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CenturionIM 08-03-13 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 15920766)

what is that on your seat tube?

Gary Fountain 08-03-13 06:48 PM

After much consideration, deliberation and admiration, I have come to the conclusion that your Cinelli is spectacular. Wow, what a great bike. I can see why you are considering the green panels and, I think, that course of action would go some way to making it your own. I'm in favour.

There is another thread asking about 'grail' bikes - I haven't been able to contribute but a Cinelli of this vintage was always on my mind as an answer to that thread. Thanks for posting.

rando_couche 08-03-13 06:57 PM

Gorgeous! I wouldn't worry about accents to match the fenders, but that rear fender line needs to be fixed! It should be the same distance from the tire all the way around.

SP
OC, OR
(fender country)

b dub 08-03-13 07:20 PM

It never crossed my mind to start with panto'd fenders and find a bike to match. It looks very special indeed. A green Silka pump will pull it all together. Sweet!

mikemowbz 08-03-13 07:22 PM

Very slick! Been looking forward to these pics, and while they may not (as you suggest) quite do justice to the complementarity between frame and fenders, they certainly give a better look than those other little ones...

If you really want to tie it all together, you should get an Ace Cycles jersey, only $99 Canadian! Still in business after all these years.

KonAaron Snake 08-03-13 07:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone!


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 15921984)
That is a capital idea.

Those fenders are the coolest thing I've seen on here in a while.
Are the stays adjustable for trimming the fender line, Aaron?
Doesn't quite look like it.

They aren't - I can slide the rear wheel back in the drop out and get it a bit better.


Originally Posted by CenturionIM (Post 15922032)
what is that on your seat tube?

Do you mean the pump umbrella?


Originally Posted by mikemowbz (Post 15922308)
Very slick! Been looking forward to these pics, and while they may not (as you suggest) quite do justice to the complementarity between frame and fenders, they certainly give a better look than those other little ones...


If you really want to tie it all together, you should get an Ace Cycles jersey, only $99 Canadian! Still in business after all these years.

I like it! I learned a lot about Ace from VJP, CDM and the seller.

As far as the generous Silca offers, I think I have one I can paint and use.

iab 08-03-13 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by b dub (Post 15922303)
It never crossed my mind to start with panto'd fenders and find a bike to match. It looks very special indeed. A green Silka pump will pull it all together. Sweet!


Originally Posted by balindamood (Post 15920800)
Those are the first pantographed Cinelli fenders I have ever seen. You have (another) beautiful bike.

I'm confused. Where is the pantographing on the fenders?

Pars 08-03-13 07:44 PM

Very cool bike Aaron. I kinda like the green on the fenders, but agree that infill might be too much.

:thumb::thumb:

b dub 08-03-13 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by iab (Post 15922350)
I'm confused. Where is the pantographing on the fenders?

I guess they're technically decals, still need.

BlueDevil63 08-04-13 08:17 AM

Gorgeous bike Aaron!

devinfan 08-04-13 08:24 AM

I'm speechless over this one...

rhm 08-04-13 09:40 AM

Can you adjust the fender line? If I follow the photos correctly, it doesn't seem to be possible, and the rear stays appear to be too long, relative to the brake bridge height. Maybe that's not quite it, but something isn't right.

rootboy 08-04-13 09:43 AM

See post #31 , RHM. I noticed it too and, was a bit reluctant to point it out as those are such cool fenders.
Were these fenders made for frames with a bit more clearance? Like their "city" bikes?

Still, I was a bit surprised to see the fender stays contain no method for adjustment.

KonAaron Snake 08-04-13 09:47 AM

I was able to somewhat improve the fender line by sliding the wheel further in its dropout...these were designed for the SCs. There is clearance for a larger tire and that could help.

rhm 08-04-13 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 15923709)
I was able to somewhat improve the fender line by sliding the wheel further in its dropout...these were designed for the SCs. There is clearance for a larger tire and that could help.

Yes, it does look like the fenders are meant for a bigger tire, which is easily changed.

My point, though, is that either the brake bridge is too low, or the stays are too long, and neither one can be adjusted. So (though I hope I am wrong) it seems to me that the gorgeous fenders do not fit the beautiful bicycle, and this is not something you can fix with nail polish.

Now, please don't take this the wrong way. Most of my bikes have fenders, and most have a fender line that is no better than this. So I don't want to be the pot that calls the kettle black. But my fenders are there because I ride in the rain. And when i ride a bike without them, i almost always regret their absence. You on the other hand already suggested this bike might be a wall hanger. And that, too, is fine, but if so, it should be visually perfect. And with these fenders, it won't be.

kylarr 08-04-13 10:47 AM

That is an awesome bike. I lust after those fenders. I have a '71 with the eyelets that needs a repaint. If I ever found a pair I would just paint the bike to match.

I wouldn't worry too much about the fender line. Many of the pictures I have seen of Cinellis with fenders have had small fitting issues. If they were just mass produced then a pair was pulled out of a pile to be painted with a frame they will all just fit ok. That is just my theory.

KonAaron Snake 08-04-13 10:48 AM

I'll try and find a way to live with it ;)

I think it's been well established that I'm not the most finicky on aesthetics, and to be perfectly honest, an imperfect fender line doesn't really upset me much. The fenders were designed for the SCs...I'm pretty grateful to have a set, even if the line is a bit funky. I think minor niggles with struts that can't be adapted are going to happen - I don't think Cino was worried about people judging the fender line in 73'.

rootboy 08-04-13 10:55 AM

It's a minor issue. Heck, I hope Aaron doesn't think we're nit-picking that fine bike. :)
I mean, complain about a Cinelli SC with fenders?! Oh no...
Far be it from me, I only have one bike with fenders. And the one shown in this thread is my Holy Grail bike.

Still, I like this ingenious method Frejus used on their fenders for adjusting the line. Clever, until one loosens and bounces away on the road never to be seen again. Just had to re-make one of these pesky little acorn nuts.
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...Fendernut1.jpg

KonAaron Snake 08-04-13 12:11 PM

Very cool RB! I wasn't annoyed - I know the comments are meant to be helpful. I had heard speculation that the Frejus fenders and Cinelli fenders were from the same source; after seeing both, they aren't.

kylarr 08-04-13 12:53 PM

These seem to more closely match the Frejus fenders.


[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/9...1cd6a578_n.jpg1975cin9 by lelandgibson, on Flickr[/IMG]

I got the photo from here:

http://oakwoodlife.blogspot.com/2008...per-corsa.html

rhm 08-04-13 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by bogus post
Yo, lighten up! It's a Cinelli, okay? With fenders, you dig? It's a Cinelli with Cinelli fenders! Who cares if they don't fit! They have the Cinelli logo on them!

That what I'm hearing, anyway.

fender1 08-04-13 02:51 PM

Just get some SKS fenders and call it done.;) Sweet bike!

KonAaron Snake 08-04-13 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by fender1 (Post 15924437)
Just get some SKS fenders and call it done.;) Sweet bike!


:lol:

I'll just toss Cinelli decals on them so the line is better :rolleyes:

I was able to improve it slightly:

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps07811e5f.jpg

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...psea5a385b.jpg

fender1 08-04-13 03:56 PM

Is that a 23mm on there currently? Maybe try a 25mm tire, if it will fit and a spacer at the chainstay bridge to reduce the gap. That will take care of most of the issue. Not everything has to live up to the J.P. Weigle/Rene Herse fender line standard.

KonAaron Snake 08-04-13 03:57 PM

I was wondering if a spacer would work! 700x22 right now...tubular, so switching out is a pain. I have 27s in my other Cinelli and the spacing is similar.


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