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Old 01-24-13 | 12:05 PM
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Another old Paramount

Love these, but too rich for me...

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Old 01-24-13 | 12:14 PM
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Was it common for track bikes to be drilled for front and rear brakes back in the 30s?
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Old 01-24-13 | 12:20 PM
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Was it common for track bikes to be drilled for front and rear brakes back in the 30s?
No, unless riders used them on the road.
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Old 01-24-13 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes
Was it common for track bikes to be drilled for front and rear brakes back in the 30s?
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No, unless riders used them on the road.
And many of them did, since they could only afford one bike and needed it to ride to work during the week.
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Old 01-24-13 | 04:29 PM
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Cool frame, but it doesn't hold a candle to Scooper's '38 Paramount. It's also interesting to note the ebay frame's geometry. Seller indicates it is 52cm c-t-c seat tube with a 57cm c-t-c top tube. By comparison, Stan's measured at 58.4cm seat tube and 57.2cm top tube. Looks like pretty thick powdercoat on the ebay frame as well.
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Old 01-24-13 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
Cool frame, but it doesn't hold a candle to Scooper's '38 Paramount.
Seem pretty similar except the stunning restoration job on Scoopers...

Mine is about 57.25 ctc toptube on a 56 ctc seat tube. Maybe all toptubes were 57?
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Maybe it can hold a match to Scooper's. The thickness of the paint on the ebay frame is off-putting to me. I also think the red head tube and full decals on scooper's bike make a big difference. And yes, scooper did a stunning restoration as well.
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Its also worth considering that this is not a track frame... Paramount had a few different models in the 30s/early 40s, all had horizontal dropouts, some came with brakes.

Seems that every Wastyn Paramount is advertised as a track bike as they are likely more valuable. That just can't be the case.
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Originally Posted by ericbaker
Its also worth considering that this is not a track frame... Paramount had a few different models in the 30s/early 40s, all had horizontal dropouts, some came with brakes.
You could be right...
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Old 01-27-13 | 01:12 PM
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Given the geometry differences you had mentioned earlier, I'd bee willing to bet the farm that the ebay bike was originally something more akin to this, rather than a track model...



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