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oddjob2 07-02-14 06:51 AM

Now I Know
 
Most C & V frequent contributors are great guys you'd enjoy a malt beverage with. But a few grate me with their writing style or tone.

Well it turns out, there is have a word for it, MANSPLAINING. As a courtesy to us all, turn it off when contributing!

Dave Cutter 07-02-14 06:57 AM

Interesting.

miamijim 07-02-14 07:18 AM

Whatever.

There's also a feature called 'block'

sloar 07-02-14 07:27 AM

is it my lack of capital letters and punctuations

CroMo Mike 07-02-14 07:28 AM

The proper response to an overly in-depth explanation of something we all probably know is "Yes, we too have the (derailleur bicycle (or whatever) ) in the village I am from!"

:)

auchencrow 07-02-14 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16901071)
Most C & V frequent contributors are great guys you'd enjoy a malt beverage with. But a few grate me with their writing style or tone.

Well it turns out, there is have a word for it, MANSPLAINING. As a courtesy to us all, turn it off when contributing!

I try to treat all other C&V'ers just like family; like when my young daughter needs special guidance or correction, I'm always here to help. :)

cyclotoine 07-02-14 10:04 AM

I am probably one of those people.

Lascauxcaveman 07-02-14 10:14 AM

I find myself doing this a bit when I get the impression the OP is really new and needs to start at the absolute beginning, not somewhere in the middle.

"OK, the seat tube is the tube that the seatpost goes into..."

jimmuller 07-02-14 10:35 AM

Mansplaining? Never heard of it. Glad you 'splained it to me. Thanks! :)

miamijim 07-02-14 11:04 AM

I just added someone to block list. Good riddance.

Velocivixen 07-02-14 11:14 AM

There's a "Block" option!?

kehomer 07-02-14 11:18 AM

:banned:

Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 16901859)
I just added someone to block list. Good riddance.

Is that anything like excommunicating a sinner?

WNG 07-02-14 11:25 AM

Hmm, interesting term. But it can be confused with someone who always provides a wordy, detailed and very verbage explanation. As a geek, I tend to do so. Gender independent. ;)

autoteacher 07-02-14 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16901071)
Most C & V frequent contributors are great guys you'd enjoy a malt beverage with. But a few grate me with their writing style or tone.

Well it turns out, there is have a word for it, MANSPLAINING. As a courtesy to us all, turn it off when contributing!

"rooted in the assumption that, in general, a man is likely to be more knowledgeable than a woman."

I owned a foreign car repair shop for a very long time and I can assure you, beyond a doubt, that men THINK they know more than women about things mechanical. Most men are full of --it. Women make NO assumptions and most will ask how and why. Once a mechanism is explained to them, in even the most fundamental way they will thank you and make an informed decision. Men will argue, tell you to perform the repairs according to their "diagnosis" then whine when it doesn't fix the car.

I'll spare my opinion of the responses I got when I asked: "What leads you to believe that your car needs a "thingamabob?"

kehomer 07-02-14 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by oddjob2 (Post 16901071)
Most C & V frequent contributors are great guys you'd enjoy a malt beverage with. But a few grate me with their writing style or tone.

Well it turns out, there is have a word for it, MANSPLAINING. As a courtesy to us all, turn it off when contributing!

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!:o

gaucho777 07-02-14 11:47 AM

[MENTION=305894]oddjob2[/MENTION]: I'm not certain I follow your complaint. Are you put off by general style & condescending tone, or is this specifically about gender and misogyny?

(One may not agree with all of her political viewpoints, but I can say from personal experience that Rebecca Solnit is a kind, generous, passionate, and intelligent person--and a very gifted writer.)

Kactus 07-02-14 11:53 AM

I find it worse when someone writes something assuming everyone knows what they are talking about. Having worked in the engineering field, I learned to read all of my writing trying to view it from the eyes of someone who was new to the subject prior to sending it out. It wasn't to be condescending but to insure that all questions, requests, requirements and specs were free from misunderstandings and assumptions on the receiving end.

VeryNot 07-02-14 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by WNG (Post 16901949)
Hmm, interesting term. But it can be confused with someone who always provides a wordy, detailed and very verbage explanation. As a geek, I tend to do so. Gender independent. ;)

Yup. I'm neither a man nor an expert in bikes, but I am an information horder and LIVE to do research. Additionally, I love sharing knowledge and helping people out. I work in a library, so my passion for research and sharing what I learn is indulged daily. My problem is, I just can't answer a simple question with a simple answer -- I have to give every detail, go back 300 hundred years to map the complete history, drone on and on and on. "Lady, I just needed to know where the Whole Foods is, not that the town was founded by abolitionists in 1842!" I don't mean to sound condescending, but I'm aware I can come off that way sometimes.

"Mansplaining" really is a sexist thing, and I've absolutely experienced it. But I think there's a difference between a guy explaining how things work to the "little lady", and plain old condescension. One assumes that women are incompetent and need to be educated; the other assumes EVERYONE is incompetent and needs to be educated.

And I totally think in a place filled with obsessive geeks, you're going to find the third thing: the person who just can't help themselves from sharing every bit of knowledge they know, including the most elementary stuff, with no harm meant.

Ironically, I've probably over-explained this.

Darth Lefty 07-02-14 12:08 PM

Like when someone says aluminum has a fatigue limit, and you instantly reach yours?

miamijim 07-02-14 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by kehomer (Post 16901922)
:banned:

Is that anything like excommunicating a sinner?

I like that gif/emoticon.... considering I see it it's safe to say it wasn't you!!!

nlerner 07-02-14 12:35 PM

oddjobbing = starting threads that have nothing to do with C&V bicycles or bicycles at all, for that matter.

lostarchitect 07-02-14 12:43 PM

I didn't realize Oddjob was a woman!

RobbieTunes 07-02-14 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by auchencrow (Post 16901182)
I try to treat all other C&V'ers just like family... :)

Send me a card at Christmas, then, and leave me alone otherwise. Let me know if someone dies. :innocent:
I actually give a lot more time to C&V. There's less risk involved.


Originally Posted by WNG (Post 16901949)
Hmm, interesting term. But it can be confused with someone who always provides a wordy, detailed and very verbage explanation. As a geek, I tend to do so. Gender independent. ;)

Ah, speakerphone mute. Perfect for talking to engineers and ex-wives on the phone.

Chombi 07-02-14 12:47 PM

i don't think I ever mansplaine here,.......... but I do have to apologize boring many here with my endless drivel.....:rolleyes::D

kc0yef 07-02-14 12:48 PM

Look under the Hat


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