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ill.clyde 10-05-11 12:49 PM

How bout a scale instead of the knife and fork?

Like a bathroom scale, with the needle pegged over 200 lbs? ... not a "scales of justice" type scale

McCallum 10-05-11 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by love2pedal.com (Post 13322500)
That fourth quadrant I want to put a fork and knife in there. Is that too offensive? My wife thinks so. I tell her I think the self-deprecating humor will be appreciated.

What are your thoughts on this aspect?

Dan

P.S. Jersey will most likely be ready 1st of December

Either the "Crossed Knife, Fork (and Spoon)" (the whole crest motif thing) or a BIG ROASTED TURKEY OR HAM!! So no it is humor!!
Hey most of us got this way by:
1) Eating to much
2) eating unhealthy
3) moving too little!

jeneralist 10-05-11 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by love2pedal.com (Post 13322500)
Here is a question:

There is a shield in the middle of the design (common in family crests). It is divided into 4 quadrants and we will put a wheel in one, world championship stripes in one and a checkered flag in one. That fourth quadrant I want to put a fork and knife in there. Is that too offensive? My wife thinks so. I tell her I think the self-deprecating humor will be appreciated.


I don't think I would buy a jersey with the knife and fork. I like the design that mymojo is working on, except for the "Fatreari" part. I don't want to label myself with something I'm trying hard not to be. "Clydesdale" or "Athena" can both convey strength and endurance -- the overeating and "fatreari" are things I'm trying to get myself away from.

goldfinch 10-05-11 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by jeneralist (Post 13324622)
I don't think I would buy a jersey with the knife and fork. I like the design that mymojo is working on, except for the "Fatreari" part. I don't want to label myself with something I'm trying hard not to be. "Clydesdale" or "Athena" can both convey strength and endurance -- the overeating and "fatreari" are things I'm trying to get myself away from.

Same here.

Neil_B 10-05-11 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by love2pedal.com (Post 13322500)
We are wrapping up the concept for our Clydesdale jersey. I will post it when it is a little further along in the design stage. For various reasons, we are not going to do the Ferrari design.

The concept looks like a fairly ornate European family crest with two Clydesdales prominently in there.

Here is a question:

There is a shield in the middle of the design (common in family crests). It is divided into 4 quadrants and we will put a wheel in one, world championship stripes in one and a checkered flag in one. That fourth quadrant I want to put a fork and knife in there. Is that too offensive? My wife thinks so. I tell her I think the self-deprecating humor will be appreciated.

What are your thoughts on this aspect?

Dan

P.S. Jersey will most likely be ready 1st of December

Yes to the knife and fork.

Neil_B 10-05-11 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by jeneralist (Post 13324622)
I don't think I would buy a jersey with the knife and fork. I like the design that mymojo is working on, except for the "Fatreari" part. I don't want to label myself with something I'm trying hard not to be. "Clydesdale" or "Athena" can both convey strength and endurance -- the overeating and "fatreari" are things I'm trying to get myself away from.

I guess I'll have to shelve my planned line of Athena jerseys, "Bicyclist got back".

monkeydentity 10-05-11 10:07 PM

i want one. but can't afford $90.

about the fork and knife, i don't like it but see the humor. maybe a staircase instead to represent the climb to fitness? or the withe w pink poka dots? you could put a health looking apple in the last box!

Also, maybe you could put "HTFU" somewhere?

monkeydentity 10-05-11 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by jeneralist (Post 13324622)
I don't think I would buy a jersey with the knife and fork. I like the design that mymojo is working on, except for the "Fatreari" part. I don't want to label myself with something I'm trying hard not to be. "Clydesdale" or "Athena" can both convey strength and endurance -- the overeating and "fatreari" are things I'm trying to get myself away from.

+1

I've been looking for a clyde jersey, even if we don't look fit out there and we aren't fit really, i think it's pretty awesome that we're doing it anyway, and all the while carrying all this extra weight that (as i'm learning) REALLY contributes to how fast we can go. Nowhere outside of biking is a simple one foot in front of the other so much less productive in a heavy person than a light one. i'd prefer to celebrate that effort than wave the flag of my previous failures...my belly shares that part of my story plenty.

chefisaac 10-06-11 08:49 AM

Either way, I would like one. :)

love2pedal.com 10-06-11 10:16 AM

I think for this 1st jersey, I will leave out the fork and knife to appeal to as many folks as possible.

Here is a very very rough mockup of the main design element (still in the concept stage and hasn't been sent to the artist to transform the concept into a real design). The Clydesdales will be given the trademark hairy hooves and everything will be cleaned up, straightened up etc.

The top banner will say Clydesdale and the bottom banner will say Cycling Team.

Sizing should be going up to 5X. Price around $65 (at most).

http://d3d71ba2asa5oz.cloudfront.net...of%20arms4.jpg

Dan

Neil_B 10-06-11 10:23 AM

I approve of the chessboard pattern and that the horses are modeled on the chess knight.

jeneralist 10-06-11 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by love2pedal.com (Post 13327360)
Here is a very very rough mockup of the main design element (still in the concept stage and hasn't been sent to the artist to transform the concept into a real design). The Clydesdales will be given the trademark hairy hooves and everything will be cleaned up, straightened up etc.

--- so those aren't meant to be broken spokes ;)

Seriously, Dan, it looks great.

RichardGlover 10-06-11 12:00 PM

I'm not fat (used to be); I'm tall, with the weight that goes with it; definite +1 on ditching any food-related themes.

I get the wheel... not so sure I'm fond of the bent spokes, but I get it, and the bent spokes wouldn't be a deal-breaker. It's funny, in a self-deprecating way. Sort of.

I get the "C" for Clydesdale, even though I don't like it; I'm not particularly fond of letters on the escutcheon (shield); it's a design that's pretty much unheard of in heraldry.

I don't understand why the checkerboard or rainbow is there, except to fill space.

I don't see any reference to Athenas. Perhaps putting a spear behind the shield and change the crown to an ancient greek helmet would evoke images of Pallas Athena.

There are many coat of arms designs that don't quarter the shield. My advice would be to come up with the cool icons you want, then decide how to divide the shield to display them - not the other way around.

Lastly... I'm in full support of HTFU as the motto (bottom scroll) and 'Clydesdale' on the top scroll.

himespau 10-06-11 01:17 PM

cool look.

RichardGlover 10-06-11 01:38 PM

One other thing:

http://www.fatcyclist.com/

Might want to check there and see what he's already offering. Also, might have some sort of infringement issues using the rearing clydesdale.

Or heck, approach him with a collaboration offer.

love2pedal.com 10-06-11 02:14 PM

Thanks everybody for the comments!

I liked the comments about the broken spokes! They weren't supposed to be interpreted as broken! That was just my cobbled together concept-my intent was to have the graphic artist to replace my quick, lame attempt at a wheel (the best I could muster quickly) with a normal bike wheel, but I like the idea of maybe having one or two of the spokes broken! A little inside humor.

I also considered instead of having the C in the lower section to have CC (200 in Roman numerals). I figured that would be a little too vague of a reference.

The input about the historical accuracy about the coat of arms was appreciated and will be considered but will probably not be strictly adhered to since the coat of arms was really just an inspiration.

Sorry Athenas but I am going to make this just Clydesdale-oriented. If there seems to be enough demand for an Athena jersey, I may consider it in the future.

Dan

monkeydentity 10-06-11 04:38 PM

I like it all (as long as the spokes aren't broken) except the crown...the little cross on top would be a deal breaker for me (lived in the south too long), but maybe if it were a more classic, less decorative one?

love2pedal.com 10-06-11 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by monkeydentity (Post 13329296)
I like it all (as long as the spokes aren't broken) except the crown...the little cross on top would be a deal breaker for me (lived in the south too long), but maybe if it were a more classic, less decorative one?

I agree about the crown-I will tell the artist to remove the little cross.

mymojo 10-06-11 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by RichardGlover (Post 13328457)
One other thing:

http://www.fatcyclist.com/

Might want to check there and see what he's already offering. Also, might have some sort of infringement issues using the rearing clydesdale.

Or heck, approach him with a collaboration offer.

LOL. That brings the thought process back full circle. My original idea was spawned by the fact that Fatcyclist didnt offer any jerseys in Clydesdale sizes. And, as someone else pointed out, hes only like 175 lbs.

Yours is lookin good Dan. ;) And Im with the guys who think HTFU would be great on the bottom scroll.


Originally Posted by RichardGlover (Post 13327930)

I don't understand why the ... rainbow is there, except to fill space.

Just a guess, but its likely an homage to the world championship.

McCallum 10-06-11 07:09 PM

I may not want to know but what does HTFU stand for/mean?

mymojo 10-06-11 08:06 PM

Harden The F+++ Up.

Sayre Kulp 10-06-11 10:02 PM

My $0.02:

With regards to the coat of arms styled design, I would suggest the following:

1) I agree on a less ornate crown.
2) I agree that the shield should feature meaningful symbols, rather than just having 4 relatively weak references in there.
3) I suggest that HTFU be put on the shield.

I think the jersey will look its best with minimal detail, but rather clean, bold design.

Neil_B 10-06-11 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by RichardGlover (Post 13328457)
One other thing:

http://www.fatcyclist.com/

Might want to check there and see what he's already offering. Also, might have some sort of infringement issues using the rearing clydesdale.

Or heck, approach him with a collaboration offer.

I doubt Twin Six has enough money in the bank to enter into a losing lawsuit over the use of a well-known image from heraldry. Do a Google search for images under "horse rampant."

monkeydentity 10-06-11 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by mymojo (Post 13330270)
Harden The F+++ Up.

I always thought it meant "Hurry the F*&% Up!" ...I keep meaning to write it on some tape and stick it to my handlebars so I see it whenever I look down.

I'm really excited about possibly getting a clyde jersey, thanks a lot guys for your efforts.
I like the clyde on the fat cyclist jersey, but i don't like the "Fat" part. If I was happy with the fat title I wouldn't be working so damned hard now would I. I like clyde, it's a power thing, and among this group i think it's a sort of a brotherhood...when i'm below 200 someday I would still wear it (smaller size i guess) as a badge of honor.

monkeydentity 10-06-11 11:50 PM

also. i really don't think a rearing horse is going to be trademarked so well that you can't make one different ENOUGH but still clearly a clyde. Ferrari would've squished fat cyclist by now if it were that limiting. a google image search will show a ton more companies with a rearing horse of some kind as their logo....and TONS more images of products with similar images.


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