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Old 04-24-13, 10:45 PM
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1981 Bianchi Nuovo Touring Bike

My son has a January 1981 Bianchi Nuovo Touring 18-speed bike and I took a few pics to share.

Specs of the bike as follows:
Columbus Tretubi frame set; Shimano 600 Arabesque components, except suntour derailleur; Weinmann-Vainqueur 610 brakes; Mavic wheels; Gipiemme cranks and chain rings; Nitto handlebar and stem (originally equipment ITM); Dia-Compe brake levers (originally equipment with Modolo Flash); Seatpost -27.2 mm (not sure about the original brand); and Specialized seat (new, not sure what came with the bike originally). If you have more info about the rear derailleur, seatpost and seat, please advise.
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Originally Posted by 7veloce
If you have more info about the rear derailleur, seatpost and seat, please advise.
Unfortunately, no specs. But, the description may help.

https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-81c/

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Thanks for the pics and specs. It looks like a comfortable geometry and it's in top notch condition.
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Makes me re-think Celeste! Looks great!
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It's handsome, but the wheelbase is so short that I wouldn't call it ideal for touring.
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You're quite new to the forums, though you seem to know very well what we like to see... Thanks for sharing and welcome on my behalf!
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Originally Posted by noglider
It's handsome, but the wheelbase is so short that I wouldn't call it ideal for touring.
It's ideal for Italian touring. You know, "Ride fast, don't carry anything but a credit card as you race from villa to villa." touring. And, for that, it's perfect.
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Originally Posted by Zieleman
You're quite new to the forums, though you seem to know very well what we like to see... Thanks for sharing and welcome on my behalf!
Just missing a full on drive side pic.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
Just missing a full on drive side pic.
That was your part of the deal, and thanks for that as well! Btw that Gipiemme crankset is very cool.
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I owned a Bianchi Nuovo Racing for years, and I swear, it had the same identical frame -- just different components. Mine was larger (57 cm) and had caliper brakes, but had the same eyelets front and rear. And, of course, mine was Celeste green. I foolishly sold the frame, which is unfortunate because it would have made a great commuter bike, but that was before I started bike commuting.
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the derailler looks like a SunTour Cyclone Mark II GT to me

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/...ur_(3700).html

certainly not original to the bike if the rest of it is all Shimano 600 but a great derailler!
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Originally Posted by wearyourtruth
the derailler looks like a SunTour Cyclone Mark II GT to me

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/...ur_(3700).html

certainly not original to the bike if the rest of it is all Shimano 600 but a great derailler!
Tim, Thank you for the info on SunTour Cyclone Mark II GT. I just checked the bike and indeed it is. I also found on the
https://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/cat...nchi-81c/2.jpg page said they used SunTour deralleur as well, perhaps on the Nuovo Touring model. It would be interesting to find out for sure before we replace it with a 600 Arabesque derailleur.
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Bianchi would not have mixed a Suntour RD with a Shimano 600 group.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
Bianchi would not have mixed a Suntour RD with a Shimano 600 group.
My old Bianchi had a mix of Campagnolo and Ofmega components, from the factory. They certainly didn't mind mixing component brands from Italian companies.
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Looks like a great randonneur or gravel grinder. It doesn't even have upper rack eyelets on the seatstays.. probably would look best with fenders and a bar and saddle bag.
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Originally Posted by noglider
It's handsome, but the wheelbase is so short that I wouldn't call it ideal for touring.
I took some measurements today as follows:

Size/CC/CT: 51 cm/53 cm
Seat tube length: 52 cm
TT length: 52 cm
Head tube angle: 60
Seat tube angle: 60
Chain stay length: 43 cm
Wheelbase length: 100 cm
Bottom bracket height: 27.5 cm
Head tube length: 10.5 cm
Stand over height: 80 cm
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I like it! That SunTour RD is a worthwhile upgrade. The Gipemme crank is interesting -- did they use the same forging for doubles/triples, and just drill/tap some of them for a granny ring?
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Really nice. Should make for a great all rounder.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
My old Bianchi had a mix of Campagnolo and Ofmega components, from the factory. They certainly didn't mind mixing component brands from Italian companies.
Right, but no bike maker would ever use Shimano shifters, Shimano front derailleur, and SunTour rear derailleur. I bet Shimano wouldn't have allowed that.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
The Gipemme crank is interesting -- did they use the same forging for doubles/triples, and just drill/tap some of them for a granny ring?
Yeah, it looks different from the magazine ad duplicated here, almost home-made, as far as the small ring is concerned.

And since I've got a lot doubles that I wish were triples, that has got me thinking...

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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
Yeah, it looks different from the magazine ad duplicated here, almost home-made, as far as the small ring is concerned.

And since I've got a lot doubles that I wish were triples, that has got me thinking...
If you go to the Bianchi catalog, page 5, and squint a little, you can see that the stock one looks drilled as well. I'm sure it was inspired by the folks who drilled their Campy cranks to make triples.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
If you go to the Bianchi catalog, page 5, and squint a little, you can see that the stock one looks drilled as well. I'm sure it was inspired by the folks who drilled their Campy cranks to make triples.
If it's good enough for Campyphiles, it's good enough for me And if I'm one or two mm off-center on my drillings, I'll just pretend it's a Bio-Pace®

Seriously, I'm going to go through my junk box and see if I have any chainring bolts long enough to do this to one of my old, neglected doubles.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
If you go to the Bianchi catalog, page 5, and squint a little, you can see that the stock one looks drilled as well. I'm sure it was inspired by the folks who drilled their Campy cranks to make triples.
I read somewhere that Gipiemme was making parts for Campy in early days. My CIOCC campy cranks and chain rings looks the same. In fact, the back of the Gipiemme crank has "Strada" stamped like the Campy crank.

Note, the touring bike in the catalog is for a different year. There are some differences between the two bikes.

By the way, I have a few pics from another Bianchi NT below with Shimano 600 derailleur, Gipiemme pedals, Modolo brake levers, ITM Special handlebar and stem.
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The spider arms on your triple look thicker than the on the OPs crank; hence, no drill-through? Other than that, pretty much the same.
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I really wanted to stay out of this debate but I, like others here, hate statements like "All Campi EXCEPT" "Full Shimano 600 with" Just what on this bike is 600?

The '81 catalog shows the shifters, derailleurs and hubs as shimano 600 EX, the FW is listed as Shimano Unihub 6spd 14x28, the brakes are listed as DiaCompe, Cranks GipMe Triple touring, bar stem ITM. The seat post and seat are listed as San Marco and Suede Corsair.

You have the RD in your possession it is easier for you tell us what is printed on it or take better pics but I agree it looks like a Suntour, ARX.

I believe the intent of this bike was more "Sport Touring" like the '90s and later Eros, rather than loaded touring.

Originally Posted by 7veloce
My son has a January 1981 Bianchi Nuovo Touring 18-speed bike and I took a few pics to share.

Specs of the bike as follows:
Columbus Tretubi frame set; Shimano 600 Arabesque components, except suntour derailleur; Weinmann-Vainqueur 610 brakes; Mavic wheels; Gipiemme cranks and chain rings; Nitto handlebar and stem (originally equipment ITM); Dia-Compe brake levers (originally equipment with Modolo Flash); Seatpost -27.2 mm (not sure about the original brand); and Specialized seat (new, not sure what came with the bike originally). If you have more info about the rear derailleur, seatpost and seat, please advise.
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