Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Suggestions on Upgrading Ironman Groupset?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Suggestions on Upgrading Ironman Groupset?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-12 | 08:52 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: SGV, SoCal

Bikes: Centurion Fixed Gear, 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert

Suggestions on Upgrading Ironman Groupset?

I currently have a Centurion Ironman which (still) needs a tune up. The wheels aren't true. I was thinking the cables must be replaced because of the color of the cable (oxidized?) and some fraying at the ends. Then, that got me thinking of the chain wear. I don't have a chain tool, but I was wondering if I would need a new chain (not sure on what kind, but I'm aware that there are plenty of types). I figure since if I do need to replace those two, I might as well replace the rear threaded freewheel and possibly my chainset and rear derailleur. I pretty much might as well upgrade my whole groupset. Any suggestions? I don't have a brick load of change laying around, but if the upgrade is worth it, I'm sure I can sacrifice some lunches and evenings.

Off topic, but here's what's happening so far regarding my Ironman. My Shimano PD-1050 pedals had old plastic toe clips, and both of them cracked today. I'm lucky to have MKS-GR9's on my fixed gear. I swapped them out. I'll be receiving Shimano PD-m540's as a birthday gift. I received a pair of Pearl Izumi cycling shoes that are barely used (and happen to fit me) from my cousin J, and will be receiving some cycling clothes for my birthday. I'm just really excited to work on my first real road bike.


Last edited by JDMKidBill; 04-09-12 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Pics
JDMKidBill is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:12 PM
  #2  
eippo1's Avatar
I like beans
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,336
Likes: 1
From: Meffa, MA

Bikes: Tarmac Pro, Bianchi Zurigo, Raleigh Gran Sport, Fuji Del Rey, Ironman Centurion

What about picking up an "old" lol shimano 105 6500 or Ultegra 6600 used from eBay or sim?
eippo1 is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:21 PM
  #3  
Bianchigirll's Avatar
Bianchi Goddess
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,962
Likes: 4,229
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Measure the chain and see if it is stretched. Use a tape and from one pin to another should be 12". If it isn't stretched too much the FW should be fine. I would maybe replace the brake pads they are likely to be worn and dried out.

Unless something is broken I see no reason to start upgrading.
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:23 PM
  #4  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: SGV, SoCal

Bikes: Centurion Fixed Gear, 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert

Originally Posted by eippo1
What about picking up an "old" lol shimano 105 6500 or Ultegra 6600 used from eBay or sim?
Not sure... I kind of feel like I don't want to buy older parts when I can put modern parts on my Ironman. When I bought the bike, the owner gave me another freewheel- a Dura-Ace MF-7400. I like the fact of having the bigger gears for those steep hills, but I don't think I'm approaching hills correctly (if I'm in the lowest gear, it's easy to lose momentum). I currently have a MF-6208 (600EX) installed.

JDMKidBill is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:34 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: SGV, SoCal

Bikes: Centurion Fixed Gear, 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert

Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Measure the chain and see if it is stretched. Use a tape and from one pin to another should be 12". If it isn't stretched too much the FW should be fine. I would maybe replace the brake pads they are likely to be worn and dried out.

Unless something is broken I see no reason to start upgrading.
The brake pads seem fine. I don't see any cracking. I took a ruler and placed it so that one pin lines up at 0 inches. At the 12" side, it is ~1mm before the pin.
JDMKidBill is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:54 PM
  #6  
Arrowana's Avatar
Bike Sorceress
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 460
From: MPLS

Bikes: Yes

On my Ironman, I've got mostly stock parts, but switched out the wheelset for one with a 9-speed cassette (and naturally a new chain), just switched to Suntour Barcons, plus new tires, saddle and bar tape. It all works great together. Replacing some parts doesn't necessarily mean you have to replace everything else, especially if you go with friction shifting.
Arrowana is offline  
Reply
Old 04-09-12 | 09:59 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: SGV, SoCal

Bikes: Centurion Fixed Gear, 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert

Originally Posted by Arrowana
On my Ironman, I've got mostly stock parts, but switched out the wheelset for one with a 9-speed cassette (and naturally a new chain), just switched to Suntour Barcons, plus new tires, saddle and bar tape. It all works great together. Replacing some parts doesn't necessarily mean you have to replace everything else, especially if you go with friction shifting.
I'm uncertain if I'm happy with 6 speeds or if I'm not. My tires are new Bontragers, and the bar tape appeared to be recently installed. I haven't experienced much saddles, so I can't really say about my Schwin saddle. That said, I go prefer the SIS shifting. I'm not saying I will replace everything all at once, but I would like to know my options and upgrade at my own pace.

On another note, my gear and brake cables are oxidized and seem old and slightly frayed at the ends, but are operational. When would I really need to replace them?
JDMKidBill is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
maartendc
Classic & Vintage
14
06-14-16 11:19 PM
RandolphCarter
Classic & Vintage
12
04-22-14 05:03 AM
JDMKidBill
Classic & Vintage
19
03-30-12 06:49 PM
jgb333
Classic & Vintage
16
02-16-12 01:10 PM
bsteckline
Classic & Vintage
6
07-13-10 11:11 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.