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Old 12-05-12 | 02:10 PM
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I just bought an old Bianchi road bike, and I need help with identifying a model and possible year of bike manufacturing. Previous owner sad that original groupset was campagnolo, but now the rear derailleur is shimano shimano exage 400ex , front derailleur is shimano 105 and breaks are shimano exage action. Now I'm a little bit worried about yellow bianchi sticker. He also mentioned that bike is probably from 80's (he doesnt know, because he is a second owner.

p.s. sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker




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Old 12-05-12 | 02:16 PM
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I'm not an expert on Bianchis, but I do believe the fork is bent.
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Old 12-05-12 | 02:17 PM
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I am not a Bianchi expert, but the bicycle pictured (if it is a Bianchi) is damaged.

The fork set, at the very least, is bent and will require straightening, at the very least. And, considering the condition of the fork, one might also want to investigate the condition of the frame set, particularly the top and down tubes, near their intersection with the head tube.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Old 12-05-12 | 02:22 PM
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Decals are circa 1988/1989 but it's an obvious repaint based on the red adjuster screws. I can't see any embossing but those Gipemme dropouts were used by Bianchi. Two bottle mounts, cable routed under the bottom bracket shell, no apparent pump peg (?) and a clamp style front derailleur, suggests a mid-1980s, mid range model. The serial number should allow us to verify the origin and year, and narrow down the model and tubeset. That fork looks really bent.
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Old 12-05-12 | 02:40 PM
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First i would like to thank you guys for your help.

Well I just took another look and the fork and is definitely bent. Bike has also been repainted (i just saw) because I can't read serial number (only the last two numbers 82) .
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Old 12-06-12 | 06:32 AM
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Today i took another picture, so I hope that you can tell me what's the damage, but honestly i can't see where the fork is bend. All I can see is that rear derailleur is damaged.



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Old 12-06-12 | 06:53 AM
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Please post a picture of your bike taken from the drive side, with the bars straight, not turned.
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Old 12-06-12 | 06:59 AM
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Today i took another picture, so I hope that you can tell me what's the damage, but honestly i can't see where the fork is bend. All I can see is that rear derailleur is damaged.



Satio - They were referring to the FRONT fork (we don't call the rear triangle a "fork" in the USA).

Don't despair yet though - if it is only the (front) fork itself that is bent, it's generally possible to straighten it without too much difficulty. DON'T give it to some kid in a bikestore to repair though - give it to one who is experienced and who will proceed slowly and cautiously.
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I am sorry for confusion. Here i have some front fork pictures. I think that front fork is ok but i'm still waiting for your opinion guys.

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Hello Satio Welcome to the forums. Where is this bike? It looks like aside from the crank and front derailleur you have mostly 400 EX parts so I would be sleptical of the "all Campagnolo" claim.

I also agree on the repaint, both because of the painted dropout screws and the color combo/style just seems wrong. What brand are the dropouts? Is there anything stamped on the seat stay caps or the frok crown?


The fork is certainly a gonner even from this angle you can tell is is bent. Also in my opinion the Bianchi decals, as T-Mar noted looks late '80s but those yellow eagle Bianchi decals look really out of place.



PS: Looking at some of your last pics I don't see anything imbossed on the fork crown so I think (assuming the fork matches the frame) this is a '88 or 89 frame possibly one of the Formula frames but without knowing the brand of dropouts it is hard to say for sure, especially if this is a non US market bike.

The handle bars look toasted too!

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Old 12-06-12 | 07:53 AM
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Satio -

The picture below shows a very severe bend. - Much worse than yours.
As you can see, the fork is pushed rearward, and in this case, the bike frame is bent as well.

You should inspect your frame carefully for any damage. If you see wrinkles behind the lugs or paint flaking off, it indicated damage.
Even then it is sometimes possible to repair in the hands of a competent repairman.

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Old 12-06-12 | 08:12 AM
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Well now I can see :'( . I have already inspected the frame and the only damage that I found is on the photo below:



I paid for bike 80€ . Now the seller told me that I can return bike and he give me back my money or he can give me 30€ back and I can keep the bike. Here I need your advice, because I don't know what to do. If I decide to keep a bike, I will use it as " commuter bike " .
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Old 12-06-12 | 08:31 AM
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Well this bike is in Slovenia in Europe and yes the bike has been repainted. Unfortunately I can't say what brand are the dropouts, because the frame has been repainted (neither I can't see entire serial number, just last two numbers). If I decide to keep the bike I will straight handle bars.
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Old 12-06-12 | 11:31 AM
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Old 12-06-12 | 12:00 PM
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return the bike, it's been pretty damaged...
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Such is the life a repainted frame, you may never know what year or model this is but from the clues available to me I would certainly say it is a late '80s frame/fork.

The dropout looks like a Gipiemme to me so that likely narrows it to a Formula frame and those were used for several models.

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Take it back. the frame has been severely compromised.

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Given that's it's a repaint, there's no apparent embossing on the fork crown, lugs or stay caps and we cannot get a complete serial number, there is also the distinct possibility that it may not be a genuine Bianchi. The only only thing that cen be tied to Binchi are the use of the Gipiemme droputs nut they were available to anybody.

If it a Bianchi, I feel it may be slightly older than BG's estimate, solely on the basis of the apparent lack of a pump peg. However, I do agree it would be a mid-range model, probably with a Formula Two tubeset.
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Thank you guys for yours opinions and comments , you are real experts . Tomorrow I will return bicycle back.
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Given that's it's a repaint, there's no apparent embossing on the fork crown, lugs or stay caps and we cannot get a complete serial number, there is also the distinct possibility that it may not be a genuine Bianchi. The only only thing that cen be tied to Binchi are the use of the Gipiemme droputs nut they were available to anybody.

If it a Bianchi, I feel it may be slightly older than BG's estimate, solely on the basis of the apparent lack of a pump peg. However, I do agree it would be a mid-range model, probably with a Formula Two tubeset.
I was stumped on the lack of a peg too but I am not sure if that is a big feature on European bikes. I do hope the OP gets his money back.
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