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Old 03-15-15, 12:23 PM
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If one has a camp stove with replaceable jets, might be able to acquire various sizes to burn different fuels. The old MSR I have can run on kerosene, white gas, and low grade gasoline. I prefer the white gas for low odor, gasoline the most convenient and cheap, but the kero is by far the safest to carry. Really nothing elaborate about it and probably could make a homemade version of one. The only part that might of concern is a proper pump to pressurize the canister.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
I bought the Porlex Mini Grinder. The Epicureancyclist blog (local guy) has reviews on bike/camping items, so I read his. As this is Portland I went over to Stumptown Coffee Roasters and they have both the Porlex as well as the Aeropress. Here's the link for the Porlex Vs Hario grinder review. His Blog has a TON of reviews/info., not just bike and camping, but camera, fly fishing, etc. He & his wife have a blog called Path Less Pedaled, and both are excellent.

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I prefer a percolator to drip, but I've used both. What heats it is more interesting.

Sometimes I've used a Trangia 28


Sometimes it's been an Optimus 99


The tried and true Optimus 00



And even the venerable Svea 123


Sold this M-1945 recently. A bit of overkill for cycle touring but made things hot in a hurry.
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I took a long tour in 1981, and the youth hostels had tea pots but no coffee pots. I boiled coffee in a saucepan and filtered it with a bandana. It came out like turkish coffee, which wasn't too bad.
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Also known as cowboy coffee.
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Of course you can't find your Trioxane tablets when you want them, so I used some tea light stand ins.

This looks like something my older brothers would have made from a ******* can and few heat tablets.

( I can't say saltine *******?)






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I was given these as a gift to get me started.
Esbit Compact Stove by velocivixen, on FlickrCamping Pot by velocivixen, on Flickr


Now I have no excuse but to pack up my Carradice Barley and go on an adventure down by the Tualatin River. I will grind beans while the fire boils the water. I will make sure to photo and report back.
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Originally Posted by Peugeotlover
Also known as cowboy coffee.
Cowboy coffee wasn't filtered. If you boil it long enough, the grounds sink. Or mostly.
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Cowboy coffee wasn't filtered. If you boil it long enough, the grounds sink. Or mostly.
(Thanks for the instructions for the Primus; I'll give it a try some warm evening soon, when I can set it up outside. I think I will try using up that old fuel, rather than buy more... once I know how to do it, I will clean the thing and put it away pending my next bike tour. And then I'll probably take my alcohol burning hobo stove anyway. It's just so easy.)

Now to the coffee thing; has anyone tried that old Swedish method, that involves an egg? It was described to me by a friend who was actually from Sweden, who stated that this method is no longer popular in Sweden, though I gather the tradition lasted longer in North America, as immigrant traditions often do. You boil your water, then mix into it a half cup of coffee mixed up with one egg --a whole egg, shell and all, crushed and ground together with the coffee. Boil for a few minutes longer, then pour in a little cold water. The cold water makes the egg and the coffee grounds precipitate in the form of a nasty brown lump that you should definitely not let the dog eat, and the remaining liquid is Swedish coffee. I... uh... I haven't tried it.
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I use this for backpacking. They ship from China, they seem comparable to the $30 pocket rocket. You can get them from multiple vendors, I don't know if this is who I purchased from.
Amazon.com : Ultralight Backpacking Canister Camp Stove with Piezo Ignition 3.9oz (silvery Stove and orange box) : Sports & Outdoors

For coffee I would use a moka.

but returning to the vintage aspect. I found this in the garbage last summer and restored it (stripped, painted, rehabbed the leather seal), too heavy for anything other than car camping but it seems at home in this in the classic and vintage. I think it is from 1962 based upon the research I did.
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Cowboy coffee, (and never heard it traced back to Sweden, but who knows which was chicken and which was egg), does involve a little egg addition to precipitate the grounds. The way we made it, and how we was taught by some genuine Cow-punchers as well as some phoney ones, was to add a piece of shell (and since you were simultaneously fryin' up a mess o' eggs you always had this on hand) to the pot of nearly-boiling water and floating coffee grounds as you took it off the heat.
let it set fur spell and then pour into enameled steel mugs.
The science around this is that the egg white (albumen) that clung to the shell was what made the grounds clump and sink...adding a whole egg would be a waste as well as over-kill, and the shell doesn't do anything but transfer the albumen. Some science-guy told us that whopper...yee-haw!
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Originally Posted by noglider
I took a long tour in 1981, and the youth hostels had tea pots but no coffee pots. I boiled coffee in a saucepan and filtered it with a bandana. It came out like turkish coffee, which wasn't too bad.
Let me guess, you drank sweaty coffee?
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I gotta try that, @unworthy1.
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Cowboy coffee isn't good, that's why there are so many better ways to make coffee.

I gotta put in another plug for Jetboil. I know it's not remotely C&V but it has an induction coil igniter, will boil a half liter of water in 2 minutes, and packages entirely within its pot. There is a coffee press lid available for the pot.
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I had always heard the trick for cowboy coffee was to drop a small stone into the pot just before serving to settle the grounds. Cowboy coffee, it seems, is the same as French press coffee, except for the press part to separate the grounds.
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Cowboy coffee wasn't filtered. If you boil it long enough, the grounds sink. Or mostly.
Or just make Turkish coffee, sort of the same thing, see: How to make Turkish Coffee with detailed instructions If you like strong coffee this is how it's done.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
Cowboy coffee, it seems, is the same as French press coffee, except for the press part to separate the grounds.
No, you boil coffee grinds to make cowboy coffee. With a french press, you pour boiling water over grinds and let them sit without applying heat.
@Chuckk, very interesting!
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Originally Posted by noglider
No, you boil coffee grinds to make cowboy coffee.
Yes, and boiling coffee ruins it even if the cowboys did it that way.
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Yes, and boiling coffee ruins it even if the cowboys did it that way.
Or perhaps because they did?
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Yeah. Cowboy coffee isn't ideal. But when it's what's poured for you and all there is...
The times I've had it it wasn't half bad. Made by someone I knew in Wyoming in a tall blue enameled pot like shown above.
She made good coffee.
But she wasn't a cowboy.
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Yes, and boiling coffee ruins it even if the cowboys did it that way.
Yup, boiling coffee makes the coffee bitter with a burnt taste, French Press, Espresso, Turkish, Moka Pots, or coffee drip does not boil the coffee; the Moka pot people think boils the water but it's made to extract the water just before it boils up the tube and then sprays it down onto the coffee grinds, but people have been known to leave a Moka Pot on too long and over cook the coffee. Moka Pots are also great to take camping because they do make them small, but being made of stainless steel its heavier than an Aeropress and some tourists might balk at the extra weight.

I think, just my theory, cowboy coffee was done originally because being that a lot of them were from other countries probably knew about how Turkish coffee was made, then somewhere along the line the instructions got blurred and people started to boil the coffee. Again it's just my theory, but if you read the instruction for cowboy coffee it's very similar to the Turkish method; see: How to Make Cowboy Coffee: 13 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow If you look at the Turkish instructions I posted earlier you'll see they're similar, so with cowboy coffee all you do is simply remove the pot just before it begins to boil so you don't get the bitterness of over cooked coffee...ala Turkish coffee. Here are reasons for bitter coffee, by changing some variables you can get a strong but smooth cup of coffee; see: Three reasons why your cup of coffee tastes bitter - Baristador Coffee | The Spirit Of Espresso
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Golly!! 148 posts on making camp coffee. When will spring arrive so we all just git out and crank em.

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I used to tour frequently with a Turm Sport, a vintage German alcohol burner that was and still is superlative. 99% isopropal alcohol is available everywhere and the gravity fed superheated fuel lines work a charm. O to boiling point in a few minutes. I have two of these yard sale stoves and paid very little for them.
This is so cool!
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