Cableless brake system
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Cableless brake system
Talk about going around the block to get across the street. Why do people feel it nessecary to re-invent the wheel?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...l-systems.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...l-systems.html
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Psh... had that decades ago. Coaster Brakes = Wireless brakes.
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Cableless brake system
The Skid, fixie style
The Fred Flinstone, DL-1 in the rain
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Need an I-phone app so I don't even have to ride the bike.
No thanks, I'm not trusting electronics to stop my bike. I can see it now "Golly it seems the batteries in my brakes have gone dead and I'm going 35mph down a hill!!"
No thanks, I'm not trusting electronics to stop my bike. I can see it now "Golly it seems the batteries in my brakes have gone dead and I'm going 35mph down a hill!!"
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I take it this is an advertisement for Dynamo hubs.
That's Di2 is so silly. Now you gotta carry spare batteries lest you jun out of juice and end up with the world's most expensive single speed.
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btw, dig the One-Piece crank on that bike
That's Di2 is so silly. Now you gotta carry spare batteries lest you jun out of juice and end up with the world's most expensive single speed.
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btw, dig the One-Piece crank on that bike
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Mind you there is nothing wrong with cable operated or hydraulic brakes, both technologies are reliable and work well. An area that could use some improvement with electronics is shifting, in that with modern precise shifting mechanisms, cables can easily get far enough out of adjustment that shifting no longer works. One possible electronic solution would be a box that sits at the junction of the down tube and seat tube, this unit is powered by a generator hub, the unit then sends power to the shifter which becomes a simple 3 pole switch, when the switch is moved to the shift-up position, a small stepper motor turns a preset amount, and pulls or releases a cable to the derailleur, since the cable is only about 1m long, it would better stay in adjustment. Adjustments would be made not to the cable, but via a dial on the control unit.
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Given the stupid responses to wireless brakes and Di2 in the 41, posting it here is just asking for trouble! ;-)
And for clarification, Di2 batteries last a long long time. It's not like you'd have to recharge it every other ride. Also I would imagine if the battery goes dead on a brake system, you would first get a warning of the battery dying, then they would engage instead of leaving you hanging.
And for clarification, Di2 batteries last a long long time. It's not like you'd have to recharge it every other ride. Also I would imagine if the battery goes dead on a brake system, you would first get a warning of the battery dying, then they would engage instead of leaving you hanging.
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Alright I'm out haha, there's no winning against the C&V crowd when it comes to new tech. There would obviously be a real safety system connected to it, if it actually was to be a consumer product, which it won't.
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Mind you there is nothing wrong with cable operated or hydraulic brakes, both technologies are reliable and work well. An area that could use some improvement with electronics is shifting, in that with modern precise shifting mechanisms, cables can easily get far enough out of adjustment that shifting no longer works. One possible electronic solution would be a box that sits at the junction of the down tube and seat tube, this unit is powered by a generator hub, the unit then sends power to the shifter which becomes a simple 3 pole switch, when the switch is moved to the shift-up position, a small stepper motor turns a preset amount, and pulls or releases a cable to the derailleur, since the cable is only about 1m long, it would better stay in adjustment. Adjustments would be made not to the cable, but via a dial on the control unit.
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Yeah!!!!!!!!!!
Why would anyone want to ride something beyond the Boneshaker. Good thing I have my trusty Underwood to tap out this response, attach it to Semour my trusted carrier pigeon who gets to a dude on the intrawebz to post on this forum. Yeah. R&D sucks.
Why would anyone want to ride something beyond the Boneshaker. Good thing I have my trusty Underwood to tap out this response, attach it to Semour my trusted carrier pigeon who gets to a dude on the intrawebz to post on this forum. Yeah. R&D sucks.
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How much it weights?
How long untill u have to re charge batteries?
It stops working in a rainy day??
Morons have accidents with any type of brake system, what makes you think this will stop the problem??
Well, shimano sure have this already for a few years already.
How long untill u have to re charge batteries?
It stops working in a rainy day??
Morons have accidents with any type of brake system, what makes you think this will stop the problem??
Well, shimano sure have this already for a few years already.
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... An area that could use some improvement with electronics is shifting, in that with modern precise shifting mechanisms, cables can easily get far enough out of adjustment that shifting no longer works. One possible electronic solution would be a box that sits at the junction of the down tube and seat tube, this unit is powered by a generator hub, the unit then sends power to the shifter which becomes a simple 3 pole switch, when the switch is moved to the shift-up position, a small stepper motor turns a preset amount, and pulls or releases a cable to the derailleur, since the cable is only about 1m long, it would better stay in adjustment. Adjustments would be made not to the cable, but via a dial on the control unit.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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I worked at TRW when they were developing electric power steering, which has since become somewhat commonplace. The major debate centered on whether to retain a rigid mechanical connection as a backup. (It was retained.)
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069





