They are very light, I have paddled a few skin boats. I built a cedar strip 'yak about 8 years ago, but I sold it. Once in Seattle and settled in, I plan to build another, as well as a skin on frame Baidarka that I have the plans for. I also have a Chesapeke tandem kit awaiting ......

I still guide part time on the lower Colorado river ! I dearly love my kayaking !! And dutch oven cooking !

If you like a good day paddling boat, you'll like this skin on frame Greenland design ! Be sure to get the skin tight though !

Good Luck !

Joe

Wow!

Guiding on the Colorado.

That would be a dream deal for me!

We have two Kevlar Current Design Infinities up at the cabin.

They are touring kayaks and they make great multipurpose boats.

We have an access point to the BWCA and are on a 20 plus mile lake known as Birch Lake, but it's actually a flowage where we are located.

Maybe I should have started a kayaking thread.

To get this thread back on track - can you wear a wool cycling jersey while kayaking?

Why yes Jim, the "Adventure" jersey from Wabi is fantastic to wear under a shell and life jacket in the spring and fall.

It isn't super warm. It just cuts the edge on a early morning expedition for the huge Smallmouths we are after.

Works just as well under my old Campy riding shell.

Thanks for the refocus!

Count me in, I am also pro- wool jersey, though I think I have only three. This time of year I get a lot of use out of a thick cable- knit wool sweater. I still get child feet, though.

As much as I like the wool jerseys, I feel goofy wearing clothes with big brand names (or the names of small brands in big fonts) since it's not like they sponsor me or anything. I mean if cinelli gave me a bike I would be thrilled to ride it while wearing a jersey with their name on it, but otherwise I prefer my plain red Portland cycle wear jersey with a white stripe. But to tell the truth my other two wool jerseys do have brand names... So I don't wear them as much.

I am another fan of wool jerseys but only have a half dozen or so. These are two of my favorites. I've had the Bontrager LS for about 20 years and Vittoria for about five.

There is always Surly; similar to the one my wife got me for my birthday a couple of years ago.

I'd love to try some of the newer wool jerseys. They are a bit pricey but has anyone here have any experience with the Rapha Country?

I like wool jerseys, but the moths do too. I have two that are almost new and have nickel sized holes in them, I was bummed, they were not cheap. I guess for decades I was just lucky.

There is a shop in Mpls. that stocks a fair amount of their product line.

When I looked at these, I was quite impressed.

Stitching, seams, pockets, and the collar looked quite nice.

Maybe they'll go on sale?

Thanks for the info gomango. I always wonder about quality when I can't see it in person. I have had my run-ins with moths. These would go in their own slip case with cedar chips. My wife, no doubt, would roll her eyes

Same problem here. Anyone know a solution that doesn't make everything smell like mothballs?

I love merino wool jerseys. I have six or eight of them, mostly from Vintage Velos, but one from Swobo. I also have a couple older Kucharik pre-merino wool jerseys - not as soft feeling and oh-my-God comfy, but they don't itch and they will outlast me. Old-old wool jerseys from Back In The Day were better than the alternatives, but were nowhere near as user friendly as modern merino wool - or modern synthetics, for that matter. There are reasons why wool went the way of the Mohicans for 20 or 30 years

I also have what I think may be the ultimate base layer - it is from Stoic, it has short sleeves and 12 inch zipper, and is a very thin merino wool (I have been amazed how hard it is to find that combination). It has no back pockets and a funky front pocket with a vertical zipper (I never use it), and it is absolutely perfect as a base layer up to at least 85 degrees. My only regret about it is that I only have one and they seem to only make them in long sleeve versions now.

Cedar. Hang them on a cedar hanger or throw the cedar hanger or other piece of cedar in the drawer with them. It won't be 100% effective, but it will be over 95% effective. I keep all my wool jerseys rolled up in a dresser drawer with a cedar hanger, and I still get a few tiny moth holes now aned again, but none of the nickel-sized mood-killers that repechage mentioned.

+1

Newer Merino wool is fabulous, and I love how it smells, or rather doesn't smell even after a long sweaty ride. If I could find more replicas, I'd have more than the 2 or 3 I currently own.

I have shortsleeve and longsleeve Smartwool jerseys, one of each. Both have back pockets; the longsleeve one has a full zipper and is a heavier fabric. I also have some of their microweight t-shirts and lots of their merino socks. I'm a fan; their process (others have similar) makes the wool machine washable with little if any pilling, and (to me) not scratchy at all. I got the cycling jerseys on sale, maybe through Sierra Trading Post, but you have to watch there like a hawk for deals. I'm not even sure Smartwool is making cycling jerseys anymore. Another advantage: their only logo is a very small same-color figure of some kind, practically invisible.

Only problem with all wool is that indeed moths are fans, too.

I keep mine in my cedar chest, in a big ziplock bag. Though I prefer the smell of cedar, I'm not convinced it's a great preventative. I use mothballs we get from China. No chemicals. Nearly pure camphor. It still stinks, but not like chemical-laden mothballs available here, which are full of poison I presume.

Here's a link to the aforementioned Cinelli jersey. $235 and it's half acrylic!
https://ciclismototale.com/?product=j...inelli-classic

Cedar, as was mentioned.

Also bear on mind that the moth doesn't like the wool, buy the residue of something that got spoiled on the wool. Store it clean for best results.

Maybe you wool jersey aficionados could educate me here. Many decades ago I wore wool jerseys. They fit very nicely but they were scratchy as all hell. In recent years I've worn a couple of modern wool jerseys: Nice and comfy but after a while they turn into mini-dresses. That wouldn't be all bad if my wife were 6 feet tall and I could pass them on to her.

What's with the ever-lengthening wool jerseys? Are they for show only, and the sandwich, rainshell, and leg warmers in the pockets are dragging down the hems? Does the same technology or wool that makes them soft also make them sag?
Brent

Whenever I wash mine, which is rarely, they tend to regain some of their original shape. Plus I don't hang them, I lay them out flat on a towel, outside if possible. I hand wash them, using a mild hand soap. Someone told me never to wring wool out too aggressively, so I haven't.

Scott

Yep. That's it Scott. I used to use Woolite, but it's tough to find anymore. Now I use liquid Ivory Snow soap. Roll em in a dry towel to remove most of the water, then dry flat, away from heat.... or wild cats.

My all time favorite. Ed

Indeed!

https://wabiwoolens.com/

Nice!

Considering jumping on one of these. Pretty cool design.
https://www.vintagevelos.com/en/rare-...ng-jersey.html

I know, I've been watching it as well.

Same with this one.

The price is stopping me in my tracks though.

https://www.vintagevelos.com/en/rare-...l-trainer.html