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Andybrads 01-01-14 05:24 AM

Joco resto
 
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357400Hi all and happy new year.
I have a 1930's joco frame in great nick which I'll be working on this year.
A guy in holland, Herbert Kuner, has helped a lot with dating it and giving me some history but what I need now is a feel for these bikes, colours, decals and kit etc etc
If anyone has a joco or even just some images please post.
My feel is I won't be able to go back to original group sets etc and will end up with a campy groupset.....
Thanks in advance all.
Andy

Michael Angelo 01-01-14 05:36 AM

Looks very cool, almost looks like it has a ceramic coating.

Andybrads 01-01-14 05:39 AM

It's currently got a great quality paint job but it doesn't feel close enough to original so it'll be painted again......I think........but I'm not sure yet because it is a cool looking colour.

pullup 01-01-14 06:15 AM

Nice, a Joco thread. :)

I coincidentally found myself a Joco bike recently which I am working on to 'restore'.
A much later example, i think late 60's, coming from a Hilversum estate.

There have been made some changes to the original specs but I will at least keep the Mafac brakes and Titan post for sure and have found a nice Titan stem and Maes barset.

http://i40.tinypic.com/28j8tas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/rtq5b9.jpg

I met the very nice mister Kuner once by the way and got this little Joco brochure from 1937.

http://i44.tinypic.com/1se5x0.jpg

It contains a list of all the different items the shop had in store.
I will try to make a nice set of pics for you so you know with wich cmponents your bike could be fitted :D
I am sure it wil be extremely nice but virtually impossible to restore it to original specs.

Zieleman 01-01-14 06:17 AM

Nice find! You should post this in the 'Dutch Invasion'-thread. There are some folks there who know a great deal about Joco who can help you finding original colours and spec. Btw back in those days there was no such thing as a complete group set. So maybe you're able to find and fit components that look the part...

Zieleman 01-01-14 06:17 AM

Haha Pullup's already in!

Andybrads 01-01-14 07:22 AM

Already picking up some good info. Btw pullup, your joco looks like a nice classic bike, the decals look nice and simple. Is it reynolds tubing?
i note that pretty much every joco I have seen has solid colours with nice lug detailing, although this may be aftermarket custom work.
olympic rings also feature a lot, Titan and mafac look to be quite common also (thanks pullup)

any my more joco info or detail would be great, cheers all.

non-fixie 01-01-14 08:29 AM

Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-UCDDAPQQ.jpg

PedalTraveler 01-01-14 09:16 AM

I think that is the coolest paint job on a bike I have ever seen!! And it looks like my size too! Serious case of bike envy...


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16372506)
Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa:

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-UCDDAPQQ.jpg


Italuminium 01-01-14 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16372506)
Well, Joco's could also be very colorful, like this Ronde van Europa

That is a very nice and colorful bike! Yours?

non-fixie 01-01-14 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 16372607)
That is a very nice and colorful bike! Yours?

No, way too small. I think it came up for sale a while back. Kept the pic for my files, just as a point of reference for when something like this shows up in 61-63 cm ...

pullup 01-01-14 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16372645)
No, way too small. I think it came up for sale a while back. Kept the pic for my files, just as a point of reference for when something like this shows up in 61-63 cm ...

It is a beautiful frame and I seem to remember some more Joco's with that kind of paintscheme.

This one is on marktplaats right now but it was quickly reserved.
A Joco from 1949


http://i44.tinypic.com/1238n7p.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/160eqa9.jpg

Italuminium 01-01-14 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16372645)
No, way too small. I think it came up for sale a while back. Kept the pic for my files, just as a point of reference for when something like this shows up in 61-63 cm ...

ah, ok. I must have missed it while it was listed, it's a nice size for me :)

Andybrads 01-01-14 10:16 AM

Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.

ColonelJLloyd 01-01-14 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372315)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357400Hi all and happy new year.
I have a 1930's joco frame in great nick which I'll be working on this year.
A guy in holland, Herbert Kuner, has helped a lot with dating it and giving me some history but what I need now is a feel for these bikes, colours, decals and kit etc etc
If anyone has a joco or even just some images please post.
My feel is I won't be able to go back to original group sets etc and will end up with a campy groupset.....
Thanks in advance all.
Andy

This frame is from the '30s? Looks much later to me.

pullup 01-01-14 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372736)
Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.

Actually there is a guy on Marktplaats right now who has different Joco decals on sale at the moment.
Have a look http://www.marktplaats.nl/verkopers/16865346.html

non-fixie 01-01-14 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372736)
Bugger, can't see non fixes image, the orange frame looks more like what imagined a joco to look like, nice solid colour, Olympic Rings (easy to source), tubing/lug decal (possibly reynolds and again, easy to source) and a joco decal.......sourcing one of these will be my biggest challenge.

Lots of Joco decals currently for sale on MP: http://www.marktplaats.nl/verkopers/16865346.html

non-fixie 01-01-14 10:33 AM

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[MENTION=361640]Andybrads[/MENTION]: does this work better for you? Those colors are not to be missed ...


http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357434

Andybrads 01-01-14 10:39 AM

Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation.
i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle.

colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937

non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour'

Zieleman 01-01-14 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 16372783)
@Andybrads: does this work better for you? Those colors are not to be missed ...


http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357434

joco rasta resto

Zieleman 01-01-14 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372796)
Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation.
i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle.

colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937

non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour'

Google translate does Dutch as well, though lots of the Dutchies on the 'craigslist'-type of site have different views on grammar and spelling.

pullup 01-01-14 11:13 AM

Well this is becoming a nice Joco thread so it could not be without the beautiful Joco Wouter showed on BF a couple of months ago.

http://i43.tinypic.com/vific2.jpg

Apparently a barnfind from somewhere in the north of France.

non-fixie 01-01-14 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372796)
Wow, not familiar with the site.
is it a Dutch buy/sell site?, May need some help with translation.
i have looked and the joco text along with the joco seat tube badge look nice and subtle.

colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937

non fixie, yes. Those colours are wild, thanks. As you say......far from 'solid colour'

If you're interested in those decals, I'd be willing to facilitate. As you can't PM yet - you need a 50 posts minimum, send me an e-mail at nonfixie[at]gmail[dot]com.

Andybrads 01-01-14 12:13 PM

Thanks nonfixie, mail sent.

ColonelJLloyd 01-01-14 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Andybrads (Post 16372796)
colonel, it does seem to be in good nick for its age but the lugs and the frame number (31315) date it between 1936 and 1937

I'm not sure Nervex Professional lugs date that far back. http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk...ts/nervex.html


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