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08-25-18, 02:16 PM
#102
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I think I water-bonked today... just flat ran out of gas with 5 miles to go and was too lazy to stop for water. How effed up is that?
Could also just be out of shape. Or both.
Could also just be out of shape. Or both.
08-25-18, 05:30 PM
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I hiked today; short and easy training for the Lakes in a couple of weeks.
Bike related; hand-built vs. Factory wheels. Discuss
08-25-18, 05:45 PM
#104
Non omnino gravis
Hand-built all the way. I've never had an off-the-rack wheel stay true for more than 2-3 months (meaning 1,000-1,500 miles) before needing tweaking. I have two sets of hand-built wheels from Prowheelbuilder.com (out of Atlanta) both built around their in-house (read: Chinese) hubs and Kinlin XR31 hoops. The set on my Ritchey has been touched exactly once, when destroyed the rear hoop during a blowout and had it rebuilt onto a new hoop. Never required any other adjustment-- meaning the front wheel is still running true after 10,000 miles.
The set on my Cervelo remain completely untouched, after an admittedly small ~1,000 miles, but I only just got them for Father's Day. And when a quite good set of hand-built can be had for around $500 shipped, I see no reason to look elsewhere.
Unrelated, I rode my ninth metric century today. My ninth... in the month of August. I have this creeping worry that all of my tires and chains are going to decide to wear out all at once.
The set on my Cervelo remain completely untouched, after an admittedly small ~1,000 miles, but I only just got them for Father's Day. And when a quite good set of hand-built can be had for around $500 shipped, I see no reason to look elsewhere.
Unrelated, I rode my ninth metric century today. My ninth... in the month of August. I have this creeping worry that all of my tires and chains are going to decide to wear out all at once.
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08-25-18, 06:15 PM
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Hand-built all the way. I've never had an off-the-rack wheel stay true for more than 2-3 months (meaning 1,000-1,500 miles) before needing tweaking. I have two sets of hand-built wheels from Prowheelbuilder.com (out of Atlanta) both built around their in-house (read: Chinese) hubs and Kinlin XR31 hoops. The set on my Ritchey has been touched exactly once, when destroyed the rear hoop during a blowout and had it rebuilt onto a new hoop. Never required any other adjustment-- meaning the front wheel is still running true after 10,000 miles.
The set on my Cervelo remain completely untouched, after an admittedly small ~1,000 miles, but I only just got them for Father's Day. And when a quite good set of hand-built can be had for around $500 shipped, I see no reason to look elsewhere.
Unrelated, I rode my ninth metric century today. My ninth... in the month of August. I have this creeping worry that all of my tires and chains are going to decide to wear out all at once.
The set on my Cervelo remain completely untouched, after an admittedly small ~1,000 miles, but I only just got them for Father's Day. And when a quite good set of hand-built can be had for around $500 shipped, I see no reason to look elsewhere.
Unrelated, I rode my ninth metric century today. My ninth... in the month of August. I have this creeping worry that all of my tires and chains are going to decide to wear out all at once.
Nice work on the metrics. I keep trying to get to one and can't QUITE get there solo. Just havne't recovered QUITE enough...
08-25-18, 07:43 PM
#106
Non omnino gravis
I run 24/24 on the disc bike and 20/24 on the rim bike, and no problems carrying me at 200+. I had originally ordered 16/20, but they were out of the hubs, so I went 20/24. I haven’t really noticed the gain of 20g or so per wheel.
08-25-18, 10:14 PM
#108
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24/24 is pretty much the minimum for discs IMO, unless you're trying to prove something and throw down Fernweg money, which I believe to be cause for institutionalization.
I've already destroyed... five(?) wheels in my short riding history, so a big nope to carbon wheels for me. It's not so bad replacing an $80 hoop. If I had carbon wheel money in-hand, I'd probably buy another bike.
I've already destroyed... five(?) wheels in my short riding history, so a big nope to carbon wheels for me. It's not so bad replacing an $80 hoop. If I had carbon wheel money in-hand, I'd probably buy another bike.
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08-26-18, 12:17 PM
#109
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I have two sets of stupid low spoke count wheels... but if they didn't come preconfigured that way, I'd probably go with 24x28 for my rim braking requirements. As Dr I says, there's really no point in going less than that, the weight difference is minimal.
But hand built, definitely.
But hand built, definitely.
08-26-18, 02:44 PM
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08-26-18, 02:48 PM
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08-26-18, 04:06 PM
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08-26-18, 04:44 PM
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I've already destroyed... five(?) wheels in my short riding history, so a big nope to carbon wheels for me. It's not so bad replacing an $80 hoop. If I had carbon wheel money in-hand, I'd probably buy another bike.
I’m a bad bicyclist.
08-26-18, 05:05 PM
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I made it over 2 years living the N = 1 life. Then I lost a couple of weeks to a broken frame, then a busted wheel, then another busted wheel... finally, the wife said, "You ride way too much to live with just one bike." And that was N+1.
I go back and forth quite evenly between the two-- in 2018 I've got 3,000 on one and 3,300 on the other. I've now concluded that 2 bikes is the minimum-- because then chances are good at least one will always be working.
And I'm actually at N=3, really. I built up a bike for my son out of pieces on hand... and he's never ridden it. I've put around 200 miles on it. It's the only bike I allow myself to ride on days I'm not supposed to ride. The Forced Recovery Bike.
I go back and forth quite evenly between the two-- in 2018 I've got 3,000 on one and 3,300 on the other. I've now concluded that 2 bikes is the minimum-- because then chances are good at least one will always be working.
And I'm actually at N=3, really. I built up a bike for my son out of pieces on hand... and he's never ridden it. I've put around 200 miles on it. It's the only bike I allow myself to ride on days I'm not supposed to ride. The Forced Recovery Bike.
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08-26-18, 08:10 PM
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08-26-18, 09:02 PM
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I made it over 2 years living the N = 1 life. Then I lost a couple of weeks to a broken frame, then a busted wheel, then another busted wheel... finally, the wife said, "You ride way too much to live with just one bike." And that was N+1.
I go back and forth quite evenly between the two-- in 2018 I've got 3,000 on one and 3,300 on the other. I've now concluded that 2 bikes is the minimum-- because then chances are good at least one will always be working.
And I'm actually at N=3, really. I built up a bike for my son out of pieces on hand... and he's never ridden it. I've put around 200 miles on it. It's the only bike I allow myself to ride on days I'm not supposed to ride. The Forced Recovery Bike.
I go back and forth quite evenly between the two-- in 2018 I've got 3,000 on one and 3,300 on the other. I've now concluded that 2 bikes is the minimum-- because then chances are good at least one will always be working.
And I'm actually at N=3, really. I built up a bike for my son out of pieces on hand... and he's never ridden it. I've put around 200 miles on it. It's the only bike I allow myself to ride on days I'm not supposed to ride. The Forced Recovery Bike.
I don't ride quite (or even close to!) that much, and I actually have 3 bikes -- the Trek X-Cal MTB, the Giant Defy 3, and the Bianchi. I will admit that I had the same feeling about needing two whenever I'd have to do any work on the Ridley while I had it, and that having the Defy to sit on a trainer for when I don't have time to get out and want something more structured is good.
Right now, they're even all roadbikes. The MTB has gravel slicks on it (42mm slicks, but still). In the past I've usually just done more MTB riding when the roadbike was down, but I'm a little afraid of loading my hip that much again yet.
4 bikes seems ... a bit excessive. Unless they're motorbikes (or you're @jsigone). Then 4 is obviously a good number, and 1 for the girlfriend. Not, of course, that this is anything to do with the number of motorbikes we have between us....
In other news. I'm glad my bias towards handbuilts is validated
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08-26-18, 10:49 PM
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On wheels, these look intriguing, I "need" a set of road wheels/tires for the Niner. I'd probably go for 28/28. Thoughts?
https://novemberbicycles.com/collect...=8131046408285
I rode two rides yesterday for a total of 90 miles, then did 42 today with OC Wheelmen. So I blew up my 9 hours per week to 10:43 this week. I must say I was dragging a bit this morning. Finished my second ride last night at 10:00 pm, had to be ready to roll at 0800 this morning. Felt good once I got rolling but I think my 60 yr old body would prefer a bit more recovery time.
@TrojanHorse, how can you be too lazy to stop for water? That's messed up.
https://novemberbicycles.com/collect...=8131046408285
I rode two rides yesterday for a total of 90 miles, then did 42 today with OC Wheelmen. So I blew up my 9 hours per week to 10:43 this week. I must say I was dragging a bit this morning. Finished my second ride last night at 10:00 pm, had to be ready to roll at 0800 this morning. Felt good once I got rolling but I think my 60 yr old body would prefer a bit more recovery time.
@TrojanHorse, how can you be too lazy to stop for water? That's messed up.
08-26-18, 10:55 PM
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4 bikes seems ... a bit excessive. Unless they're motorbikes (or you're @jsigone). Then 4 is obviously a good number, and 1 for the girlfriend. Not, of course, that this is anything to do with the number of motorbikes we have between us....
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08-26-18, 10:56 PM
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Non omnino gravis
At 36mm deep, really no need for 28 spokes in the front-- the 24 will be plenty. I've been riding 24/24 on 31mm deep wheels for 10,000 miles.
It's good to see you blow out your weekly 9 hour average. I retake my crown as WEEKLY CONSISTENCY KING!! I mean... them digits.
It's good to see you blow out your weekly 9 hour average. I retake my crown as WEEKLY CONSISTENCY KING!! I mean... them digits.
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08-26-18, 11:13 PM
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Normal Rotation
Pinarello Gan S - everyday style bike, go fast mood
Spesh Langter Singlespeed/fG - wanna make my legs suffer on hills days
Fuji Altamira CX with 38s - plush rider for recovery days but the fat tires makes me works to go fast, great for mixed surfaces
MTB
Santa Cruz Chameleon 27+ setup - ride few times a week, mixed XC and small jumps/drops
Cdale lefty F29 - race rig, only comes out to race because the chameleon is so much funner/comfy to ride
Family rides at the park
Sunday Model C 24" BMX
Hanging on the rafters
Felt F4 roadie, I have about 8k miles on this rig, about 15# flat (should sell it when not lazy, mixed SRAM force/Red group and spinergy PBO wheelset)
Schwinn Circuit 1987 Columbus steel w/ downtube shifter and manly man gearing (won't sell, pretty darn hard to find in 56cm and paid only $160 for it in 2011)
Spesh Rockhopper SL singlespeed MTB - setup rigid so beats me up and 20#s, haven't rode much cuz a car broke my shoulder in 2014, was my goto MTB race bike , short and long courses)
WeThePeople 4seasons 20" Chromo steel BMX, needs tires and brakes mounted (skate park bike)
Pinarello Gan S - everyday style bike, go fast mood
Spesh Langter Singlespeed/fG - wanna make my legs suffer on hills days
Fuji Altamira CX with 38s - plush rider for recovery days but the fat tires makes me works to go fast, great for mixed surfaces
MTB
Santa Cruz Chameleon 27+ setup - ride few times a week, mixed XC and small jumps/drops
Cdale lefty F29 - race rig, only comes out to race because the chameleon is so much funner/comfy to ride
Family rides at the park
Sunday Model C 24" BMX
Hanging on the rafters
Felt F4 roadie, I have about 8k miles on this rig, about 15# flat (should sell it when not lazy, mixed SRAM force/Red group and spinergy PBO wheelset)
Schwinn Circuit 1987 Columbus steel w/ downtube shifter and manly man gearing (won't sell, pretty darn hard to find in 56cm and paid only $160 for it in 2011)
Spesh Rockhopper SL singlespeed MTB - setup rigid so beats me up and 20#s, haven't rode much cuz a car broke my shoulder in 2014, was my goto MTB race bike , short and long courses)
WeThePeople 4seasons 20" Chromo steel BMX, needs tires and brakes mounted (skate park bike)
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08-27-18, 10:36 AM
#121
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On wheels, these look intriguing, I "need" a set of road wheels/tires for the Niner. I'd probably go for 28/28. Thoughts?
https://novemberbicycles.com/collect...=8131046408285
I rode two rides yesterday for a total of 90 miles, then did 42 today with OC Wheelmen. So I blew up my 9 hours per week to 10:43 this week. I must say I was dragging a bit this morning. Finished my second ride last night at 10:00 pm, had to be ready to roll at 0800 this morning. Felt good once I got rolling but I think my 60 yr old body would prefer a bit more recovery time.
@TrojanHorse, how can you be too lazy to stop for water? That's messed up.
https://novemberbicycles.com/collect...=8131046408285
I rode two rides yesterday for a total of 90 miles, then did 42 today with OC Wheelmen. So I blew up my 9 hours per week to 10:43 this week. I must say I was dragging a bit this morning. Finished my second ride last night at 10:00 pm, had to be ready to roll at 0800 this morning. Felt good once I got rolling but I think my 60 yr old body would prefer a bit more recovery time.
@TrojanHorse, how can you be too lazy to stop for water? That's messed up.
As to the water question, I didn't go quite as far as I had planned (time constraints) so I missed out on water at the turnaround spot at river's end in Seal Beach and the only other readily available water (had no money) was at a water fountain about 5 miles from home and by then I was already cooked and it wasn't worth stopping for nasty water anyway.
08-27-18, 11:02 AM
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Why bother with 36mm rims? Either go lightweight or get 48, that's my opinion. Doesn't look like they have 28 spoke options either, which is kind of whack in a disk wheel.
As to the water question, I didn't go quite as far as I had planned (time constraints) so I missed out on water at the turnaround spot at river's end in Seal Beach and the only other readily available water (had no money) was at a water fountain about 5 miles from home and by then I was already cooked and it wasn't worth stopping for nasty water anyway.
As to the water question, I didn't go quite as far as I had planned (time constraints) so I missed out on water at the turnaround spot at river's end in Seal Beach and the only other readily available water (had no money) was at a water fountain about 5 miles from home and by then I was already cooked and it wasn't worth stopping for nasty water anyway.
Top tip, fold up a couple of Andrew Jacksons and keep 'em in the bag with your spare tube. Never know when a few bucks might come in handy. Maybe you should even carry ID. Just in case, you know, the paramedics have to come rescue your dehydrated carcass!
08-27-18, 11:29 AM
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They're going to have to read my name off the road ID.
08-27-18, 11:34 AM
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I have a friend whose dad is basically a con man, or shady 'businessman' or whatever. He showed me once how he hid folded-up 20s in his wallet in between the back-to-back family pictures. He was trying to impress me with how clever he is, able to hide money from his wife. I just thought it was slimy.
08-27-18, 12:14 PM
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