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unworthy1 05-01-14 10:11 PM

Re-branded ALAN frames: a list
 
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We know that ALAN (Italian made aluminum and aluminum+carbon fiber frames) were often sold under other brands...
Guerciotti was one very well known brand that sold MANY of these, but I'm sure there were dozens more (why the ALAN company was so eager to take on this "contract" work is a mystery, but I'm sure they had reasons, and made some money)
Contribute your examples...pix are almost mandatory.
I'll start with one I flipped

Fanini (a re-branded ALAN Carbonio, that even has the ALAN brand on the fork blades)

Chombi 05-01-14 11:39 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44...psbb1e7b53.jpg
Well,........ I'll man up and admit that my 86 ALAN Carbonio lived most of it's life since 1986 as a Nishiki, till I bought it a couple of years ago from fellow C&V forum member "schnibop".
What I understand is, Nishiki back then wanted to join the new CF band wagon, but did not have a CF bike ready to build and sell to the public, so they went and bought some Record Carbonio framesets from ALAN and had Nishiki decals applied on them. Otherwise the frameset is identical to the Carbonios ALAN sold under their brand name, identical down to all the gold anodized garnishes and "ALAN" pantographing on the frameset and the serial numbering pattern and maybe even within ALAN's numbering sequences.
Thank God the appropriate ALAN decals sets are pretty easy to find, so other than the careful application/alignments I had to do to install the decals using all sorts of images of ALAN Carbonio bikes, it was pretty easy to turn it back into an ALAN Carbonio. Thank God too that Nishiki did not get too picky and demanded ALAN to delete all the "ALAN" pantographing on the frame and fork, as the pantographing is a big deal on these ALAN frames.
Anyway, I think the bike never looked like any Nishiki that was being produced back then and the frameset was dying to get back it's Italian/ALAN Carbonio identity.....:rolleyes:
BTW, I did leave one last Nishiki sourced decal on the frame.... see that one near the headtube saying "Carbon/Kevlar"? I guess that last decal keeps the bike "honest" about its interesting history.....

CMAW 05-02-14 01:05 AM

Gitane had them for a while (pic from the '78 catalogue). Also the Belgian brand Carlos.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/...5fb605bd_b.jpg

Chombi 05-02-14 01:21 AM

The Guerciotti re-labled ALANs were a bit more different from the standard ALANs as Guerciotti had their name pantographed on the framesets, and I don't think any ALAN pantographs were retained.

pullup 05-02-14 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 16720816)
The Guerciotti re-labled ALANs were a bit more different from the standard ALANs as Guerciotti had their name pantographed on the framesets, and I don't think any ALAN pantographs were retained.

Not all of them :)

My Guerciotti still has the Alan panto's and I could not find any extra panto's on it.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2j31d2b.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/33y45uh.png

Italuminium 05-02-14 04:35 AM

Even Ernesto wasn't above a good rebrand or two :)

Colnago Duall Ergal (1988-1989) | velociao

non-fixie 05-02-14 07:20 AM

Azzuri. No panto's.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7ea6b34dfd.jpg


Azzuri is probably an LBS sticker brand from Holland. Many had (and some still have) their own house brand with an Italian-sounding name, like Lanciano, Colnero, Cornelo, Cascarsi, Alimo and Loverdi.

unworthy1 05-02-14 08:01 AM

Thanks guys, we already have some unique entries, at least unusual to us in NoAm: was the Colnago Duall Ergal known to have been an ALAN product? (it sure has some features that would say 'yes', but others I've never seen before on ALANs)
I've also heard about "lady's frame" ALANs, such as the Azzuri, but haven't seen one completely painted in any style.

Keep 'em coming!

Italuminium 05-02-14 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 16721322)
Thanks guys, we already have some unique entries, at least unusual to us in NoAm: was the Colnago Duall Ergal known to have been an ALAN product? (it sure has some features that would say 'yes', but others I've never seen before on ALANs)
I've also heard about "lady's frame" ALANs, such as the Azzuri, but haven't seen one completely painted in any style.

Keep 'em coming!

On classic rendezvous it's stated that the Colnago's were not exactly rebrands, because of the unique features, more like contract builds because ALAN was one of the few companies that could do scroo 'n gloo frames. AFAIK AlAn never made these "bitubo" models for anyone else.

non-fixie 09-05-18 11:46 AM

Just re-discovered this thread and thought I'd add this one to the list. A Bontekoe-branded Alan. More info here.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2fc85112bf.jpg

top506 09-05-18 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by pullup (Post 16720858)
Not all of them :)

My Guerciotti still has the Alan panto's and I could not find any extra panto's on it.

As does mine. Even has 'Record' stamped in the seatpost.

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non-fixie 09-05-18 02:33 PM

[MENTION=216597]CMAW[/MENTION] mentioned the Belgian brand Carlos in post # 3. Here's one that belongs to a friend:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...375030e23f.jpg

Hubertus 01-12-19 11:52 AM

Carrera Carbonio?
 
I recently acquired a Carrera, which is obviously an Alan Record Carbonio. No Alan panto's on the lugs though.

CliffordK 01-12-19 12:06 PM

I think there was a lugged carbon frame by Performance, made by Alan on Craigslist recently, but it seems to be gone now. No fork.

nomadmax 01-12-19 12:12 PM

Does anybody know how the Alan aluminum frames were measured? IE seat tube C to C or C to Top?

Bianchigirll 01-12-19 12:30 PM

Didn't Basso market one?

xiaoman1 01-12-19 03:40 PM

Colnago
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8c4f6f099.png

Here is an ALAN rebranded Colnago
Best, Ben

Chombi1 01-12-19 05:24 PM

Well, possibly a new one to add to the list of re-branded ALANs.
"Milofrance" just posted a pic (In a thread about helping a bike shop owner price C&V CF bikes for sale) on the C&V appraisal forum of a "Peugeot 1000" that is obviously an ALAN Carbonio frame. I say possibly, as I never heard of Peugeot going to ALAN for bikes. It was always Vitus that they used for such, so, unless someone can confirm that the Peugeot/ALAN 1000 did exist, it is a bit questionable...... but could be one of those bikes that was just sold in Europe by Peugeot.

nomadmax 01-13-19 03:31 AM

Here's a pretty rare one; a Tommaso/Alan, complete with a "T" on the lug. Built for Ten Speed Drive Imports as a house brand, "Tommaso" was for the owner's first name. This one is for sale in Lancaster, OH (not mine) and has what appears to be an early version of Campy Syncro. I had one BITD (an Alan) and if I remember correctly, the top tubes were pretty short, also a little too flexy for me. Mine eventually broke at the BB lug which turned me off to the whole screwed and glued thing.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/...785925543.html

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2b616382d.png

crank_addict 01-13-19 10:34 AM

Interesting comments on the Peugeot 1000 team line. From what I've read, the availability was to selective markets and offered early-mid 1990s. (Note: The factory site suggest 1983 as their first carbon frame. This would be the Vitus carbon tubed.) Most consider it AlAN made though others claim Peugeot - in house, sourced lugs from CLB, used slightly larger diameter carbon tubes, bonded and unlike AlAN threaded + bond.

Chombi1 01-13-19 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 20745837)
Interesting comments on the Peugeot 1000 team line. From what I've read, the availability was to selective markets and offered early-mid 1990s. (Note: The factory site suggest 1983 as their first carbon frame. This would be the Vitus carbon tubed.) Most consider it AlAN made though others claim Peugeot - in house, sourced lugs from CLB, used slightly larger diameter carbon tubes, bonded and unlike AlAN threaded + bond.

Peugeot's first CF bike was the PY10FC, and was built to Peugeot's specs in collaboration with Vitus. It shares the same design (But not size. Like Vitus Carbone bikes from the PY10FC time had 23mm seatpost, while the PY10FC had a 25mm seatpost) for lugs, BB shell and stay bridges with Vitus Carbone bikes and nothing from ALAN. The ALAN/Peugeot bike posted up by Milofrance is a mystery Peugeot, at least for us in the US. Never saw it in any 80's catalogues that they issued here. But it might have also come out after Peugeot left the US market in the later 80's.

crank_addict 01-13-19 01:45 PM

Regarding that Peugeot 1000, would've thought they utilized fellow French TVT resources.

The following courtesy of AlAN history. 1976 Toray
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f24e93bac9.jpg

crank_addict 01-13-19 04:46 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f641f75143.png

Carbon Olmo from the online seller 'Steel' Vintage

CliffordK 01-14-19 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Hubertus (Post 20744462)
I recently acquired a Carrera, which is obviously an Alan Record Carbonio. No Alan panto's on the lugs though.

Photos from [MENTION=493655]Hubertus[/MENTION] while he is still a newbie.

https://www.bikeforums.net/g/user/493655
https://www.bikeforums.net/g/album/12422088

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a929bc080.jpghttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1084808114.jpg

crank_addict 01-29-19 10:58 AM

Recently was told of an AlAN made Gitane and one I hope to see very soon. I'm thinking the individual who has it must be mistaken and rather its a Vitus frame. Researching showed very little but here's a few pics from the Gitane site of an AlAN made.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a5e167902e.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd1c1c69ec.jpg


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