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Originally Posted by Road Fan
(Post 16903285)
This is C&V, it has to be Strunk and White.
Put statements in positive form: "Overhaul all bearings surfaces for smooth performance." Make definite assertions: "Don't buy a bent fork pseudo-PX10 re-paint." Proceed. -Bandera |
Strunk and White! Ha! The French and other cultures are just the exact opposite. Ask a direct question in France and see how far you get! Ask for specific directions in Manila and see how close to your destination you get! We value directness and concise answers. Not every culture does.....
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I think the need for concise, straight answers came from climes where you can't stand around too long waiting for one, or you will freeze your butt off and die. I lived in such a place and its called "Northern Wisconsin".......
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Originally Posted by Chombi
(Post 16903496)
I think the need for concise, straight answers came from climes where you can't stand around too long waiting for one, or you will freeze your butt off and die. I lived in such a place and its called "Northern Wisconsin".......
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Originally Posted by Kactus
(Post 16902052)
I find it worse when someone writes something assuming everyone knows what they are talking about. Having worked in the engineering field, I learned to read all of my writing trying to view it from the eyes of someone who was new to the subject prior to sending it out. It wasn't to be condescending but to insure that all questions, requests, requirements and specs were free from misunderstandings and assumptions on the receiving end.
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Ricky Ricardo: "Luceee, come down here! You got some splainin to dooo!"
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Thank you all for the humor!
My initial reaction to the article was negative with its sexism and political bias. My thoughts were to express that but I decided I couldn't add any value for others or myself. I too couldn't see the relationship to C&V bikes, so didn't want to distract with my comments. Like so often happens, these little side subjects end up being several pages long! Like they have a life of their own for a short period of time. We get to know one another better with the reading, resulting in appreciating others more, maybe less (hopefully not!). There is a difference between being tolerant and accepting. I try do both, so I haven't blocked anyone yet, just tolerate reading through it to get to the gems. Thank you all for the treasure you provide in this forum! Sometimes it is therapeutic, enlightening, a self-discovery and/or a paradigm shift! And its FREE! |
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The story about Rebecca Solnit being "mansplained" about her own book is horse-puckey. I think there's a word for when authors make up anecdotes to promote their viewpoint- "fraudiction".
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So many new terminology for this old fart cyclist to learn!
The pendulum swings both ways. The world is aplenty with alpha males and females who are legends in their own minds. The strength of this forum has been its contributors. It's been a wonderful place to return to daily since 2007, to learn, enlighten and brighten my day. To check in and see how the regulars are doing. Because I'm interested and care about their lives and endeavors. I've made friends and connections over the years, and have seen an outreach of help and support that may not have been so readily in other online communities. I recall the combined efforts to help evacuate Lenton58 and his family from Sendai after the nuclear plant disaster. The celebration of news of births of daughters and sons to new forumite parents. The out pour of help and charity to those who fell on hard times, bad fortune and health. I personally have been touched in this way. There is a diversity, depth and dimension to the C&V forum because of its members and their tolerance, patience, and generosity. Had this place been a rigidly defined and regulated forum discussing old ten speeds only, it would have been dry and stale, and I would have left ages ago. I've stayed because it's one of the best experiences online. |
Originally Posted by cycle_maven
(Post 16904871)
The story about Rebecca Solnit being "mansplained" about her own book is horse-puckey. I think there's a word for when authors make up anecdotes to promote their viewpoint- "fraudiction".
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I still call the "step-through" frames girls bikes. :) :)
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+1, [MENTION=13284]OldsCOOL[/MENTION]
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
(Post 16905253)
I still call the "step-through" frames girls bikes. :) :)
Both sustained injuries that prevented them from lifting their legs over the saddle. Both refused to give up cycling, so it was a pleasure to set up the bikes properly to get them back on the road. |
Originally Posted by WNG
(Post 16905378)
LOL! Try saying that to the two customers I sold step-through Giant Cypresses to, who are a Gulf War vet and a former British rubgy player.
Both sustained injuries that prevented them from lifting their legs over the saddle. Both refused to give up cycling, so it was a pleasure to set up the bikes properly to get them back on the road. |
Originally Posted by cycle_maven
(Post 16904871)
The story about Rebecca Solnit being "mansplained" about her own book is horse-puckey. I think there's a word for when authors make up anecdotes to promote their viewpoint- "fraudiction".
Generally though, if there is a true dialog happening (as is generally the case on our forums) mansplaining won't likely take place. It is when someone is so arrogant that they do not allow room for discussion and blab on and on about their own knowledge or ideas. When in reality those ideas, or that knowledge, is worth little because they do not know as much as they think they do. On the other hand, when there is an actual conversation taking place (an open exchange of ideas and knowledge, as usually happens here) the person who thinks they know more than everyone else will likely realize quite quickly that they are not the smartest person in the room and thus mansplaining will not occur. |
Originally Posted by acoffin
(Post 16907452)
do you have any basis for this disbelief? It seems like a perfectly plausible story to me. One point that i think some people are missing, mansplaining is not the act of explaining things in a very basic way. Mansplaining is not a person explaining how a bicycle works to someone who does not have a lot of know how a bicycle works. A mansplainer is a guy who reads about how to make beer and then goes and goes over to tell a professional brewer about the a proper brewing method for an ipa.
Generally though, if there is a true dialog happening (as is generally the case on our forums) mansplaining won't likely take place. It is when someone is so arrogant that they do not allow room for discussion and blab on and on about their own knowledge or ideas. When in reality those ideas, or that knowledge, is worth little because they do not know as much as they think they do. On the other hand, when there is an actual conversation taking place (an open exchange of ideas and knowledge, as usually happens here) the person who thinks they know more than everyone else will likely realize quite quickly that they are not the smartest person in the room and thus mansplaining will not occur. |
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