1965 Paramount
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1965 Paramount
My latest CL find.







Outed by BF member camelopardolis, I had already spotted it on my local CL. Seller was 65 miles away, his price was right, I knew I had to act fast. After all this is Southern California and I knew the seller was going to get a lot of interested buyers.
In order to get his attention I tossed another Benjamin on the table (He had already added pedals and pump in an earlier email) and he contacted me. We closed the deal and he brought me the bike. A perfect CL transaction!
Definitely a 1965 Paramount but with some upgrades from about 1971.
Outed by BF member camelopardolis, I had already spotted it on my local CL. Seller was 65 miles away, his price was right, I knew I had to act fast. After all this is Southern California and I knew the seller was going to get a lot of interested buyers.
In order to get his attention I tossed another Benjamin on the table (He had already added pedals and pump in an earlier email) and he contacted me. We closed the deal and he brought me the bike. A perfect CL transaction!
Definitely a 1965 Paramount but with some upgrades from about 1971.
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Very nice! I've never seen a 60's Paramount in that color.
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Bikes: 1958 Schwinn Deluxe Spitfire, 2016 Surly Cross Check, 1971 BH Folder, 2016 Felt DD10
Wow that's a gorgeous bike in a great color too, whether its a repaint or not. Really a wonderful buy! You'll have to post some ride photos in the future.
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If it is a repaint then it was done when the bike was about six years old. The seller indicated that it had been a part of the family since 1971-72 and his brother received it as compensation for working at a bike shop in SoCal. He received it as we see it today. He also had the Schwinn 'Kool Blue' touch up paint for nicks/chips.
Anyone know when the seat tube decal seen on this Paramount was first available?
Anyone know when the seat tube decal seen on this Paramount was first available?
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Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
But not anytime soon, I hope.
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If it is a repaint then it was done when the bike was about six years old. The seller indicated that it had been a part of the family since 1971-72 and his brother received it as compensation for working at a bike shop in SoCal. He received it as we see it today. He also had the Schwinn 'Kool Blue' touch up paint for nicks/chips.
Anyone know when the seat tube decal seen on this Paramount was first available?
Anyone know when the seat tube decal seen on this Paramount was first available?
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According to the Paramount History pages on the Waterford website, "In '68, Schwinn updated the seatmast panel to reflect Schwinn's name change to Schwinn Bicycle Company from the original Arnold Schwinn and Company."
So, around 1968 the Olympic Rings seat tube decal got changed from "Arnold, Schwinn & Co." to "Schwinn Bicycle Company."
I believe the paint color is "Opaque Blue."
This is a 1965 Paramount seat tube decal with "Arnold, Schwinn & Co." Picture purloined from a completed ebay auction.
So, around 1968 the Olympic Rings seat tube decal got changed from "Arnold, Schwinn & Co." to "Schwinn Bicycle Company."
I believe the paint color is "Opaque Blue."
This is a 1965 Paramount seat tube decal with "Arnold, Schwinn & Co." Picture purloined from a completed ebay auction.
Last edited by Scooper; 01-13-14 at 08:23 PM.
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Conclusion: Components were upgraded at time of repaint. I know, that's a no-brainer.

Thanks to all who assisted.
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Since the head lugs and fork crown are painted rather than chrome plated, I suspect the component upgrades were to a frameset that was originally a P-12, which had painted head lugs and fork crown, and came with a Stronglight crankset instead of Campagnolo.
Here are the 1965 dealer catalog pages for the $175 P-12 and $226 P-13.

Here are the 1965 dealer catalog pages for the $175 P-12 and $226 P-13.

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Scooper, you're right. I forgot that there was a Deluxe Paramount and a plain old Paramount. I once had a 1965 Paramount with the Stronglight cranks and painted headtube lugs. Beautiful bike but at 57cm too small to ride.





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