These were really nice pads that I used for years; finned mount to dissipate heat, curved pad for more rim contact.

Found a complete set that's been in my closet since the early 1980's. Pretty sure I was using them by 1982. Here's a scan of the instruction insert.

On Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/26533829@N00/7017800605/

nice to see this (again) for posterity. The last set I sold had this card (with the pads in a stapled-on baggie). I sold them rather than use them because I believe that the glued-on pads can't be trusted to stay glued on to that fine-looking finned heat-sink. Maybe I'm duped but I think they suitable for "display only"...if you used them "for years" with no problems then good on ya, mate!

I dont think they were glued. I remember mine being somewhat dovetailed and pinned as well.

Not sure about the entire run of product, but at least the early ones were glued. They may have improved the design, later.
https://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/30042

That " DO NOT TRY IT!" note about not trying to do your own installation or adjustments on the brake pads yourself is just......stupid.... What's the point of providing the instruction sheet for the brake pads then??
I'm sure putting that notice on the instructions was driven by their company lawyers, but it just reinforces the non-self reliance and responsibilty for ourselves and our actions. I didn't think it was that bad already back then but I guess it was......

BTW, are the finned Mathauser brakes holders/pads hard to find and expensive these days? I might consider using them on my early 70's bike project in place of the overpriced OEM pads that I need to find for the Campy NR calipers on bike, which are so crazy expensive out there if you find them.

Chombi

The last NOS, bagged set I had sold for $132 (IIRC). Previous to that, I sold a well-used set for $32. One of the local shops tried to charge me $10 for a single NOS pad recently.

The prices these things bring are ridiculous.

-Kurt

just for spit & grins, here's a little tidbit form Jobst Brandt's blog, where he mentions that the finned "heat sink" pad bodies actually do nothing practical:

"Talking to the KoolStop people at the annual bicycle trade show, I
learned that it is a KoolStop formulation and that they make pads for
most of the smaller brand brakes, including Matthauser. You might
recall that the Matthauser brake pads had cooling fins on the rear.
This was as scientifically incorrect as the compound. Effectively no
heat passes through the brake pad that is an insulator. The heat must
go into the rim to be dissipated."

As with all things Brandt and Controversial: YRMV. (but what he says here makes sense to me)

This set definitely looks glued. Never had a problem over many loaded touring miles.

Interesting point about the heat not passing through to the fins. I'll have to try touching the base at the bottom of a long hill.

For the archives - some photos of this pair of NOS pads, as well as the pair that's still sitting on my wife's bike.

It's in a Flickr set at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/2653382...th/6871895084/

I thought the "DO NOT try this at home" warning amusing too. Never had a set of the finned ones ...the "heat sink" theory, I agree, sounds like hokum.... but I do still have an old set of the Matthauser Record replacement pads. Never used them. I wonder if they're still good?

The two piece conical washer thing was a clever idea.

$132?! Yikes! That's a lot of money!.......but still cheaper than the NR pad/holders (with the wheel guides) at ebay right now that will cost something like a crazy $220 for a set of four! Having C&V Campy stuff on a bike sure makes it harder to finish a resto project.
Maybe I'll check my LBS to see if they have some bouncing around in their old parts drawers....

Chombi

On the contrary; it's easier to find old Campagnolo kicking about than small makes.

-Kurt

But do they ever sell for reasonable prices?? That's the killer....

Chombi

Helps to have a lot of local shops.

-Kurt

you guys know that they are still being made??

https://www.yokozunausa.com/brakepadsshoes.html

Ah but, they don't have the cool aluminum fins anymore.

Yah!,....I guess we can blame it on Jobst Brandt,........The wisenheimer!

Chombi

I have four of the finned shoes on my old McLean. Interestingly, the nuts use a 15mm wrench! It's crazy that they command such a high price now. But they have been working well for me all these years.

I remember when Jobst wrote that thing about the cooling fins. He's right: I have observed that rims heat up, not brake shoes.

Unless, of course you're the seller

This pair sold for $172.51; I think it was the custom paint-job I did on them:



DD

Wow!, so khewl with those fins!........Maybe if you drilled the fins with your pin drills you could have gotten double the money!


Chombi

Dude! Those are great!
What are those colors? It looks like a flag, but what country?

Take a closer look, they do have fins. Oh well most of them do.....

Used the Matt-Pads on our tandem a few decades ago.
Put 57,000 miles on them; then sold the bike with the Matt-pads still working, but a bit worn!
Pedal on!
Rudy anbd Kay/zonatandem

FWIW, I had a set on my old Bob Jackson, running them on Mafac Copmpetitions and sew-up wheels. I went on a killer century in Santa Barbara many years ago that included a run down Gilbralter Rd., which goes from Camino Cielo on the top of the ridge to close to the Santa Barbara flatlands. It is steep and curvy, and you better have some clue about what you are doing. Either that or not care too much about your personal well-being. About half way down, I looked down at my front wheel. The heat from braking had melted the glue and the tire had rolled about 90 degrees so that I was riding on the sidewall. When I managed to get stopped, the rims were burn-my-fingers hot, and it took a while for them cool down enough so I could reposition the tires. (It took me a little longer to get up the balls to resume heading down the road.) The brake pads and holders? Cool as the other side of the pillow.

No this doesn't prove anything and the story is worth exactly what you paid for it. but it consistent with Jobst Brandt's position.

Those are the Rainbow Jersey World Champion colors that winners of the - wait for it - World Championships every year get to wear for the next year.

Now that's more like it - a set that needs no excuse to command that type of a price. Brilliant work as always, Jeff.

-Kurt

Mine were definitely different. The aluminum holder was an extrusion with a C channel on the pad side and fins on the other. The pads simply slid in and were pinned down through the top on each end. Instead of conical washers they had tapered shims to angle the shoes. These were purchased about 1984 and installed on Gran Compe brakes. I wonder if they were the real thing or Nashbar knockoffs.