vitus 992.

ericbaker 08-05-11 07:12 AM

fun little read there, and a good score,

lots of cloudy parades here.

you want it go get it. no time like the present

Ex Pres 08-05-11 07:36 AM

I'm on the OP's purchase technique. The '82 PXN10 I should finish up tonight was the same story. From a blurry pic in a non-descript "Peugeot for sale $75" CL ad I was pretty sure it was a PX10. The seller responded and said there was a guy in front of me that was coming over later in the afternoon and he had promised the seller $50 sight unseen. I quickly sent an email back promising him over his asking price sight unseen. Got my response, got in the car. Bought it that morning.

RobbieTunes 08-05-11 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by robatsu (Post 13038125)
So how 'bout that modern Shimano 105 idea?

drrobwave has had success converting his 7-sp 105 freehub to 8/9/10 and going STI. The bike is still full 105 and runs great.

I've simply swapped wheels to convert 2x6 105 to 2x9 105, changed the crankset to 9-sp 105 and added Tiagra STI's.

I'd love to have those older polished 105 hubs on a modern 8/9/10 ride, but I've not tried that yet.

tugrul 08-05-11 08:42 AM

Haha, you guys crack me up! Thanks :)


Originally Posted by robatsu (Post 13037669)
Decals match 87, not 88 model. Haven't deciphered serial number, but otherwise looks dead match for 87. Yay, tugrul!

It was also True Temper in 1988.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 08-05-11 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by [B
robatsu][/B]
I'm now wondering how it will look with some nice cream colored 650B's.


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 13037678)

I admit, I think cream colored tires look nice BUT they have caught on to a point that I don't want to like them.

Good thing you can get black and red tread as well. ;)

ColonelJLloyd 08-05-11 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by robatsu (Post 13038125)
So how 'bout that modern Shimano 105 idea?

I like that idea a lot. Certain advantages are gained and, as you said, the overall theme is continued.

Although it was a joke, it's worth noting that there are no creme/white 650B tires that will fit that frame.

Have you seen southpawboston's '87 560? It's nice.

tugrul 08-05-11 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 13038993)
Have you seen southpawboston's '87 560? It's nice.

1988 :p

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/...93796375_b.jpg


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