Originally Posted by lostarchitect (Post 16902189)

I didn't realize Oddjob was a woman!

Originally Posted by VeryNot (Post 16902053)

"Mansplaining" really is a sexist thing, and I've absolutely experienced it. But I think there's a difference between a guy explaining how things work to the "little lady", and plain old condescension. One assumes that women are incompetent and need to be educated; the other assumes EVERYONE is incompetent and needs to be educated.
Ironically, I've probably over-explained this.

Originally Posted by VeryNot (Post 16902053)

Yup. I'm neither a man nor an expert in bikes, but I am an information horder and LIVE to do research. Additionally, I love sharing knowledge and helping people out. I work in a library, so my passion for research and sharing what I learn is indulged daily. My problem is, I just can't answer a simple question with a simple answer -- I have to give every detail, go back 300 hundred years to map the complete history, drone on and on and on. "Lady, I just needed to know where the Whole Foods is, not that the town was founded by abolitionists in 1842!" I don't mean to sound condescending, but I'm aware I can come off that way sometimes.

"Mansplaining" really is a sexist thing, and I've absolutely experienced it. But I think there's a difference between a guy explaining how things work to the "little lady", and plain old condescension. One assumes that women are incompetent and need to be educated; the other assumes EVERYONE is incompetent and needs to be educated.

And I totally think in a place filled with obsessive geeks, you're going to find the third thing: the person who just can't help themselves from sharing every bit of knowledge they know, including the most elementary stuff, with no harm meant.

Ironically, I've probably over-explained this.

Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 16902441)

I live in a house predominated by women - and it goes both ways. I regularly get schooled on the fine points of handbag purchasing and lip gloss differentiation. Even when I don't ask questions about such things. It's just called 'being around others with different interests'. I hope the term never becomes popular in the lexicon.

Originally Posted by VeryNot (Post 16902528)

Oh absolutely. I don't mind the term so much, because the whole, "young lady, let me tell you how a computer works because your dainty brain can't comprehend anything that isn't pink and smells like kittens..." really does happen. But it's being misapplied in this context to simply mean "condescending", and I'm not even sure most people in a forum like this mean to condescend so much as they are passionate and knowledgeable in a subject area that the general public isn't.

What grinds me more are snarky answers to noob questions that add nothing, not even humor. The sole purpose is just to declare, "wow you're an idiot for not knowing this..." And to be fair, I see very little of this in this forum.

Bringing it back to the C&V forum, I see very little condescension and snark, and lots of helpful, detailed advice. Some people are more abrupt than others, some have more patience, and some are cranks. No big deal. That's dealing with people for you. If I ask a question and I get 10 helpful answers and one snarky, I don't care. I'm happy 10 people took the time to answer.

Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 16902194)

Ah, speakerphone mute. Perfect for talking to engineers and ex-wives on the phone.

Originally Posted by etherhuffer (Post 16902525)

No! You are an information collector, not hoarder. Information hoarders tend to be in IT or engineering, from countries where small amounts of information have great value or great consequence. I work in health care, and two Asian nations have this tendency in spades. The conversation is totally one sided. You talk and ask questions to no avail and no response. When you finally give your summation, a torrent of talk questioning your opinion comes roaring out. They hoard information, use it, but don't share it. Many countries, especially poor or developing countries, have win-lose interactions. We are win-win here. We want both parties to win. Not like that everywhere! To share information is to "lose" in many cultures.

Originally Posted by etherhuffer (Post 16902525)

No! You are an information collector, not hoarder. Information hoarders tend to be in IT or engineering, from countries where small amounts of information have great value or great consequence. I work in health care, and two Asian nations have this tendency in spades. The conversation is totally one sided. You talk and ask questions to no avail and no response. When you finally give your summation, a torrent of talk questioning your opinion comes roaring out. They hoard information, use it, but don't share it. Many countries, especially poor or developing countries, have win-lose interactions. We are win-win here. We want both parties to win. Not like that everywhere! To share information is to "lose" in many cultures.

Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 16902949)

is it me? it's me, i just know it. it's me, isn't it? you can tell me if it's me. it is me, isn't it? i knew it! why couldn't you tell me? you can tell me. it's me, isn't it? why didn't you tell me? why now? why wait all this time? it's me, isn't it? i knew it!

[scene]

Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 16902208)

i don't think I ever mansplaine here,.......... but I do have to apologize boring many here with my endless drivel.....:rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 16902815)

Someone else just made my ignore list.....

Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 16903008)

Some day, maybe you'll add me. I'd be honored. ;)

Originally Posted by sloar (Post 16901168)

is it my lack of capital letters and punctuations

Originally Posted by Sir_Name (Post 16902673)

This rings true in the engineering world as well. I'll stop there.
Actually, I won't. Given the choice between too much information and too little, I know where my preference lies. I couldn't care less about condecention - that's 'their' problem.

Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16901071)

But a few grate me with their writing style or tone.

Originally Posted by Bandera (Post 16903227)

Perhaps you could tell us which Style Guide you prefer posters In C&V to use:
....
I prefer APA, but that's just my from my certification requirements.

-Bandera

Originally Posted by Bandera (Post 16903227)

Perhaps you could tell us which Style Guide you prefer posters In C&V to use:

Introduction - Style Manuals & Writing Guides - LibGuides at CSU Los Angeles

I prefer APA, but that's just my from my certification requirements.

-Bandera