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Old 10-09-13, 09:02 AM
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Started umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum again. Read it 15 years ago.
Also I'm reading Lonely Planet's guide to Japan. Tomorrow I'm going for 3 weeks to Japan. I hope that Foucault's Pendulum will last me those 3 weeks.
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Great read if you are into History, "The Guns at Last Light", the story of the Allied landing in Normandy to the fall of Berlin...HEAVY in deep research, well footnoted.
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Been rediscovering Robert Frost as of late.
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There are some great quotes in both Apocalypse Now and Heart of Darkness that are shared.
Kurtz-You accuse me of unsound method?
Marlowe-I don't see any method,at all.
Very much the same in the movie.

It was also ironic that Apocalypse Now was filmed in the Phillipines. When I took my father to see it,
he turned to me and said-"I was there, in the war. "
I said-"In the Phillipines?"
He said-"No, right there. At that spot on the river. "
That jungle is full of ghosts.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Apocalypse Now was basically Heart of Darkness. When I said so in an essay in college (we were to watch the movie and describe it as an anti-war masterpiece), and came at it from a the perspective of a combat infantryman, my professor quite angrily threw all her anti-war leftist credentials at me, but I ducked and parried. Somehow, I found an interview with Brando in which he came at it much the same way, and she believed him, so she gave me an A.

To this day, I doubt she's even read Heart of Darkness. It may contain insights into the human condition that she prefers to avoid knowing. Then again, she was a lot smarter than I thought, so maybe she was just glad to have someone thinking outside the pre-programmed box. I imagine reading 100 essays that all say whatever the students think you want is fairly mind-numbing.

I'm trying to finish Robert Kennedy And His Times, but it's about twice as long as I want it to be.
If y'all like dark humor and anti-war sentiment the first two novels by Celine are a must read. My favorite novel of them all is "Death on the Installment Plan" and his anti-war anti-hero is in his first: "Journey to the End of the Night".

And I'll offer up the same disclaimer as Vonnegut or any of the other many writers whom he influenced might. I don't subscribe to his Vichy politics or antisemitism and he does the reader the favor of leaving it out of his novels.

Speaking of writers that Celine influenced my coworker wants me to get around to reading "Air Conditioned Nightmare" by Henry Miller and I might someday since I've never yet read Miller. I have a stack of books I'm supposed to get around to reading someday already and would like to also include Joseph Heller among them. Most people who read the writers influenced by Celine have never read him but I'm the opposite so far since I've read very little fiction since in my teens & 20s other than him.

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I last read A Clockwork Orange on my bike trip in WA. and OR. in 1972. I recently read it again and didn't know there was a last chapter that both Kubrick in his movie, and the U.S. edition of the book that I had read, had left out. I was dumfounded. Couldn't quite believe it. With apologies to Burgess, I have to admit I liked the book better without it. In the end, little Alex sees redemption, and dreams of marriage.
I'm afraid I like the last line in the 70's book and the movie too much, as well as the sentiment expressed therein.
One of the best movie endings, and movie, ever, ....imo.
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Burgess is yet another one who was influenced by Celine that I haven't read yet. I really got into "Death on the Installment Plan" after having managed downtown hotels in San Diego in my relative youth and definitely recognized some of his ne'r-do-well characters. I didn't really realize the reach of his influence when I first read him until the internet reached me and I did some research on him.
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i would rate this as a good book, it's a tad difficult read but it's a good thing i'm smrt
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
E-reader devices are to books what Kool aid is to fine wine.
I totally agree! I own a few books that I purchased new for less than $100 (all within the last 15 years) and now many of them are now worth several thousand dollars. Most are first editions and are now out-of-print. Something tells me that if I bought a Kindle today, it's probably not going to increase in value (ever) , nor will the digital downloads saved to it.

I can't really put my finger on it, but I like having the printed "hard copy" in my hands. I much prefer buying a Sunday edition of the New York Times as opposed to going to their website to read it.
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Originally Posted by Superconductor
I can't really put my finger on it, but I like having the printed "hard copy" in my hands.
I hate to be contrary, but the reason you like books is precisely because you can put your finger on it.
But then, a book doesn't have a touch screen so maybe that doesn't count.
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Every Lee Child novel starring Jack Reacher is outstanding.
There's about 18 of them and, although you don't have to, you might as well read them in order:

https://marciag.squidoo.com/jack-reacher-books-in-order
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Originally Posted by Superconductor
I can't really put my finger on it, but I like having the printed "hard copy" in my hands. I much prefer buying a Sunday edition of the New York Times as opposed to going to their website to read it.
Books are a Classic and Vintage thing. I could maybe see using an E-reader on a trip, say,
but that's about it. I like books too much.

Can you imagine a photography book on a Kindle? Phoo......
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Just remembered a 3-day read: Empire of the Summer Moon about the dominance of the Comanche, and why, over both the Spaniards moving north and the Europeans moving west. Stone Age vs. budding Industrial Age. A good companion to Season of the Yellow Leaf, which was just as bleak, but very informative.

I've never read a book on any kind of electronic device, and don't intend to. I've got some collections that are pretty cool just in the binding and the print, etc.

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The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference by Malcolm Gladwell

Helps one to understand the human social world.
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If you are into WW2 Europe history, then I recommend the following:

The Liberator by Alex Kershaw
The Rock of Anzio by Flint Whitlock

Both center on the 45th Infantry division and its fight from Sicily to Central Europe

Patton said the 45th was “one of the finest, if not the finest infantry division in this history of modern warfare.”

And a lot of people have never heard of them.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Just remembered a 3-day read: Season of the Summer Moon about the dominance of the Comanche, and why, over both the Spaniards moving north and the Europeans moving west. Stone Age vs. budding Industrial Age. A good companion to Season of the Yellow Leaf, which was just as bleak, but very informative.

I've never read a book on any kind of electronic device, and don't intend to. I've got some collections that are pretty cool just in the binding and the print, etc.
T.R. Fehrenbach's "Lone Star: A History of Texas and the Texans" gives a pretty good, if relatively brief, coverage of the Native Americans in that region going back 40,000 years as well as some interesting history of the Scottish borderer influence throughout both Appalachia and Texas in particular. He goes back to Cromwell's time with that focus.

And I don't even own a cell phone yet much less some electronic reading device.
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Military history readers might like Jules Roy's The Battle of Dienbienphu about the beginning of the end of the French colonial empire in Indochina by the Vietminh forces of Nguyen Giap.

It's a better read than Bernard Fall's book: "Hell in a Very Small Place", imo. Although that wasn't a bad book nor was his "Street Without Joy". All these books are good background to our experience there.
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We seem to have a lot of "heavy" readers in this group.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
We seem to have a lot of "heavy" readers in this group.
Including Mapleleafs-13. If Dr. Seuss aint heavy, I don't know what is.
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I've kind of wanted this book for years. Off and on. Finally got a copy. Some of you may have it. Pretty good. Some good color pics of on topic bikes and good information on components and frames. Not too in-depth, but OK. Sorry for the lousy pics. "High Tech" in the early 80's.









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Originally Posted by RubberLegs
Great read if you are into History, "The Guns at Last Light", the story of the Allied landing in Normandy to the fall of Berlin...HEAVY in deep research, well footnoted.
I've been waiting for that one...
The first two are terrific.
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Originally Posted by RubberLegs
Great read if you are into History, "The Guns at Last Light", the story of the Allied landing in Normandy to the fall of Berlin...HEAVY in deep research, well footnoted.
Amazon's "you'll also like" keeps shoving that under my nose, maybe I'll grab a copy.

Just finished "Star of Africa" about pilot Hans Marseille. Literally could not put the book down; wild story about a wild guy.
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Just finished "Star of Africa" about pilot Hans Marseille. Literally could not put the book down; wild story about a wild guy.
The "Playboy" of the Luftwaffe. I'll definitely be reading that.
I enjoy reading about these guys. And many of them were fairly vehemently anti Nazi. As much as they could get away with, anyway. I recently acquired a copy of Luftwaffe Eagle, by Walter Schuck, while doing research on the Me 262. Another well written book.
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Originally Posted by RubberLegs
Great read if you are into History, "The Guns at Last Light", the story of the Allied landing in Normandy to the fall of Berlin...HEAVY in deep research, well footnoted.
I'm reading it right now and you're right; it's a great read!
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Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson.

Rough-shod, fast paced and not necissarily very truthful but intensely stimulating exercise in duality, Sumerians and dystopia. My favourite things!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash

Currently reading the latest Murakami, but found it less to my tastes than his previous books. Still a lot of fun.
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