What's the use for this bolt on the back of the headtube?
#3
multimodal commuter
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,810
Likes: 597
From: NJ, NYC, LI
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Other possibilities... holding a race number? Or is it an oil port for the headset? I'm not convinced by those ideas either.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
www.rhmsaddles.com.
#5
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 13
From: Hopkinton, MA
Bikes: 1938 Raleigh Record Ace (2), 1938 Schwinn Paramount, 1961 Torpado, 1964? Frejus, 1980 Raleigh 753 Team Pro, Moulton, other stuff...
#6
Decrepit Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 10,488
Likes: 94
From: Santa Rosa, California
Bikes: Waterford 953 RS-22, several Paramounts
This is strictly a guess, but it might be to secure the fork steerer tube to prevent the fork/front wheel from swinging from side to side when it's being carried. That could prevent the handlebar from hitting the top tube, for example. Check the steerer tube to see if it has a small indentation where that bolt would match up.
#8
#9
Senior Member

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 659
Likes: 105
From: Long Island, NY
Well, now that I've seen different angles to get a NICE VIEW of it, I agree with the lube theory. However, it had to have been applied with some sort of hand/squeeze pump in order to get it in there. Similar to one I used on my cars back in the early 70's to apply grease to areas otherwise impossible to get to.
#10
Actually, though some do look like grease zerks, I believe they were meant for oil. At first I thought they squeezed the head tubes full of grease, but read differently several years ago, somewhere. It may have old ties to racing as you mostly see these on vintage 40's to 60's racing bikes, I think. Old grease may not have had the properties we're used to today, so they had to "doctor " it occasionally to keep it working.
That's my theory anyway. Probably misguided BS.
That's my theory anyway. Probably misguided BS.
#11
Bianchi Goddess



Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,976
Likes: 4,245
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.
I agree with lubing and the zerk fitting or whatever missing. The position seems wrong for a pumpeg.
Looks like a great bike any other pics?
Looks like a great bike any other pics?
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
#12
curmudgineer
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,417
Likes: 113
From: Chicago SW burbs
Bikes: 2 many 2 fit here
A zerk fitting for grease? Sounds like grease everywhere, and a big mess, to me. On frames I've inspected, there are holes that allow the head tube to communicate with the top and down tubes, so the grease or other lube would not be constrained to remain within the head tube. Maybe the frames with such a fitting do not have these communication holes.
#13
Lost at sea...
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 935
Likes: 2
From: Western PA
Bikes: Schwinn Paramount (match), Trek 520, random bits and pieces...
Not buying the zerk fitting idea, at all... that would take a lot of grease and application is extremely indirect. Filling the headtube with grease? Really?
Grease hasn't changed that much in the last 50 years. Even if you go to an extreme, before lithium grease was common, what they used wouldn't be all that different from what is being used for general lubrication today. Grease has gotten better for high temps, extremely high loads, longevity, and wider spectrum of use... but the fundamental properties for a non-disc wheel bearing type of grease hasn't changed much.
Actually, though some do look like grease zerks, I believe they were meant for oil. At first I thought they squeezed the head tubes full of grease, but read differently several years ago, somewhere. It may have old ties to racing as you mostly see these on vintage 40's to 60's racing bikes, I think. Old grease may not have had the properties we're used to today, so they had to "doctor " it occasionally to keep it working.
That's my theory anyway. Probably misguided BS.
That's my theory anyway. Probably misguided BS.
Last edited by headloss; 09-03-14 at 06:25 PM.
#14
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,754
Likes: 17
As said it's for dripping oil into the head-tube. The version on the Frejus is not a zerk fitting for grease. Just spring loaded ball-check. You use a oil can with those. Grease would dry out. You could revitalize it with some oil. Same for hubs and bottom brackets.
#15
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 404
Likes: 2
From: Carlstadt, NJ
This. It's an oiler. It would have been standard equipment on a lot of mechanical devices from that era. Quite often the spring ball would break and a screw would replace the device.
#16
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 859
Likes: 10
Bikes: Cinelli SC 1971, Daccordi 1985
https://www.flickr.com/photos/604281...57626240964030
Similar here, but without the oil port:
Museum bikes from 1945 to 1965 | Classic Cycle Bainbridge Island Kitsap County















