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Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing your bike. The serial number seems to indicate a birth date close to 1960. An interesting period that spawned beautiful bikes that we don't see very often. In those days the market for high end racing and touring bikes was limited to professionals and very serious (and wealthy, I might add) amateurs.
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Welcome [MENTION=374135]dirtworks[/MENTION]! I wish you could, too! There is a ten post minimum, I'm afraid. Apparently it's an anti-spam measure that keeps the number of unwanted posts to an acceptable level, and the mods from flipping. I'm sure you can find a few interesting threads that might be improved by a comment or two. 
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing your bike. The serial number seems to indicate a birth date close to 1960. An interesting period that spawned beautiful bikes that we don't see very often. In those days the market for high end racing and touring bikes was limited to professionals and very serious (and wealthy, I might add) amateurs.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing your bike. The serial number seems to indicate a birth date close to 1960. An interesting period that spawned beautiful bikes that we don't see very often. In those days the market for high end racing and touring bikes was limited to professionals and very serious (and wealthy, I might add) amateurs.
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I think I have about 5 posts in different areas now, as soon as it allows pics I will show you! The frame is a grey color with red and blue pinstripes around the lugs.. I would love to know more about the frame and its origins.. also, i have a wheel set with RIH branded hubs (logo in script) stamped on 3 peice style hubs.. I cant find any info on these anyplace and would love input from other collectors!
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hi.
i have an RIH frame with serial 7057. i purchased it on ebay a few years ago. the original light blue paint was covered with either rattle can or house paint! i only decided to take pictures post paint removal process. the frame is now bare and will be more or less restored, though since i have no idea what color scheme it originally had, i may just do it custom. it is sadly too small for me (55cm).
it has long campagnolo rear dropouts w/ hanger. 2 top tube cable guides, and two stops before the BB. other than that no other braze ons.
great resource btw!




i have an RIH frame with serial 7057. i purchased it on ebay a few years ago. the original light blue paint was covered with either rattle can or house paint! i only decided to take pictures post paint removal process. the frame is now bare and will be more or less restored, though since i have no idea what color scheme it originally had, i may just do it custom. it is sadly too small for me (55cm).
it has long campagnolo rear dropouts w/ hanger. 2 top tube cable guides, and two stops before the BB. other than that no other braze ons.
great resource btw!
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Thanks for the pictures! 
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
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Thanks for the pictures! 
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
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Thanks for the picture of the hub. My first instinct says to look toward Austria, where there's also a RIH Radsport (unrelated), which might have had these made / branded.
Perhaps [MENTION=333224]juvela[/MENTION] can tell us who made this hub? Italians, I suspect.
Perhaps [MENTION=333224]juvela[/MENTION] can tell us who made this hub? Italians, I suspect.
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Thanks for the pictures! 
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
Well, it is definitely a RIH from the Westerstraat in Amsterdam. And ca 1960 seems plausible as well. What you have is probably one of the best bikes one could buy at the time. In those days even the Soviets bought them for their best 'state amateurs'. Here is a list of the 63 World and Olympic champions that rode a RIH.
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Thanks for your comments, when i saw the frame for sale I felt like it was something special.. it's been sitting in my shop for the past 15 years, cant wait to get it back on the road doing what it was made to do! Im starting to realize how rare these early RIH frames are..
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RIH info needed - what do I have?

I have had this bike for about 17 years now, but know little about how it fits in the RIH history.. please let me know what I have here if possible.. thanks for the time and info!





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Why, that is a RIH Mistral. 
These were made by Cové in Venlo as part of a franchising deal with RIH, after the previous deal with Fongers went south when Fongers was taken over by Batavus (that's the management summary of the management summary
).
These Cové RIH bikes are quite nice (there was a "Luxe" and an "Elan" as well), but their popularity (and subsequently their value) suffers from not being "real Amsterdam RIH's".
Bit of a shame, IMO, as they are nice bikes in their own right.

These were made by Cové in Venlo as part of a franchising deal with RIH, after the previous deal with Fongers went south when Fongers was taken over by Batavus (that's the management summary of the management summary
).These Cové RIH bikes are quite nice (there was a "Luxe" and an "Elan" as well), but their popularity (and subsequently their value) suffers from not being "real Amsterdam RIH's".
Bit of a shame, IMO, as they are nice bikes in their own right.
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Why, that is a RIH Mistral. 
These were made by Cové in Venlo as part of a franchising deal with RIH, after the previous deal with Fongers went south when Fongers was taken over by Batavus (that's the management summary of the management summary
).
These Cové RIH bikes are quite nice (there was a "Luxe" and an "Elan" as well), but their popularity (and subsequently their value) suffers from not being "real Amsterdam RIH's".
Bit of a shame, IMO, as they are nice bikes in their own right.

These were made by Cové in Venlo as part of a franchising deal with RIH, after the previous deal with Fongers went south when Fongers was taken over by Batavus (that's the management summary of the management summary
).These Cové RIH bikes are quite nice (there was a "Luxe" and an "Elan" as well), but their popularity (and subsequently their value) suffers from not being "real Amsterdam RIH's".
Bit of a shame, IMO, as they are nice bikes in their own right.
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BTW, if there are any lurkers out there with Cové RIH's, please post them. I for one, would like to learn more about them.
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291T rih 1969
Greetings from Johannesburg South Africa. I bought this Fongers built RIH earlier this week and await some details as to its origins in South Africa. The serial number is 291T. Going by the Fongers site and start of this thread I assume the year to be 1969 model from Groningen.
Questions:
Thank you for a great thread, really informative
Steve









Questions:
- There is no tube decal, can anyone tell me what tubing the frame is likely to be? Unfortunately the seat lug is pretty poor and I will need to clean it up before I can get an accurate measurement. Has Campagnolo dropouts.
- Anyone identify the headset?
- I see a lot of the frames have an extra two holes drilled through the rear brake bridge. What was this for?
Thank you for a great thread, really informative
Steve









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Greetings from Johannesburg South Africa. I bought this Fongers built RIH earlier this week and await some details as to its origins in South Africa. The serial number is Z91 with a sizeable space before a C or L. Going by the Fongers site and start of this thread I assume the year to be 1966 model from Groningen.
Questions:
Thank you for a great thread, really informative
Steve










Questions:
- There is no tube decal, can anyone tell me what tubing the frame is likely to be? Unfortunately the seat lug is pretty poor and I will need to clean it up before I can get an accurate measurement. Has Campagnolo dropouts.
- Anyone identify the headset?
- I see a lot of the frames have an extra two holes drilled through the rear brake bridge. What was this for?
Thank you for a great thread, really informative
Steve










The extra holes in the brake bridge are fairly common, but I haven't an explanation for them, other than "drillium".
Perhaps [MENTION=333224]juvela[/MENTION] could have a look at that headset. He can usually identify them at a hundred paces.
Looking forward to seeing it built up!













