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Old 12-22-13 | 02:26 PM
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Great looking, well used bike!
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Old 12-22-13 | 04:09 PM
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really cool bike !
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Old 12-22-13 | 05:28 PM
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Let's see some more pics of that beauty.
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Old 12-22-13 | 05:43 PM
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Dude! That is one great looking saddle! Total score on a great old bike! The saddle should be carefully inspected and lubed up with some Proofide. It should last forever. I love those old thick leather saddles, they seem to have a magical quality that the newer ones can't seem to match. Congratulations!
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Old 12-22-13 | 05:49 PM
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Nice touring bike, 1960s style!
Very graceful fork.
Quite the narrow range triple... half-step plus, uh, half-step! (back when men were men)
Not a bad combo of period correct and newer components.
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Old 12-22-13 | 05:56 PM
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Thanks for the kind words all!

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Very nice bike!
Do you suppose the dimples where the chain stays insert into the bottom bracket shell were an alternative to pinning to hold the stays in place while brazing?
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That's interesting - anyone confirm?
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Old 12-22-13 | 06:34 PM
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BTW, be sure to blue locktite these on after you overhaul the fenders. They're a real b**ch to find, and not easy to make! :>



Don't nobody go asking rootboy how he knows…

That really is a cool feature and thanks for drawing my attention to it rootboy. I'm in the middle of fitting mudguards to my Morris (just painted the stays black gloss) and found myself wondering if the brackets could be bent out like KonAaron Snake's Frejus (beautiful, btw, KA S!) but then realised the rest of the work that would need doing, like threading the ends of the stays, finding a male & female nut junction for the end and all the time searching for it all would take and gave up. It could an interesting project though...

It does make me wonder if Frejus commissioned those fittings or whether they were generic at the time… I notice the seat lug is of a kind common on 'city bikes' in Italy at the time, although I'm not sure if they all came from the same maker or were in fashion and produced by different makers. It's a very pretty style, I think. Here are a couple of variations on the theme, snapped on the streets of Verona, Italy:

A Galetti:

[IMG] IMG_6606 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

A Chesini:
[IMG] IMG_6544 by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

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Old 12-22-13 | 06:40 PM
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Great bike! Make sure you have enough of that stem in the steerer.
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Old 12-22-13 | 06:52 PM
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My fenders are damaged

The rear has a tear near the stay...though they seem to be solidly stable.
As rootboy suggested, it can be gently beaten into shape but then you would need to reinforce the area to keep the repair good. The neatest way I've seen to do this is to add a length of 3mm diameter alloy rod along the underside of the indents in the mudguard, bent to follow the form, either side of the damage.

This is a celluloid mudguard from a pre-war Evans but it shows you what's involved. You would need to use a strong glue.

[IMG] Mudguard repair by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

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Old 12-22-13 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawes-man
It does make me wonder if Frejus commissioned those fittings or whether they were generic at the time… I notice the seat lug is of a kind common on 'city bikes' in Italy at the time, although I'm not sure if they all came from the same maker or were in fashion and produced by different makers. It's a very pretty style, I think. Here are a couple of variations on the theme, snapped on the streets of Verona, Italy:
Good eye, but Frejus were known to be distinctively plain-looking lugs, with that cut-out window. Those others are just too fancy-looking, to be "real" Frejus.
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Old 12-23-13 | 02:49 AM
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Just came across this on Classic Lightweights, an early '60 Frejus that looks to my untrained eye just like yours. Could they be related?
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Old 12-23-13 | 05:29 AM
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Great bike, Aaron. These patina-d gems make me a little self-conscious that my own modest collection stretches back no further in history than the last Russian Olympics.
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Old 12-23-13 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dawes-man
Just came across this on Classic Lightweights, an early '60 Frejus that looks to my untrained eye just like yours. Could they be related?
It is interesting to me that the bike shown there doesn't seem to have a Reynolds decal on it either. I wonder if this was common practice in the early 60's.
Mine ('63) has one on the seat tube, just above the main Frejus crest.
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Old 12-23-13 | 05:02 PM
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Very Nice Bike...Have fun with it. With Frejus, the C&R serial number registry helps, so early 1960's looks about right. It looks like it is in good shape...
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Old 12-23-13 | 05:04 PM
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If you check the C/R list you'll notice that this is actually registered on it!
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Old 12-23-13 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
If you check the C/R list you'll notice that this is actually registered on it!
Cool, it's like your provenance, kinda. My frame & fork's serial # is listed there too, but it's an unusual run of numbers, from the early 70s & possibly earlier, that don't really "fit" anywhere. When I sent pics to the webmaster there, I still had about 2/3s of the old headbadge decal, since removed, so it's listed, just not pretty enough for a centerfold shot, LOL. But I don't care what she looks like, this frame is my baby.
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Old 12-23-13 | 06:47 PM
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Great looking bike!
here is mine
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Old 12-24-13 | 02:50 PM
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Great looking bike!
here is mine
The fork, um...?
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Old 12-24-13 | 03:08 PM
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Is turned slightly, it has been on a frame table and fork checker and is actually straight.
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Old 12-24-13 | 03:16 PM
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OK, glad to hear it's just optical!
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Old 12-24-13 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by toytech
Is turned slightly, it has been on a frame table and fork checker and is actually straight.
According to my camera, every one of my bikes has bent forks
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Old 12-24-13 | 06:02 PM
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I have a knack for making my bikes look bad in photos I think.
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Old 12-25-13 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
With 27.0 tubing I think it has to be double butted. Show yours man...maybe we need a Frejus thread?
Later that same century.... I got "some" decent pics here, but you probably know, sometimes pics come out better than others. That's why I take a lot, that way, I usually get at least some right. I just realized, our seat tube clusters are the same, but our fork crowns are a little different, for sure. I'll try to grab a better close-up sometime, and that might be a useful identifier, for other folks, trying to date their Frejus/Freji. Obviously, this is after riding through old leaves, around Magnuson Park. It's like mulch, but sticks everywhere.
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Old 12-25-13 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by toytech
I have a knack for making my bikes look bad in photos I think.
It's damned hard to make them look good, I think. Taking great bike shots aint easy.

Are we turning this into a Frey-yoos appreciation thread? Oh good! :>


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Old 12-25-13 | 08:12 AM
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^^^ one of the most beautiful bikes on the forum...the panels are hawwwt.

Spaceman, yours looks a good bit later. I do like the bars a lot...they seem nice and high. I've never managed to get stache bars comfortable.

Maybe a show your frejus thread?
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