The Saga of a 378LB Clyde, Knee Surgery, and More!
05-02-10, 06:30 PM
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Well, she went from "I don't need any fenders because I'll never ride in the rain", to - It's just sprinkling out, let's ride for 15 or so til dinner is ready - soaked by the time we got home - LOL - less than 24hrs after buying her Bike too!
She (we) did 2.4 miles in 15 minutes riding time, average spead 8.4 MPH. Seriously, as soon as she gets over her nerves, and puts a few miles under her belt, I'll be chasing her me thinks!
I got my first pair of "bib-shorts" from Aero-Tech - 4XL - might have been able to do the 3XL, but am cool with these - I think they may be more comfortable than shorts! 2 days from order to delivery, and got the 10% off, and they even threw in this neat little back-pack-ish thing with 3M stripes and logo - nice.
Tomorrow I and two kids will (hopefully) finish getting EVERYTHING out of the old place, so then getting stuff moved around so my car can get in the garage, and I'll be done (but for mowing two homes)!!!
Time to get the boat out and prep it - supposed to be 81 on Friday!!
She (we) did 2.4 miles in 15 minutes riding time, average spead 8.4 MPH. Seriously, as soon as she gets over her nerves, and puts a few miles under her belt, I'll be chasing her me thinks!
I got my first pair of "bib-shorts" from Aero-Tech - 4XL - might have been able to do the 3XL, but am cool with these - I think they may be more comfortable than shorts! 2 days from order to delivery, and got the 10% off, and they even threw in this neat little back-pack-ish thing with 3M stripes and logo - nice.
Tomorrow I and two kids will (hopefully) finish getting EVERYTHING out of the old place, so then getting stuff moved around so my car can get in the garage, and I'll be done (but for mowing two homes)!!!
Time to get the boat out and prep it - supposed to be 81 on Friday!!
05-03-10, 07:12 AM
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Really, Peter simply needs to get his $hit done, so he can enjoy his Bike instead of Mowing in the dark last night, and only getting half done. Say or think what ye wish. Call it what ye wish - it is not lack of desire, simply $hit to get done PERIOD.
And I PARAPHRASE him in my response.
"the only **** ($HIT) peter needs to get done is get his ass back in shape and get his life back so he can get twice as much **** done in half the time. Peter should stop worrying about the rest of the world and for once take care of what PETER needs to do in order to live a prolonged life.
MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Then there is you on the other hand who tells me to go F myself when nothing I said was even directed your way. So if we want to talk about threadjacking, bad manners and a big mouth you need to take a look in the mirror.
And what manner have I treated Peter??? Unlike half of you, I'm at least being HONEST with the man!
I stand by my original statements to Peter which has always been that I applaud him for his efforts thus far but he still has a long road ahead and he needs to stay on track and staying on track means not making excuses.
He posts on here openly admitting he hasn't lost any lbs in weeks and then tells us that he is drinking soda and not riding his bike! The man is still 350 lbs. A 350lb man should easily be able to lose 1lb a week and as much as 4. I get that he is riding an exercise bike for 30 minutes a day. It's better than nothing, but anyone who has ever ridden an exercise bike knows the exercise level doesn't compare at all to that of riding a real bike. His house chores are certainly some work and exercise but I sense that Peter has always had that house work and chores in his life and he still ended up at 400 lbs so as a wise man once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Peter's problem is that he doesn't know how to care about Peter. There are far worse flaws to have. Hopefully Peter will continue to learn that it's okay to be a little bit selfish and to do whatever it takes to prolong his life because if he doesn't stay focused he will easily slip back into bad habits. And a dead Peter does the world no good and this is a life and death issue, but some of you don't realize that.
05-03-10, 08:56 AM
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That said, Peter C. should expect criticism if he chooses to treat the Clyde Forum as his personal blog.
05-03-10, 09:44 AM
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Yes...and you're an idiot for continuing to try to defend your lame ass.
If you want to discuss it further with me, take it to PM...but don't expect flowers and kumbaya, cupcake.
If you want to discuss it further with me, take it to PM...but don't expect flowers and kumbaya, cupcake.
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05-03-10, 09:54 AM
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Some of us, and probably more than half, respect Peter C. enough to let him live his life. That includes mis-living it, as he seems to be doing. After all, it's his choice. He doesn't have to please us with his choices.
That said, Peter C. should expect criticism if he chooses to treat the Clyde Forum as his personal blog.
That said, Peter C. should expect criticism if he chooses to treat the Clyde Forum as his personal blog.
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05-03-10, 10:02 AM
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If I can put an eyeball on the bike and your wife's fit, I'll have a better idea if we can throw a rear rack on the bike at some point.
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Yes I know you're an internet tough guy and I'm an idiot for speaking the truth.
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Thank you for your confession, my son. For your penance, please say three Hail Marys and one Our Father. 
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05-03-10, 04:56 PM
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He posts on here openly admitting he hasn't lost any lbs in weeks and then tells us that he is drinking soda and not riding his bike! The man is still 350 lbs. A 350lb man should easily be able to lose 1lb a week and as much as 4. I get that he is riding an exercise bike for 30 minutes a day. It's better than nothing, but anyone who has ever ridden an exercise bike knows the exercise level doesn't compare at all to that of riding a real bike. His house chores are certainly some work and exercise but I sense that Peter has always had that house work and chores in his life and he still ended up at 400 lbs so as a wise man once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Peter's problem is that he doesn't know how to care about Peter. There are far worse flaws to have. Hopefully Peter will continue to learn that it's okay to be a little bit selfish and to do whatever it takes to prolong his life because if he doesn't stay focused he will easily slip back into bad habits. And a dead Peter does the world no good and this is a life and death issue, but some of you don't realize that.
Peter's problem is that he doesn't know how to care about Peter. There are far worse flaws to have. Hopefully Peter will continue to learn that it's okay to be a little bit selfish and to do whatever it takes to prolong his life because if he doesn't stay focused he will easily slip back into bad habits. And a dead Peter does the world no good and this is a life and death issue, but some of you don't realize that.
First, at 400lbs (bouncing from a low of 370 to a high of bout 407 over the last 20+ years - your assumptions are and were wrong. Completely so. From 1988 until 2002 I was a "long-haul" truckdriver. I lived on the road, I did not have a home, and any *chores* I might do related only to the truck (washing windows, basic inside cleaning, basic laundry) - other than that, my entire life with my dog, my laptop, and driving (see www.putergeek.com to see what I did while on the road). My heart and Knee took me off the road in 2002, found and Married Cindy in 2003, and became a"townie", with all the normal responsibilities therein.
If I did housework, or chores, or mowing - didn't matter which, I was completely done in within bout 3hrs (heart), and too crippled up for the rest of the day and most of the next (knee). - The point here is I have never done the about of *stuff* that I am doing now, since around age 23-24 or so. Yup, I agree completely that a stationary bike, no matter how it is ridden is not the same (or as fun) as a real Bike. That said, I ride it for two primary reasons - for my new knee, and for my heart...
The motion of the stationary is very good for the new knee (as well as the PT I am still doing), and the cardio (such as it is) is easily 100% more than I have daily gotten in the last 7-10yrs. Alone, it's not enough, but, alone, it has already gotten me off 3 of my heart meds (another heart DR APPT end of May).
I completely agree that the sooner I lose weight and get into much better shape the better and healthier I will be. But, it's been a long ass road to put me in this place, and I expect it will take some time to make it "all wonderful again"... That said, I will not put my entire life on hold, and do nothing but work on Peter's health and sleep 24/7...shrug, simply ain't gonna happen that way.
As the Historian stated (and I wrote in one of my very first posts on this thread) - so people may reply, some won't. Some may reply and say stuff I do not wish to hear or agree with - that's the give and take of a *forum*. If I was not willing, I could write nothing, or simply create a 'blog' that allows no feed-back of any sort. Because the writing helps me think, and helps me with my own perspective, I have chosen to start this Thread (with Tom's prior permission too), I have done that as some people may for whatever reasons wish to follow along with 'my life' - be it good or bad, cheering me on or booing me. or, simply reading and just maybe, just maybe, it *might* help another fat guy (obese, heavy, big, morbidly obese - whatever) think about or decide to make a change. Or someone with a foo-barred knee may use what I have written to help them choose to do, or not to do a "TKR".
Anyhow, rightly, or wrongly, in my thinking your pespective is way off base, and out of line. Reasons are as follows"
08/09 - the simple act of sweeping my double car garage had to be broken into two parts with a 10 minute break in the middle as I would be completely gasping for air, with a pulse in the 140s (and only down to the 130s after a 60 second rest). If i did that, and spent the 5-6 hours mowing (riding mover with bagger) - only work was emptying the bins 8-10 times - I would feel to *punky* to even consider going to a movie, or a local race, or taking the boat out - and most likely the next day needed to be a day of rest, doing basically nothing.
In 02-04 when the basement flooded (16") and the sump pump was dead, and there was a 5 gallon bucket of muck in the sump pump pit - it took Peter 15hrs to pump the basement out, get all the parts needed from the local home depot, rip out the old stuff, clen the muck out of the pit, install and test the new sump pump. I assume a more normal guy could have easily done the above in 4-6hrs. This lamed me up for 3 days.
All of the examples explain how bad of shape I had gotten into, add in the knee, the pain, the pain MGNT, the 180mg of morphine daily, and the horrid quality of life I had as of when I first began posting here.
Fast forward to today:
Yesterday (Sunday) I did 7hrs of shelf, moving, organizing-type work, went on a very short 15 minute ride with my wife, had dinner, went out to the new garage and spent 2 more hours organizing, came in, watched TV with my bride for an hour, went to bed, get 7hrs of sleep, got up, went to U-Haul, picked up the rental TRL, came home, and in the 30 minutes waiting for the buys to show up, made 7 trips from the garage to the shed (370 feet of grass, slightly downhill) with stuff to store in the shed (FYI more non-pavement walking right there than in any single day of the last 5yrs), loaded a 80 odd pound folding table into the U-Haul TRL by myself, and then brought two 40 LB bags of dry dog food from the garage to the basement (where Cin and I now live - 19 steps down stairs) - in one trip, boys arrived, went to old house, directed the loading of the TRL (standing the entire time), drove to my Mom and step-fathers home, directed the unloading, drove back to my old home, did 3 full trips to the new house, at this point helping with the heavy stuff, swapped the U-haul for my utility TRl, did a last round trip, unloaded it, Cin took the boys home, I sat down to write this and take a short break, then will go out to the shed and (hopefully) figure out how to pack it all in there before dark.
Then will eat dinneer with Cin, maybe ride for 15-20 if she wants to, maybe not. Tomorrow will get up by 8AM, load my tractor into my TRL, go to the old place and mow for 5-7hrs, come back home and mow the front half of this place... to me (and those that know me) this is WAY MORE than I have ever been able to do, tire sure, crippled up, nope, feeling punky or out of breath, nope - FYI - at rest HR after sitting here for 15 minutes is 82 with a BP of 122 over 77.
If anyone feels I should be riding instead, taking care of myself instead, and all the other stuff - they are allowed to think that way if they wish, I won't agree, and they may or may not post - and if they post, it may or may not be good... /shrug
My point is that it's real. Hindsight is always 20/20. 1 year, or 2 years from now, we will see what has happened, what I weigh, if I am still drinking Pepsi or not. I'm not going to lie, it is what it is. The only person I feel the need to answer to is me and my wife. If you do not like what I write, do not read it, or do not reply, or reply and say mean things - I do not control you or anyone else. I am not into "tough love" or a kick in the ass - no one has that right unless by friendship I have given them that right.
CPFITNESS - Read, reply, or quit reading or quit replying - of course, that is your choice. However, I too have choices, and I do not think like you, or chose to be around people that come across as you have here - so any posts you may make are not for my benefit.
There are many that post in this thread that do not always say wonderful things, and I value their insight, am sorry, but for me personally, you are not on that list (no dis-respect meant, simply trying to explain my own thoughts)
Lastly - I will continue as I have, and post as stuff comes up - as I have said many times before, this thread is only partially about Biking - it is also about my TKR, my health in general, my desire to improve said poor health, lose weight, and bicycle.
05-03-10, 07:12 PM
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That's quite a post Peter. I've said a few things in your thread here, and I hope you've found them at least thought provoking. Keep moving in the right direction, at whatever speed you can manage. You and Cindy can be your own best supporters, getting each other up for a ride even when you might not feel like it -- because you both know once you get out there a mile down the road you'll feel invigorated and be happy you went.
I do have one question -- why are you spending 5-7 hours mowing at your old place? Did you have a horse pasture for a lawn?!
Don't let those nice new bikes gather any dust! And have fun on your journey.
I do have one question -- why are you spending 5-7 hours mowing at your old place? Did you have a horse pasture for a lawn?!
Don't let those nice new bikes gather any dust! And have fun on your journey.
05-03-10, 08:41 PM
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That's quite a post Peter. I've said a few things in your thread here, and I hope you've found them at least thought provoking. Keep moving in the right direction, at whatever speed you can manage. You and Cindy can be your own best supporters, getting each other up for a ride even when you might not feel like it -- because you both know once you get out there a mile down the road you'll feel invigorated and be happy you went.
I do have one question -- why are you spending 5-7 hours mowing at your old place? Did you have a horse pasture for a lawn?!
Don't let those nice new bikes gather any dust! And have fun on your journey.
I do have one question -- why are you spending 5-7 hours mowing at your old place? Did you have a horse pasture for a lawn?!
Don't let those nice new bikes gather any dust! And have fun on your journey.
FIRST, I always enjoy your posts billyymc!!
The old place is 1.23 acres, and until now, I have always 'bagged' it, slow mowing provides the best cut, and I always 'overlap' as well. Our new place (my mother in-law's place) is 1.4 acres - and they have SO many plants, shrubs, and flower beds to mow around that it has taken me up to 8hrs to cut and bag. (22HP Craftsman with a 42" deck - fresh blades yearly, very well maintained)
As you can see from the time of my last post, and this one - I just got done making everything fit in the shed!!! YAY Peter! it does look a bit like something from a horror movie (stuff hanging from walls and ceiling), but it all fits, both tractors, baggers, leaf sweeper, edger, roller, leaf bolwers, weed-whackers, and so on - I was worried bout that.
Been a long and productive day today! Have 1-2 more hours at the old place, and then make everything fit in the garage so we can get the cars in - and we'll finally be done..whew!
Now, pray for the old place to sell...
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One reply, then I am done replying on this topic. Also, adding in a reply to Historian's comment as well.
First, at 400lbs (bouncing from a low of 370 to a high of bout 407 over the last 20+ years - your assumptions are and were wrong. Completely so. From 1988 until 2002 I was a "long-haul" truckdriver. I lived on the road, I did not have a home, and any *chores* I might do related only to the truck (washing windows, basic inside cleaning, basic laundry) - other than that, my entire life with my dog, my laptop, and driving (see www.putergeek.com to see what I did while on the road). My heart and Knee took me off the road in 2002, found and Married Cindy in 2003, and became a"townie", with all the normal responsibilities therein.
If I did housework, or chores, or mowing - didn't matter which, I was completely done in within bout 3hrs (heart), and too crippled up for the rest of the day and most of the next (knee). - The point here is I have never done the about of *stuff* that I am doing now, since around age 23-24 or so. Yup, I agree completely that a stationary bike, no matter how it is ridden is not the same (or as fun) as a real Bike. That said, I ride it for two primary reasons - for my new knee, and for my heart...
The motion of the stationary is very good for the new knee (as well as the PT I am still doing), and the cardio (such as it is) is easily 100% more than I have daily gotten in the last 7-10yrs. Alone, it's not enough, but, alone, it has already gotten me off 3 of my heart meds (another heart DR APPT end of May).
I completely agree that the sooner I lose weight and get into much better shape the better and healthier I will be. But, it's been a long ass road to put me in this place, and I expect it will take some time to make it "all wonderful again"... That said, I will not put my entire life on hold, and do nothing but work on Peter's health and sleep 24/7...shrug, simply ain't gonna happen that way.
As the Historian stated (and I wrote in one of my very first posts on this thread) - so people may reply, some won't. Some may reply and say stuff I do not wish to hear or agree with - that's the give and take of a *forum*. If I was not willing, I could write nothing, or simply create a 'blog' that allows no feed-back of any sort. Because the writing helps me think, and helps me with my own perspective, I have chosen to start this Thread (with Tom's prior permission too), I have done that as some people may for whatever reasons wish to follow along with 'my life' - be it good or bad, cheering me on or booing me. or, simply reading and just maybe, just maybe, it *might* help another fat guy (obese, heavy, big, morbidly obese - whatever) think about or decide to make a change. Or someone with a foo-barred knee may use what I have written to help them choose to do, or not to do a "TKR".
Anyhow, rightly, or wrongly, in my thinking your pespective is way off base, and out of line. Reasons are as follows"
08/09 - the simple act of sweeping my double car garage had to be broken into two parts with a 10 minute break in the middle as I would be completely gasping for air, with a pulse in the 140s (and only down to the 130s after a 60 second rest). If i did that, and spent the 5-6 hours mowing (riding mover with bagger) - only work was emptying the bins 8-10 times - I would feel to *punky* to even consider going to a movie, or a local race, or taking the boat out - and most likely the next day needed to be a day of rest, doing basically nothing.
In 02-04 when the basement flooded (16") and the sump pump was dead, and there was a 5 gallon bucket of muck in the sump pump pit - it took Peter 15hrs to pump the basement out, get all the parts needed from the local home depot, rip out the old stuff, clen the muck out of the pit, install and test the new sump pump. I assume a more normal guy could have easily done the above in 4-6hrs. This lamed me up for 3 days.
All of the examples explain how bad of shape I had gotten into, add in the knee, the pain, the pain MGNT, the 180mg of morphine daily, and the horrid quality of life I had as of when I first began posting here.
Fast forward to today:
Yesterday (Sunday) I did 7hrs of shelf, moving, organizing-type work, went on a very short 15 minute ride with my wife, had dinner, went out to the new garage and spent 2 more hours organizing, came in, watched TV with my bride for an hour, went to bed, get 7hrs of sleep, got up, went to U-Haul, picked up the rental TRL, came home, and in the 30 minutes waiting for the buys to show up, made 7 trips from the garage to the shed (370 feet of grass, slightly downhill) with stuff to store in the shed (FYI more non-pavement walking right there than in any single day of the last 5yrs), loaded a 80 odd pound folding table into the U-Haul TRL by myself, and then brought two 40 LB bags of dry dog food from the garage to the basement (where Cin and I now live - 19 steps down stairs) - in one trip, boys arrived, went to old house, directed the loading of the TRL (standing the entire time), drove to my Mom and step-fathers home, directed the unloading, drove back to my old home, did 3 full trips to the new house, at this point helping with the heavy stuff, swapped the U-haul for my utility TRl, did a last round trip, unloaded it, Cin took the boys home, I sat down to write this and take a short break, then will go out to the shed and (hopefully) figure out how to pack it all in there before dark.
Then will eat dinneer with Cin, maybe ride for 15-20 if she wants to, maybe not. Tomorrow will get up by 8AM, load my tractor into my TRL, go to the old place and mow for 5-7hrs, come back home and mow the front half of this place... to me (and those that know me) this is WAY MORE than I have ever been able to do, tire sure, crippled up, nope, feeling punky or out of breath, nope - FYI - at rest HR after sitting here for 15 minutes is 82 with a BP of 122 over 77.
If anyone feels I should be riding instead, taking care of myself instead, and all the other stuff - they are allowed to think that way if they wish, I won't agree, and they may or may not post - and if they post, it may or may not be good... /shrug
My point is that it's real. Hindsight is always 20/20. 1 year, or 2 years from now, we will see what has happened, what I weigh, if I am still drinking Pepsi or not. I'm not going to lie, it is what it is. The only person I feel the need to answer to is me and my wife. If you do not like what I write, do not read it, or do not reply, or reply and say mean things - I do not control you or anyone else. I am not into "tough love" or a kick in the ass - no one has that right unless by friendship I have given them that right.
CPFITNESS - Read, reply, or quit reading or quit replying - of course, that is your choice. However, I too have choices, and I do not think like you, or chose to be around people that come across as you have here - so any posts you may make are not for my benefit.
There are many that post in this thread that do not always say wonderful things, and I value their insight, am sorry, but for me personally, you are not on that list (no dis-respect meant, simply trying to explain my own thoughts)
Lastly - I will continue as I have, and post as stuff comes up - as I have said many times before, this thread is only partially about Biking - it is also about my TKR, my health in general, my desire to improve said poor health, lose weight, and bicycle.
First, at 400lbs (bouncing from a low of 370 to a high of bout 407 over the last 20+ years - your assumptions are and were wrong. Completely so. From 1988 until 2002 I was a "long-haul" truckdriver. I lived on the road, I did not have a home, and any *chores* I might do related only to the truck (washing windows, basic inside cleaning, basic laundry) - other than that, my entire life with my dog, my laptop, and driving (see www.putergeek.com to see what I did while on the road). My heart and Knee took me off the road in 2002, found and Married Cindy in 2003, and became a"townie", with all the normal responsibilities therein.
If I did housework, or chores, or mowing - didn't matter which, I was completely done in within bout 3hrs (heart), and too crippled up for the rest of the day and most of the next (knee). - The point here is I have never done the about of *stuff* that I am doing now, since around age 23-24 or so. Yup, I agree completely that a stationary bike, no matter how it is ridden is not the same (or as fun) as a real Bike. That said, I ride it for two primary reasons - for my new knee, and for my heart...
The motion of the stationary is very good for the new knee (as well as the PT I am still doing), and the cardio (such as it is) is easily 100% more than I have daily gotten in the last 7-10yrs. Alone, it's not enough, but, alone, it has already gotten me off 3 of my heart meds (another heart DR APPT end of May).
I completely agree that the sooner I lose weight and get into much better shape the better and healthier I will be. But, it's been a long ass road to put me in this place, and I expect it will take some time to make it "all wonderful again"... That said, I will not put my entire life on hold, and do nothing but work on Peter's health and sleep 24/7...shrug, simply ain't gonna happen that way.
As the Historian stated (and I wrote in one of my very first posts on this thread) - so people may reply, some won't. Some may reply and say stuff I do not wish to hear or agree with - that's the give and take of a *forum*. If I was not willing, I could write nothing, or simply create a 'blog' that allows no feed-back of any sort. Because the writing helps me think, and helps me with my own perspective, I have chosen to start this Thread (with Tom's prior permission too), I have done that as some people may for whatever reasons wish to follow along with 'my life' - be it good or bad, cheering me on or booing me. or, simply reading and just maybe, just maybe, it *might* help another fat guy (obese, heavy, big, morbidly obese - whatever) think about or decide to make a change. Or someone with a foo-barred knee may use what I have written to help them choose to do, or not to do a "TKR".
Anyhow, rightly, or wrongly, in my thinking your pespective is way off base, and out of line. Reasons are as follows"
08/09 - the simple act of sweeping my double car garage had to be broken into two parts with a 10 minute break in the middle as I would be completely gasping for air, with a pulse in the 140s (and only down to the 130s after a 60 second rest). If i did that, and spent the 5-6 hours mowing (riding mover with bagger) - only work was emptying the bins 8-10 times - I would feel to *punky* to even consider going to a movie, or a local race, or taking the boat out - and most likely the next day needed to be a day of rest, doing basically nothing.
In 02-04 when the basement flooded (16") and the sump pump was dead, and there was a 5 gallon bucket of muck in the sump pump pit - it took Peter 15hrs to pump the basement out, get all the parts needed from the local home depot, rip out the old stuff, clen the muck out of the pit, install and test the new sump pump. I assume a more normal guy could have easily done the above in 4-6hrs. This lamed me up for 3 days.
All of the examples explain how bad of shape I had gotten into, add in the knee, the pain, the pain MGNT, the 180mg of morphine daily, and the horrid quality of life I had as of when I first began posting here.
Fast forward to today:
Yesterday (Sunday) I did 7hrs of shelf, moving, organizing-type work, went on a very short 15 minute ride with my wife, had dinner, went out to the new garage and spent 2 more hours organizing, came in, watched TV with my bride for an hour, went to bed, get 7hrs of sleep, got up, went to U-Haul, picked up the rental TRL, came home, and in the 30 minutes waiting for the buys to show up, made 7 trips from the garage to the shed (370 feet of grass, slightly downhill) with stuff to store in the shed (FYI more non-pavement walking right there than in any single day of the last 5yrs), loaded a 80 odd pound folding table into the U-Haul TRL by myself, and then brought two 40 LB bags of dry dog food from the garage to the basement (where Cin and I now live - 19 steps down stairs) - in one trip, boys arrived, went to old house, directed the loading of the TRL (standing the entire time), drove to my Mom and step-fathers home, directed the unloading, drove back to my old home, did 3 full trips to the new house, at this point helping with the heavy stuff, swapped the U-haul for my utility TRl, did a last round trip, unloaded it, Cin took the boys home, I sat down to write this and take a short break, then will go out to the shed and (hopefully) figure out how to pack it all in there before dark.
Then will eat dinneer with Cin, maybe ride for 15-20 if she wants to, maybe not. Tomorrow will get up by 8AM, load my tractor into my TRL, go to the old place and mow for 5-7hrs, come back home and mow the front half of this place... to me (and those that know me) this is WAY MORE than I have ever been able to do, tire sure, crippled up, nope, feeling punky or out of breath, nope - FYI - at rest HR after sitting here for 15 minutes is 82 with a BP of 122 over 77.
If anyone feels I should be riding instead, taking care of myself instead, and all the other stuff - they are allowed to think that way if they wish, I won't agree, and they may or may not post - and if they post, it may or may not be good... /shrug
My point is that it's real. Hindsight is always 20/20. 1 year, or 2 years from now, we will see what has happened, what I weigh, if I am still drinking Pepsi or not. I'm not going to lie, it is what it is. The only person I feel the need to answer to is me and my wife. If you do not like what I write, do not read it, or do not reply, or reply and say mean things - I do not control you or anyone else. I am not into "tough love" or a kick in the ass - no one has that right unless by friendship I have given them that right.
CPFITNESS - Read, reply, or quit reading or quit replying - of course, that is your choice. However, I too have choices, and I do not think like you, or chose to be around people that come across as you have here - so any posts you may make are not for my benefit.
There are many that post in this thread that do not always say wonderful things, and I value their insight, am sorry, but for me personally, you are not on that list (no dis-respect meant, simply trying to explain my own thoughts)
Lastly - I will continue as I have, and post as stuff comes up - as I have said many times before, this thread is only partially about Biking - it is also about my TKR, my health in general, my desire to improve said poor health, lose weight, and bicycle.
Love my style, hate my style, just understand that it comes from both personal and professional experience. You are right, you and I don't think alike (no two people ever do think exactly alike) my point to you is to just be aware that all of your old ways of thinking and doing got you to the point you were at. You cannot allow those old ways of thinking and doing come back.
Earlier in this thread, someone asked me if I was Jillian Michaels (trainer from the biggest loser) and it's funny because every season she PISSES contestants off because she has the mental side of their issues figured out well before they do and it pisses people off to hear it when they aren't ready for it.
I hope there comes a day when everything clicks and you have a better understanding and appreciation for the things I've been trying to tell you. I think there are others in this thread who have been where you were and are at a different place now and they do understand where I'm coming from, but it happens to everyone at different times. Continued success on your journey. I'll refrain from replying to your thread moving forward, but will continue to read in interest and my PM box is open if there is any fitness advice I can help you with.
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First I would like to say I have not read all of the posts above, but I want to give you a little back ground since I am Peter's wife and I know him best. I was married before Peter and we were married 1 year and 5 months and then he died in my arms. So it was not a very long marriage, it took me 9 years to find Peter. I know what health means more than most. So I know Peter and I have to focus on getting in shape and better health. So I have said that we need to get into shape, but life is life, we all have obligations that we must have, I assume most of you have actual houses that you have to take care of, and I assume you take pride in what your house looks like, that means maintenance of the home, mowing, weed eating, fixing things that break and so on, plus I assume you all have jobs that you got to on a regular basis.
Peter is the type of man that takes everything to heart and he is more sensitive than most. His job is more stressful than you can imagine, but he loves his job.
For the excuses, there are no excuses he is taking care of business whether it is his job, wife, house or riding. I do not make him stay at home and do things, I'm the most laid back person you want to meet. Things can wait to get done, but things have to get done too. So Peter is taking time for himself, I have done most of the packing so he does not have to and he is riding and I do take offense to what people say that you have to take care of yourself first. He is doing that in his own way. Critisism is one thing but not knowing Peter is another and tough love is not needed here, I'm like a mama cub don't piss me off. I don't want to lose another husband I don't want to be alone, I'm the one encouraging him to do what he can, I also got a bike so I can ride with him to encourage him. I'm more of a walker but I will ride and we can do things together. So there are no excuses here, baby steps are being done, Pepsi is not being drank that much, it is an addiction and he is working on it. If he can get off of morphine he can do this too. Yes I am backing my husband up 100% I don't like people throwing out that he is making excuses, if you would have known him a year ago before his knee surgery you would not recognize him at all. So please everyone relax and take a chill, he is doing what he wants to do and I am supporting him on this. All he needs from everyone is encouragement not critisism if he wants that all he as to do is go to work and he can have all he wants.
I have said my peace I hope this clears things up, there are no excuses things have to be done so we can live, he is the type of person that has to have everything tidy and in its place and ride at the same time, we are going to ride today and enjoy things even when things are not done at the house, they will be here when we get back, but that doesn't mean he still does not have responsibility to make things work too. Enough said on this.
Peter is the type of man that takes everything to heart and he is more sensitive than most. His job is more stressful than you can imagine, but he loves his job.
For the excuses, there are no excuses he is taking care of business whether it is his job, wife, house or riding. I do not make him stay at home and do things, I'm the most laid back person you want to meet. Things can wait to get done, but things have to get done too. So Peter is taking time for himself, I have done most of the packing so he does not have to and he is riding and I do take offense to what people say that you have to take care of yourself first. He is doing that in his own way. Critisism is one thing but not knowing Peter is another and tough love is not needed here, I'm like a mama cub don't piss me off. I don't want to lose another husband I don't want to be alone, I'm the one encouraging him to do what he can, I also got a bike so I can ride with him to encourage him. I'm more of a walker but I will ride and we can do things together. So there are no excuses here, baby steps are being done, Pepsi is not being drank that much, it is an addiction and he is working on it. If he can get off of morphine he can do this too. Yes I am backing my husband up 100% I don't like people throwing out that he is making excuses, if you would have known him a year ago before his knee surgery you would not recognize him at all. So please everyone relax and take a chill, he is doing what he wants to do and I am supporting him on this. All he needs from everyone is encouragement not critisism if he wants that all he as to do is go to work and he can have all he wants.
I have said my peace I hope this clears things up, there are no excuses things have to be done so we can live, he is the type of person that has to have everything tidy and in its place and ride at the same time, we are going to ride today and enjoy things even when things are not done at the house, they will be here when we get back, but that doesn't mean he still does not have responsibility to make things work too. Enough said on this.
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Just playing devils advocate - but I think if you invite people into your lives (via a website) with a lot of life details, you cant be shocked or offended when you receive opinions/responses on a more "personal" level. To each his (or her) own but when I post, all I want is a response on
A: How to fix something mechanical
B: Opinions on what to buy
C: Advice on how to train / lose weight
I dont think the world needs to know the minutia of my life (mowing patterns etc) - just my thoughts, for what their worth
A: How to fix something mechanical
B: Opinions on what to buy
C: Advice on how to train / lose weight
I dont think the world needs to know the minutia of my life (mowing patterns etc) - just my thoughts, for what their worth
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First I would like to say I have not read all of the posts above, but I want to give you a little back ground since I am Peter's wife and I know him best. I was married before Peter and we were married 1 year and 5 months and then he died in my arms. So it was not a very long marriage, it took me 9 years to find Peter. I know what health means more than most. So I know Peter and I have to focus on getting in shape and better health. So I have said that we need to get into shape, but life is life, we all have obligations that we must have, I assume most of you have actual houses that you have to take care of, and I assume you take pride in what your house looks like, that means maintenance of the home, mowing, weed eating, fixing things that break and so on, plus I assume you all have jobs that you got to on a regular basis.
Peter is the type of man that takes everything to heart and he is more sensitive than most. His job is more stressful than you can imagine, but he loves his job.
For the excuses, there are no excuses he is taking care of business whether it is his job, wife, house or riding. I do not make him stay at home and do things, I'm the most laid back person you want to meet. Things can wait to get done, but things have to get done too. So Peter is taking time for himself, I have done most of the packing so he does not have to and he is riding and I do take offense to what people say that you have to take care of yourself first. He is doing that in his own way. Critisism is one thing but not knowing Peter is another and tough love is not needed here, I'm like a mama cub don't piss me off. I don't want to lose another husband I don't want to be alone, I'm the one encouraging him to do what he can, I also got a bike so I can ride with him to encourage him. I'm more of a walker but I will ride and we can do things together. So there are no excuses here, baby steps are being done, Pepsi is not being drank that much, it is an addiction and he is working on it. If he can get off of morphine he can do this too. Yes I am backing my husband up 100% I don't like people throwing out that he is making excuses, if you would have known him a year ago before his knee surgery you would not recognize him at all. So please everyone relax and take a chill, he is doing what he wants to do and I am supporting him on this. All he needs from everyone is encouragement not critisism if he wants that all he as to do is go to work and he can have all he wants.
I have said my peace I hope this clears things up, there are no excuses things have to be done so we can live, he is the type of person that has to have everything tidy and in its place and ride at the same time, we are going to ride today and enjoy things even when things are not done at the house, they will be here when we get back, but that doesn't mean he still does not have responsibility to make things work too. Enough said on this.
Peter is the type of man that takes everything to heart and he is more sensitive than most. His job is more stressful than you can imagine, but he loves his job.
For the excuses, there are no excuses he is taking care of business whether it is his job, wife, house or riding. I do not make him stay at home and do things, I'm the most laid back person you want to meet. Things can wait to get done, but things have to get done too. So Peter is taking time for himself, I have done most of the packing so he does not have to and he is riding and I do take offense to what people say that you have to take care of yourself first. He is doing that in his own way. Critisism is one thing but not knowing Peter is another and tough love is not needed here, I'm like a mama cub don't piss me off. I don't want to lose another husband I don't want to be alone, I'm the one encouraging him to do what he can, I also got a bike so I can ride with him to encourage him. I'm more of a walker but I will ride and we can do things together. So there are no excuses here, baby steps are being done, Pepsi is not being drank that much, it is an addiction and he is working on it. If he can get off of morphine he can do this too. Yes I am backing my husband up 100% I don't like people throwing out that he is making excuses, if you would have known him a year ago before his knee surgery you would not recognize him at all. So please everyone relax and take a chill, he is doing what he wants to do and I am supporting him on this. All he needs from everyone is encouragement not critisism if he wants that all he as to do is go to work and he can have all he wants.
I have said my peace I hope this clears things up, there are no excuses things have to be done so we can live, he is the type of person that has to have everything tidy and in its place and ride at the same time, we are going to ride today and enjoy things even when things are not done at the house, they will be here when we get back, but that doesn't mean he still does not have responsibility to make things work too. Enough said on this.
Peter's got a good attitude, including a strong love for you and an even stronger desire to spend as much time on this earth loving you as he can. That right there is better motivation than any tough-talking BS from an anonymous clown on the internet can give him.
My wife Cheri and I are looking forward to meeting you soon....but beware, you and me are gonna have words over the height of your saddle.
See ya soon!
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I have been keeping up with your thread Peter and I commend everything your doing. People do not completely understand what your going through. I have not personally went through it myself but my dad went through a lot of the same things your going through. This thread gets to me at times because I lost my dad back in January. He was 52, overweight, 360 pounds, and he needed a TKR. His problems were not exactly with his knees, even though both needed TKRs, but was with the pain pills. He became very addicted to the pills because he kept pushing off the TKR. He eventually got one knee done, back in May last year, and he didnt take his PT seriously and ended up screwing up the TKR.
Throughout the journey of the time that he became addicted to the pain pills, till his death watching him keep popping the pills hurt our family. He went from the simple 5-500 codine, up to 180mg methadone pills. Methadone (OxyCotin). He would take up to 30 pills a day sometimes. He ruined his life because of the pills and not wanting to do what the Doctor told him he needed to do.
I know that you got Frank, and are doing your PT and are trying to get off the pills. I hope that what ever you do, you just get off the pills.
My dad died because of the pills. I have never posted in your thread but I read it and think how your and his life paralleled each others. I do not want to see anyone suffer like both you and my dad did. I completely commend everything that your doing and how you decided to change your life for the better. keep up the good work and tell cindy thanks for taking care of you. You are taking the right steps in the direction you need to go. Its baby steps and I know its tough, but keep on keeping on.
Throughout the journey of the time that he became addicted to the pain pills, till his death watching him keep popping the pills hurt our family. He went from the simple 5-500 codine, up to 180mg methadone pills. Methadone (OxyCotin). He would take up to 30 pills a day sometimes. He ruined his life because of the pills and not wanting to do what the Doctor told him he needed to do.
I know that you got Frank, and are doing your PT and are trying to get off the pills. I hope that what ever you do, you just get off the pills.
My dad died because of the pills. I have never posted in your thread but I read it and think how your and his life paralleled each others. I do not want to see anyone suffer like both you and my dad did. I completely commend everything that your doing and how you decided to change your life for the better. keep up the good work and tell cindy thanks for taking care of you. You are taking the right steps in the direction you need to go. Its baby steps and I know its tough, but keep on keeping on.
05-04-10, 07:25 PM
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I agree completely and said so above. This is not a one way street, and not everyone will think as I do. That said, I also do not have to agree with, or like every reply either - Did I once say to anyone not to post? Nor do I demand replies - this is what it is - people can read, or not. People can post or not. People can be critical of me or not. I know and knew all of this prior to starting this thread. This thread is open to anyone who follows BF guidelines - be it good or bad, supportive or critical - it's my problem if I do not like what I read, right?
05-04-10, 07:29 PM
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I have been keeping up with your thread Peter and I commend everything your doing. People do not completely understand what your going through. I have not personally went through it myself but my dad went through a lot of the same things your going through. This thread gets to me at times because I lost my dad back in January. He was 52, overweight, 360 pounds, and he needed a TKR. His problems were not exactly with his knees, even though both needed TKRs, but was with the pain pills. He became very addicted to the pills because he kept pushing off the TKR. He eventually got one knee done, back in May last year, and he didnt take his PT seriously and ended up screwing up the TKR.
Throughout the journey of the time that he became addicted to the pain pills, till his death watching him keep popping the pills hurt our family. He went from the simple 5-500 codine, up to 180mg methadone pills. Methadone (OxyCotin). He would take up to 30 pills a day sometimes. He ruined his life because of the pills and not wanting to do what the Doctor told him he needed to do.
I know that you got Frank, and are doing your PT and are trying to get off the pills. I hope that what ever you do, you just get off the pills.
My dad died because of the pills. I have never posted in your thread but I read it and think how your and his life paralleled each others. I do not want to see anyone suffer like both you and my dad did. I completely commend everything that your doing and how you decided to change your life for the better. keep up the good work and tell cindy thanks for taking care of you. You are taking the right steps in the direction you need to go. Its baby steps and I know its tough, but keep on keeping on.
Throughout the journey of the time that he became addicted to the pain pills, till his death watching him keep popping the pills hurt our family. He went from the simple 5-500 codine, up to 180mg methadone pills. Methadone (OxyCotin). He would take up to 30 pills a day sometimes. He ruined his life because of the pills and not wanting to do what the Doctor told him he needed to do.
I know that you got Frank, and are doing your PT and are trying to get off the pills. I hope that what ever you do, you just get off the pills.
My dad died because of the pills. I have never posted in your thread but I read it and think how your and his life paralleled each others. I do not want to see anyone suffer like both you and my dad did. I completely commend everything that your doing and how you decided to change your life for the better. keep up the good work and tell cindy thanks for taking care of you. You are taking the right steps in the direction you need to go. Its baby steps and I know its tough, but keep on keeping on.
I am out of Pain MGNT and completely off the Moraphine for like 4-7 weeks now.
I take "tramadol" (generic for Ultram) as needed, and I get a max of 20 5/500 vicodine per month for bad pain (bone healing from the recission)
My last A1C (90 day blood surgar) was 5.7
My max single ride mileage to date is only 17 miles.
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Ok, I did miss that Peter and Im sorry about it. That Is wonderful that your off the hard stuff. You are going great on your recovery and keep up the good work.
Btw, what kind of loads did you haul? Were you OTR?
Btw, what kind of loads did you haul? Were you OTR?
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Peter, I know skinny kids who think 17 miles on a bike may as well be a walk to the moon.
I find it odd that some people think your chores can just get stuck on the back burner.
I find it odd that some people think your chores can just get stuck on the back burner.
05-04-10, 08:06 PM
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Yes, long-haul, pulling for Ranger (part of Landstar) - am from Portland, OR originally, then came to OH when the timber industy went to hell. Ran bout 120K - 160K per year.