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Mos6502 08-29-06 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mos6502
Got an AMF built Western Flyer 3 speed. It looked very nice, but the brakes didn't work at all (the guy selling hadn't apparently ever ridden it, so I asked him if I could try it and took it down his hilly driveway only to realize the bike wouldn't slow no matter how hard you squeezed those levers...) and only two gears were hitting. I got it home, lubed and adjusted the brakes and the hub and various other things and it functions like new now, looks great. I'd be interested in trading, if anybody has a columbia 3 speed, or columbia roadster (hawthorne 3 speed? etc.)

Finally got a picture:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...Picture001.jpg

I'm now fairly convinced this bike was never used.

BlankCrows 08-29-06 10:53 PM

Vintage Road Bike Shimano Disc Brake
 
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So there I was today wandering about and for a song I got an old JCPenney 10 Speed Racer with an old Shimano Disc Brake on the back. I've never been in the market for any Pennys bike but I had to make an exception in this case.

I don't know much about older stuff (or the new stuff either), but it's got a huge Shimano Eagle rear derailleur, a Shimano GTO Thunder Bird front derailleur, a Shimano Tourney front brake with Shimano handles w/ suicide levers, some large Shimano black handled shifters, and a JUN stem. Is there any good info about this older Shimano stuff?

Disk brake works just fine. I left a skid mark on the driveway with it.

The frame isn't lugged, it's a heavy beast but I like the brown color and the orange sticker on the disk brake is rather complimentary as fall is approaching. It's in pretty nice shape. I'll have to clean up the chrome and steel and replace the electrical tape and plastic zip straps that are holding the cables to the tubes.

I saw an old thread thead mentioned this bike: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=161951

Mos6502 08-30-06 12:26 AM

I envy your disc brake find. I can't tell in the picture, but does the bike inidicate where it was made? I've seen J.C. penny bikes that were made in Austria, and one made in the U.S. by Murray. The brown color is nice too. Also, is the Shimano eagle the type with the drilled out gaurd over it?

Lamplight 08-30-06 05:15 AM

Interesting. I saw almost that exact same JCPenney bike at a thrift store here a few months ago. The disc brake definitely caught my eye as well.

BlankCrows 08-30-06 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Mos6502
I envy your disc brake find. I can't tell in the picture, but does the bike inidicate where it was made? I've seen J.C. penny bikes that were made in Austria, and one made in the U.S. by Murray. The brown color is nice too. Also, is the Shimano eagle the type with the drilled out gaurd over it?

I substituted a better picture of the disc brake and added one of the Eagle derailleur. The drilled guard over the Eagle is more like a fortress. It even says Eagle on the bracket that connects to the dropout. I can't find any evidence of where it was manufactured. The front hub and the pedals say Wald Made in U.S.A., and the rims say M.O. Mfg. Co. on them and have small parallel groves all the way around the centerline. The rear hub of course is a Shimano made contraption. There is a serial number on the head tube: M05 2350N662 417. Not sure if any of that helps to identify where it came from.

The old foam bar covering is gonna go. It's about ready to start crumbling. I have a package of carbon looking bar wrap that will sleek up this beast nicely.

I wonder if any of the LBS's (or anyone else) have suitable pads for that brake.

Lambo 08-30-06 01:32 PM

I just bought a silver and black 1975 Motobecane Grand Record at a local thrift. Campy Nuovo Record shifters, front and rear derailleur, Brooks professional saddle. Nice lugs - Nervex, I've read. Campy dropout.
I hope it isn't too small for me. It's a bit scratched up cosmetically, but still presentable.

Sammyboy 08-30-06 01:42 PM

How much did you pay Lambo?

Lambo 08-30-06 02:57 PM

About $75 including tax. Not a killer deal, but a good one, I think.
Needs a little work (wheels trued, hubs tightened up, brakes adjusted), getting that done now at the LBS. Can't wait to take it for a spin after I put new tires and tubes on.
I'll try and post pics soon. If it fits, I'd consider getting it restored. Perhaps in the black and red color scheme. My 1984 Centurion Comp TA is already my silver bike.

Ashen 08-30-06 04:29 PM

I just had the score of a lifetime just about.

I got 4 bikes in total.

One is a late model Novara Randonee touring bike
One is a Raleigh Alyeska touring bike
One is a Miele with Tange Infinity frame in near flawless condition (super nice paint!)
One is a Cannondale SR500

Randonee is about what you expect, its an Alu frame instead of steel like the newest ones though.
Alyeska is probably from the early 80s sometime, but has full braze ons and cantis and everything.

The Miele is interesting, with the really nice frame (hand painted, internal cable routing) but Exage 300 components and light action shifters. I don't imagine the Dura Ace rear hub is original either, but it's fine with me.

The SR500... what a mishmash. Dura Ace derailleurs, but all the rest is Campagnolo. The wheels are tubulars, built on Record hubs (front rim is Campy Crono, rear is some Mavic I forget the model), Modolo brake calipers, Campy seatpost and shifters, and a fully chomed Colnago fork.

Total damages? $250

I'm sure I'll post a separate thread with tons of pics, because I'm looking for info on some of this stuff :)

Brian 08-30-06 05:11 PM

I wonder what that disc is worth to some obesessive collector.

Mos6502 08-30-06 05:38 PM

Judging by the look of those stays and dropouts, and that the bike has some Wald components, I'd say that is deffinately a Murray product. I very nearly bought bright yellow JC Penney Murray a few months ago that was in absolutely mint condition. Had yellow paint, yellow seat, and yellow bar tape - but no disc brake. The Eagle deraileur is really common on lower end bikes from the 70s, but not all of them have the drilled out cover, which I think is probably the only cool thing about them, I'm pretty sure they were made in Japan.

BlankCrows 08-30-06 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Expatriate
I wonder what that disc is worth to some obesessive collector.

I'd like to find out.

Any obsessive collectors please inquire away. I can post or email other photos per request.

Serendipper 08-30-06 06:59 PM

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I suppose this is vintage...80's Miyata Alumicross. A good Ebay find.I like the white cable guides and headset, steel fork and chainstays. Lugged aluminum frame with intergrated seatpost binder bolt. Cool. I love Japanese toys.~

robtown 08-30-06 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
I don't think it is an entry level bike, I always thought Infinity Tange Double Butted tubing was pretty good stuff; how light is it? Also, the lugs are nice and I think that if you switched out the saddle and put some fenders on the bike, you'd have a really nice all-weather bike. I really like it and I bet it rides nicely.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._8845small.jpg

I've got a mid-80's Centurian Accordo 25" Tange Infinity double butted frame. It clocks in at over 30 lbs but rides smooth.

vinnydelnegro 08-30-06 11:30 PM

Just picked up a Trek 87 400D Elance. It wasn't one of those $25 garage sale pickups, but I'm still psyched! I paid $150 for it and it's in mint condition. Found it on craigslist described as an old "touring bike". Here's the description..almost no info:

Trek Touring Bicycle - $150

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Reply to: see below
Date: 2006-08-29, 1:38PM MDT


48 cm Trek 12 speed touring bicycle. Good for both male and female riders. Like new.

I've seen a few of these on ebay and they sell for almost $300. When I called the lady selling it, she told me all the typical things...like, I only rode the thing a couple of times, it's basically brand new....you guys know the drill. When I saw the bike, I knew she was serious. The thing is almost mint...a scratch along the top tube and a scratch near the right drop out....that one is kinda bad, but there's no rust. I think it just got scratched up a bit from storage and transporting. The thing shifts really well and the wheels are truer than any of my current bikes. These olds Treks are amazing...better than any entry level road bike today....Reynolds 531, investment cast lugs, nice details, etc.

Sammyboy 08-31-06 09:47 AM

Oh, I had a good day at the office today. First is this Claud Butler Gran Sport, for which I paid £95. Probably paid too much, but never mind. It's evidently not a top line frame, plain spearpoint lugs, but it has a Campy Velox rear derailleur, and that Imperial Purple frame is going to turn a few heads.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00241.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00242.jpg

Sammyboy 08-31-06 09:49 AM

Next up was this very nice JA Holland tourer, a snip at £30. 531, nice lugs, Campy Gran Sport rear der, Ideale leather saddle, very very nice.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00236.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00237.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00238.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00239.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00240.jpg

Sammyboy 08-31-06 09:54 AM

Then the surprise in the pot. The fellow I bought the Holland from say, "Oh, I've got a mixte you might be interested in, if you like old bikes. Out comes this Mercian! 531 of course, Mafac Cantis, Campy Gran Sport again, beautiful. Somebody has decided to "modernize" it in the 80's, hence the appalling bar tape, suicide levers, and that saddle, but underneath, nice as pie. So tempted to keep this for the girlfriend. It's by a long way the nicest mixte I've ever seen, and at £30, it was a steal.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00233.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00234.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00235.jpg


And then there were the ones that got away. The chap with the Mercian and the Holland also had a lovely Rotrax tourer he wanted to keep. The bloke with the Claud Butler had an original 50's Ernie Clements, in really good nick. I offered £95 for that too, but he was too savvy for that. I do believe I would've kept that bike, but he wanted £250 minimum for it, and I just didn't have it. It had wierd knurled thumbwheels on the brake levers, which I'd never seen before. I nearly licked it......

mswantak 08-31-06 10:49 AM

Well, I'm sick already... :p



:D

Mhendricks 08-31-06 10:49 AM

Sweet, Sweet, Mixte. I'm drooling :p

Serendipper 08-31-06 10:56 AM

Once again, Sammyboy...You make me wish I was in England.:beer:

Sammyboy 08-31-06 11:12 AM

Heheheheh, if I could find high end Peugeots and Raleighs at the kerb and at yard sales for $5 like you do, I probably wouldn't go to the effort of digging these things up!

Sammyboy 08-31-06 02:52 PM

Hmmm. The g/f wants the Mercian, but she really likes the awfulness of the seat and the tape. She doesn't like the suicide levers though, nor the downtube shifter, and wants me to set it up with a thumbshifter and a set of interruptor levers. I'm hoping that when the Bates is shining like new, she'll let me put a Brooks and some sensible tape on it, so we have cool looking Vintage rides we can use together.

USAZorro 08-31-06 03:40 PM

I like that Holland. Can you anticipate my question?

mswantak 08-31-06 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Sammyboy
Hmmm. The g/f wants the Mercian, but she really likes the awfulness of the seat and the tape.

I feel your pain; you should see the bars the wife had me put on her Centurion LeMans mixte. :eek:

Sammyboy 08-31-06 11:46 PM

I'll measure it for you John. I think it's too big, but I'll check. It IS gorgeous.

peripatetic 09-01-06 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by Sammyboy
I'll measure it for you John. I think it's too big, but I'll check. It IS gorgeous.

If it doesn't work out for him, put me second in line :D.

USAZorro 09-01-06 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by peripatetic
If it doesn't work out for him, put me second in line :D.

Still sorting things out eh? ;) http://75.126.17.35/showthread.php?t=224730

evwxxx 09-01-06 09:04 AM

Stopped at the local thrift store yesterday. They had an old "gas pipe" Olmo, not much to recommend it, looked like maybe old Magistroni steel cranks, but unmarked. Rear wheel had been replaced at some point, sunshine hub. Front looked to be original, with Normandy "competition" hub, unmarked alloy rim. ttt bar and stem, "Compe" brake levers, "Favorit" C-P brakes. Decal for front badge. They wanted $25. I decided to pass, too many bikes in the garage to add lower end Italian stuff, but still interesting!

Sammyboy 09-01-06 09:42 AM

If you're serious about looking for that sort of bike, Peripatetic, drop me a pm. I'll find you something. Shipping costs are pretty high though, unless USAZorro has had more luck than me finding a cheap option.


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