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03-10-14, 10:59 AM
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If your rear hurts, your fit isn't right or you need a different seat. If your legs are sore you slow down a bit and keep going. You can pedal through that. It's all in your head. 
The difference between a successful long distance rider and and unsuccessful one is that the successful one knows that he/she can ride through most difficulties and get to the finish. The unsuccessful one quits because he/she thinks it's too hard. I know a guy who completed a 1200km (750miles) event in less than 90hrs having only been on a bike 4 times in the previous year just to do the qualifying rides. I was off the bike because of an illness for almost 9 months and my first ride was a century. Not a big deal. I was slower than a slug but I finished and had a great time.
Training is important in that it makes it easier and faster. It doesn't make it possible (assuming you have some kind of reasonable fitness level).
The difference between a successful long distance rider and and unsuccessful one is that the successful one knows that he/she can ride through most difficulties and get to the finish. The unsuccessful one quits because he/she thinks it's too hard. I know a guy who completed a 1200km (750miles) event in less than 90hrs having only been on a bike 4 times in the previous year just to do the qualifying rides. I was off the bike because of an illness for almost 9 months and my first ride was a century. Not a big deal. I was slower than a slug but I finished and had a great time.
Training is important in that it makes it easier and faster. It doesn't make it possible (assuming you have some kind of reasonable fitness level).
And you are right with the "assuming you have kind of reasonable fitness level". "Reasonable" is relative.
03-10-14, 11:02 AM
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I've solved my long weeks with a Plan B income that is moving to a Plan A income. I took those extra hours and put it towards something that will help me out. Not that my employer was bad because they weren't. Always treated me well with a fair income but other than my paycheck it wasn't moving me forward.
03-10-14, 11:36 AM
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I've solved my long weeks with a Plan B income that is moving to a Plan A income. I took those extra hours and put it towards something that will help me out. Not that my employer was bad because they weren't. Always treated me well with a fair income but other than my paycheck it wasn't moving me forward.
Pretty much every system is now well in hand, except for when they break them during releases and such. Now a large component of my workload is scaling exercises and load tests. These offer HUGE payoffs in hours, as they avoid issues before rather then post production. Still get the late night call now and again, but blessedly fairly rare...
03-10-14, 11:38 AM
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I may be wrong but you can't just jump on a bike and expect your rump to be in shape for a ride that is significantly longer than you are used to. Again I may be wrong and with the wrong saddle or fit.
And you are right with the "assuming you have kind of reasonable fitness level". "Reasonable" is relative.
And you are right with the "assuming you have kind of reasonable fitness level". "Reasonable" is relative.
People think that riding long distances is some kind of superhuman thing and it isn't. It's all about moderating your effort and not stopping. I did a century after not being on the bike for almost 9 months without any "seat" issues. I could have done a second one if I wanted to ride all night. Null66 is a great example. He can do the distance without difficulty. What he is trying to do is ensure that he can do it within the time limits. That's where the training comes in. I've been doing long distance events since the early 90's and seen a lot of stuff. People like to make it out to be a lot more than it actually is.
03-10-14, 11:39 AM
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I'm a tuner, large scale information systems. I "solved" the long hours (for the most part) by fixing the systems. It takes a large environment to keep a dedicated tuner on hand. We have like just short of 300 production systems, not counting federated implementations.
Pretty much every system is now well in hand, except for when they break them during releases and such. Now a large component of my workload is scaling exercises and load tests. These offer HUGE payoffs in hours, as they avoid issues before rather then post production. Still get the late night call now and again, but blessedly fairly rare...
Pretty much every system is now well in hand, except for when they break them during releases and such. Now a large component of my workload is scaling exercises and load tests. These offer HUGE payoffs in hours, as they avoid issues before rather then post production. Still get the late night call now and again, but blessedly fairly rare...
03-10-14, 11:42 AM
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By reasonable I mean you're not crippled or some such thing. People think that riding long distances is some kind of superhuman thing and it isn't. It's all about moderating your effort and not stopping. I did a century after not being on the bike for almost 9 months without any "seat" issues. I could have done a second one if I wanted to ride all night. Null66 is a great example. He can do the distance without difficulty. What he is trying to do is ensure that he can do it within the time limits. That's where the training comes in. I've been doing long distance events since the early 90's and seen a lot of stuff. People like to make it out to be a lot more than it actually is.
People think that riding long distances is some kind of superhuman thing and it isn't. It's all about moderating your effort and not stopping. I did a century after not being on the bike for almost 9 months without any "seat" issues. I could have done a second one if I wanted to ride all night. Null66 is a great example. He can do the distance without difficulty. What he is trying to do is ensure that he can do it within the time limits. That's where the training comes in. I've been doing long distance events since the early 90's and seen a lot of stuff. People like to make it out to be a lot more than it actually is.
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It's like 9.6. I run about 11-12 on 30+ mile rides, climbing kills me. I intend to start slow, avoid approaching target HR... I got the low gears to climb a wall My bike build has The Blue Ridge Parkway loaded on the "someday list". It does mean I sacrificed top gears, but I'd rather have an extra down low then up high... For long rides I usually set a target average speed and only recovery pedal, if much above that... recovery pedal: shift into really high gear, cadence < 60 but put little to no torque on it. This helps the heart move blood and helps legs with circulation. I think I got that from Davidson...
I usually aim for 14-15mph moving average on rides up to about 40 miles, and as the distance increases so I drop my expected average. If I'm riding away from town and don't have to stop at junctions and traffic lights every mile or so it goes up a bit.
I'm learning to watch HR to not blow out... I have very little swing, just getting on the bike HR goes to 90+, seems like in current conditioning I need to stay < 128 for infinitely sustainable ride. But when I eat, it adds 10 to baseline, and curve goes up. As I tire, base and curve goes up... Once I exceed 128 it gets easy to hit 130's and the more I exceed target the faster and further I exceed target...
Thanks for acknowlegeing the know better but did it anyway's! That helps a lot!
Thanks!
I doubt anyone will be riding at my pace. At my size, I'm hell on wheels downhill, and just in hell on the uphill.
I like idea of still moving while eating/recovering. Anytime you can replace a 0 with non-0 is a good way to up the average!
I doubt anyone will be riding at my pace. At my size, I'm hell on wheels downhill, and just in hell on the uphill.
I like idea of still moving while eating/recovering. Anytime you can replace a 0 with non-0 is a good way to up the average!
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Riding three days per week as recommended in this link will not increase fitness.
If you are already fit, it only takes 4 rides per week to maintain fitness.
5-6 rides per week is needed for improvement with moderation and consistency being keys to improvement. Too much quality too soon is the kiss of death.
There is tons of research on this.
If you are already fit, it only takes 4 rides per week to maintain fitness.
5-6 rides per week is needed for improvement with moderation and consistency being keys to improvement. Too much quality too soon is the kiss of death.
There is tons of research on this.
My wife thought 10 miles was a long way to cycle until she decided she wanted to attempt a 100k, and used that very plan to train towards it. She built up her distances just as the plan suggested, then rode a 100k. Now she's wanting to do 100 miles.
5-6 rides per week is all well and good but muscles need time to rest and most people simply don't have the time to ride that frequently. Too much too soon is more of a kiss of death.
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If your rear hurts, your fit isn't right or you need a different seat. If your legs are sore you slow down a bit and keep going. You can pedal through that. It's all in your head.
The difference between a successful long distance rider and and unsuccessful one is that the successful one knows that he/she can ride through most difficulties and get to the finish. The unsuccessful one quits because he/she thinks it's too hard. I know a guy who completed a 1200km (750miles) event in less than 90hrs having only been on a bike 4 times in the previous year just to do the qualifying rides. I was off the bike because of an illness for almost 9 months and my first ride was a century. Not a big deal. I was slower than a slug but I finished and had a great time.
The difference between a successful long distance rider and and unsuccessful one is that the successful one knows that he/she can ride through most difficulties and get to the finish. The unsuccessful one quits because he/she thinks it's too hard. I know a guy who completed a 1200km (750miles) event in less than 90hrs having only been on a bike 4 times in the previous year just to do the qualifying rides. I was off the bike because of an illness for almost 9 months and my first ride was a century. Not a big deal. I was slower than a slug but I finished and had a great time.
My ride yesterday was easy on the way out - my legs were fresh and I had a tailwind. Then at the furthest point I stopped at the control, had a coffee and a cake, and set off on the return leg. Straight into a headwind. So immediately I knew I was going to be dealing with a headwind for the ~60km back to the starting point and probably for the ~30km from there back home. But whatever happened, I had to get home. I could have bailed and taken the train at any one of a number of places but that would have been a major hassle, more hassle than just keeping the pedals turning. So on the flats I was looking to hold 12-13mph and when the road turned skywards I just dropped through the gears and took as long as it took. When the gradient went into double digits and didn't look like it was levelling out any time soon I just turned the pedals at whatever speed I could manage while humming tunes to myself and trying hard not to think about the hill. There were a few hills I really didn't think I was going to be able to climb without getting off and walking, but some simple self-distraction got me to the top of all of them.
If there had been an easy train from where I was to somewhere close to home the temptation to just jump on the train to avoid the relentless headwind would probably have been stronger.
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03-10-14, 12:14 PM
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I find that I enjoy the longer distances the more that I do. And I've only done a few. For me a longer distance has been a 100k and a 100 miler but if I can do the training then I'm going for more of those and longer. When I hit 100lbs lost (soon) I'll get a bike that is better suited for it. Right now I have a hybrid and though I like it I am putting more effort into a mile than a different bike would take. Each mile adds up.
What hybrid do you have?
I've seen many really nice hybrids.
My SO used to ride a Giant hybrid that is marvelous! I think it is out of production. It was a higher end variant they sold only a couple years. Maybe 18-20lbs w/ rack, nice wheels, and decent running gear! The only thing not marvelous was the disc brakes. They were not BB7s, 5's if I remember correctly, so adjustment was less convenient. She put at least 2k on that before she bought her Specialized Dolche. The hybrid would be neglected, but her daughter rides it on occasion...
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I find that I enjoy the longer distances the more that I do. And I've only done a few. For me a longer distance has been a 100k and a 100 miler but if I can do the training then I'm going for more of those and longer. When I hit 100lbs lost (soon) I'll get a bike that is better suited for it. Right now I have a hybrid and though I like it I am putting more effort into a mile than a different bike would take. Each mile adds up.
03-10-14, 12:26 PM
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One other thing that can be handy is when you don't have a bailout plan to speak of.
My ride yesterday was easy on the way out - my legs were fresh and I had a tailwind. Then at the furthest point I stopped at the control, had a coffee and a cake, and set off on the return leg. Straight into a headwind. So immediately I knew I was going to be dealing with a headwind for the ~60km back to the starting point and probably for the ~30km from there back home. But whatever happened, I had to get home. I could have bailed and taken the train at any one of a number of places but that would have been a major hassle, more hassle than just keeping the pedals turning. So on the flats I was looking to hold 12-13mph and when the road turned skywards I just dropped through the gears and took as long as it took. When the gradient went into double digits and didn't look like it was levelling out any time soon I just turned the pedals at whatever speed I could manage while humming tunes to myself and trying hard not to think about the hill. There were a few hills I really didn't think I was going to be able to climb without getting off and walking, but some simple self-distraction got me to the top of all of them.
If there had been an easy train from where I was to somewhere close to home the temptation to just jump on the train to avoid the relentless headwind would probably have been stronger.
My ride yesterday was easy on the way out - my legs were fresh and I had a tailwind. Then at the furthest point I stopped at the control, had a coffee and a cake, and set off on the return leg. Straight into a headwind. So immediately I knew I was going to be dealing with a headwind for the ~60km back to the starting point and probably for the ~30km from there back home. But whatever happened, I had to get home. I could have bailed and taken the train at any one of a number of places but that would have been a major hassle, more hassle than just keeping the pedals turning. So on the flats I was looking to hold 12-13mph and when the road turned skywards I just dropped through the gears and took as long as it took. When the gradient went into double digits and didn't look like it was levelling out any time soon I just turned the pedals at whatever speed I could manage while humming tunes to myself and trying hard not to think about the hill. There were a few hills I really didn't think I was going to be able to climb without getting off and walking, but some simple self-distraction got me to the top of all of them.
If there had been an easy train from where I was to somewhere close to home the temptation to just jump on the train to avoid the relentless headwind would probably have been stronger.
For the 200k, I can call my SO if it goes horribly wrong in some mechanical or medical way. But for the next (August), It's likely she'll be there with me, daughter too if her knee heals up enough.
What people have shared has been an incredible help...
Certain to reduce the discomfort on the 200k!
The stories are interesting as stuff happens and well, knowing someone else beat their challenge puts any challenge presented in perspective!
Yesterday's ride had some serious winds, not steady, but more then enough to cut our ride short. In a way funny, Headwinds out of the north on the way out, west when we turned west and then out of the south when headed south.
There were several times our airspeed doubled our ground speed. Others where the wind totally negated the down hill. Play with your motivation to pedal as though you're going flat or uphill but your definitely down hill.
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03-10-14, 12:42 PM
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For my longer rides they are out and back. In the beginning I know if I ride "out that way" until I start to get tired I still have to come back. That forces me to overcome the mental. If I get to do my 200 miler I'm going to have my wife drop me off 200 miles (bike path + whatever) away so there is no easy bailout and I have the added mental benefit of getting closer and closer to home.
03-10-14, 12:44 PM
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Cool!
What hybrid do you have?
I've seen many really nice hybrids.
My SO used to ride a Giant hybrid that is marvelous! I think it is out of production. It was a higher end variant they sold only a couple years. Maybe 18-20lbs w/ rack, nice wheels, and decent running gear! The only thing not marvelous was the disc brakes. They were not BB7s, 5's if I remember correctly, so adjustment was less convenient. She put at least 2k on that before she bought her Specialized Dolche. The hybrid would be neglected, but her daughter rides it on occasion...
What hybrid do you have?
I've seen many really nice hybrids.
My SO used to ride a Giant hybrid that is marvelous! I think it is out of production. It was a higher end variant they sold only a couple years. Maybe 18-20lbs w/ rack, nice wheels, and decent running gear! The only thing not marvelous was the disc brakes. They were not BB7s, 5's if I remember correctly, so adjustment was less convenient. She put at least 2k on that before she bought her Specialized Dolche. The hybrid would be neglected, but her daughter rides it on occasion...
03-10-14, 01:19 PM
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03-10-14, 01:35 PM
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You do because the more you ride the better your conditioning and the more comfortable you will be. No argument from me there. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to diminish the value of training. I just think that it is important to understand that these distances/goals are not impossible and that they are attainable by all of us.
03-10-14, 01:41 PM
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Yep, that is the mental end of it. In all my years of doing long distance events the muscle between the ears has caused more DNF's than anything else that I know of. Wind can be especially demonizing. I remember one event where we were riding into 35-45mph headwinds with gusts to 70-80mph (kind of like this, I'm that little speck in there)
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Yep, that is the mental end of it. In all my years of doing long distance events the muscle between the ears has caused more DNF's than anything else that I know of. Wind can be especially demonizing. I remember one event where we were riding into 35-45mph headwinds with gusts to 70-80mph (kind of like this, I'm that little speck in there)
I remember last year when I was cycling to a friend's house some 80 miles from home there were a few things I found particularly discouraging.
Firstly I'd done the ride before, so it wasn't as if I had anything to prove.
Secondly there were bands of heavy rain and hail, and the roads were wet with running water for a time afterwards, which I just found sapped my morale.
Then there was the fact I cycled right past four train stations, each of which could have given me a much faster and easier way to get there.
The trip meter on my GPS showed I was less than half way there, so it would have been quicker to return home and take the car.
Once I'd cycled past the last of the easy train stations I was past the half way mark so it was easier to cycle the rest of the route than turn back. Curiously once I'd reached that point it didn't even occur to me to take the train - my friend lived 15 miles from the nearest station and I knew by the time I reached the next station I only had about 25 miles to go, and if the train was only going to save me 10 miles I might as well just keep the pedals turning.
It can be comforting to know you've got a bailout plan if it all goes catastrophically wrong, but also good to know the bailout plan is truly a last resort. Some of my 200k rides have taken me within about 50 miles of where my dad lives, and he has often said if I'm stuck to give him a call and he'll come and get me. It's good to know I've got the option but I'd rather press on and sort things out myself than have him drive 50 miles to get me, then another 50 to get me back to my car, then another 50 to get home again. I know he'd do it if I needed it, but I wouldn't ask him to do it unless there really was no other way.
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03-11-14, 03:42 AM
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Yep, that is the mental end of it. In all my years of doing long distance events the muscle between the ears has caused more DNF's than anything else that I know of. Wind can be especially demonizing. I remember one event where we were riding into 35-45mph headwinds with gusts to 70-80mph (kind of like this, I'm that little speck in there)
Damn!
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Gorgeous vacation ride with Mary!
Summary
Distance: 31.43 mi
Time: 3:09:08
Avg Speed: 10.0 mph
Elevation Gain: 531 ft
Calories: 2,228 C
Avg Temperature: 82.6 °F
Details
Timing
Time: 3:09:08
Moving Time: 3:05:48
Elapsed Time: 5:24:10
Avg Speed: 10.0 mph
Avg Moving Speed: 10.1 mph
Max Speed: 24.5 mph
SpeedPace
Elevation
Elevation Gain: 531 ft
Elevation Loss: 591 ft
Min Elevation: 230 ft
Max Elevation: 654 ft
Cadence
Avg Bike Cadence: 68 rpm
Max Bike Cadence: 152 rpm
Summary
Distance: 31.43 mi
Time: 3:09:08
Avg Speed: 10.0 mph
Elevation Gain: 531 ft
Calories: 2,228 C
Avg Temperature: 82.6 °F
Details
Timing
Time: 3:09:08
Moving Time: 3:05:48
Elapsed Time: 5:24:10
Avg Speed: 10.0 mph
Avg Moving Speed: 10.1 mph
Max Speed: 24.5 mph
SpeedPace
Elevation
Elevation Gain: 531 ft
Elevation Loss: 591 ft
Min Elevation: 230 ft
Max Elevation: 654 ft
Cadence
Avg Bike Cadence: 68 rpm
Max Bike Cadence: 152 rpm
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That is sand. My skin was nice and soft after getting exfoliated out there. I don't have a good snow picture. I do have a heavy rain on the tandem pick (ohio)
Or by a tornado (it's off to the right. Kansas)
There's no bad weather in this one. It's just cool. (Somewhere on the plains) I just love riding.
I don't have a good snow picture. I do have a heavy rain on the tandem pick (ohio)Or by a tornado (it's off to the right. Kansas)
There's no bad weather in this one. It's just cool. (Somewhere on the plains) I just love riding.
03-11-14, 07:30 PM
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I'm a tuner, large scale information systems. I "solved" the long hours (for the most part) by fixing the systems. It takes a large environment to keep a dedicated tuner on hand. We have like just short of 300 production systems, not counting federated implementations.
Pretty much every system is now well in hand, except for when they break them during releases and such. Now a large component of my workload is scaling exercises and load tests. These offer HUGE payoffs in hours, as they avoid issues before rather then post production. Still get the late night call now and again, but blessedly fairly rare...
Pretty much every system is now well in hand, except for when they break them during releases and such. Now a large component of my workload is scaling exercises and load tests. These offer HUGE payoffs in hours, as they avoid issues before rather then post production. Still get the late night call now and again, but blessedly fairly rare...
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Very I Interestes!
I obsessively study, first one thing then another...
All information is good. Currently, I've liked:
Osmo Nutrition
as input.
Speaks about buffering the blood from metabolic byproducts, seems directly related to reducing / managing gout.
It's like 9.6. I run about 11-12 on 30+ mile rides, climbing kills me. I intend to start slow, avoid approaching target HR... I got the low gears to climb a wall My bike build has The Blue Ridge Parkway loaded on the "someday list". It does mean I sacrificed top gears, but I'd rather have an extra down low then up high... For long rides I usually set a target average speed and only recovery pedal, if much above that... recovery pedal: shift into really high gear, cadence < 60 but put little to no torque on it. This helps the heart move blood and helps legs with circulation. I think I got that from Davidson...
I'm learning to watch HR to not blow out... I have very little swing, just getting on the bike HR goes to 90+, seems like in current conditioning I need to stay < 128 for infinitely sustainable ride. But when I eat, it adds 10 to baseline, and curve goes up. As I tire, base and curve goes up... Once I exceed 128 it gets easy to hit 130's and the more I exceed target the faster and further I exceed target...
Thanks for acknowlegeing the know better but did it anyway's! That helps a lot!
I'm 47, almost 48, 6' 265 recreational lifter, flirting with the dark side. Last year's maxes, DL 575, free Squat 2x550, Machine squat 819, machine MP 350, Machine decline bench 5x5x450 as that's the machine's max with 45lb plates. I will never compete, as I have too many injuries and 1 in particular would have to be fixed to bench press and that's a 2 year recovery. I'm also IT / dotcomm survivor, no stranger to 100+ hour weeks or 40 hour days... I won't work like that anymore, too caustic to health!
I Would love to do longer distances. It is what I enjoy most! The weather has negated that, COld and gout just don't get along. I'm collecting cold weather gear... But one bad decision in this regard and I'm off the bike for a week at least. So that leaves indoor interval training as the majority of what's possible. I get in rides when I can with SO, again weather limited. One solo ride, I had not recovered from intervals enough to hit planned mileage, so did 30 instead.
Training and my relationship with hills is why I am not concerned with making controls at this point. At touring speed, all mileage is possible!
Thanks!
I doubt anyone will be riding at my pace. At my size, I'm hell on wheels downhill, and just in hell on the uphill.
I like idea of still moving while eating/recovering. Anytime you can replace a 0 with non-0 is a good way to up the average!
I obsessively study, first one thing then another...
All information is good. Currently, I've liked:
Osmo Nutrition
as input.
Speaks about buffering the blood from metabolic byproducts, seems directly related to reducing / managing gout.
It's like 9.6. I run about 11-12 on 30+ mile rides, climbing kills me. I intend to start slow, avoid approaching target HR... I got the low gears to climb a wall My bike build has The Blue Ridge Parkway loaded on the "someday list". It does mean I sacrificed top gears, but I'd rather have an extra down low then up high... For long rides I usually set a target average speed and only recovery pedal, if much above that... recovery pedal: shift into really high gear, cadence < 60 but put little to no torque on it. This helps the heart move blood and helps legs with circulation. I think I got that from Davidson...
I'm learning to watch HR to not blow out... I have very little swing, just getting on the bike HR goes to 90+, seems like in current conditioning I need to stay < 128 for infinitely sustainable ride. But when I eat, it adds 10 to baseline, and curve goes up. As I tire, base and curve goes up... Once I exceed 128 it gets easy to hit 130's and the more I exceed target the faster and further I exceed target...
Thanks for acknowlegeing the know better but did it anyway's! That helps a lot!
I'm 47, almost 48, 6' 265 recreational lifter, flirting with the dark side. Last year's maxes, DL 575, free Squat 2x550, Machine squat 819, machine MP 350, Machine decline bench 5x5x450 as that's the machine's max with 45lb plates. I will never compete, as I have too many injuries and 1 in particular would have to be fixed to bench press and that's a 2 year recovery. I'm also IT / dotcomm survivor, no stranger to 100+ hour weeks or 40 hour days... I won't work like that anymore, too caustic to health!
I Would love to do longer distances. It is what I enjoy most! The weather has negated that, COld and gout just don't get along. I'm collecting cold weather gear... But one bad decision in this regard and I'm off the bike for a week at least. So that leaves indoor interval training as the majority of what's possible. I get in rides when I can with SO, again weather limited. One solo ride, I had not recovered from intervals enough to hit planned mileage, so did 30 instead.
Training and my relationship with hills is why I am not concerned with making controls at this point. At touring speed, all mileage is possible!
Thanks!
I doubt anyone will be riding at my pace. At my size, I'm hell on wheels downhill, and just in hell on the uphill.
I like idea of still moving while eating/recovering. Anytime you can replace a 0 with non-0 is a good way to up the average!
I still can't understand your cycling workouts or training plan based upon your heart rates.
With respect to your max heart rate, either your monitor is defective, you are on blood pressure medication, or need to see a Cardiologist. Your max heart rate is low for your age and exercise level.
I wish you the best of luck on the 200K. Anything is possible. I had a friend who rode off the front in his first race and was a Cat 2 by the end of the year but he died skiing off cliffs for fun. Best skier imaginable. Who would have thought it would have killed him.
03-11-14, 08:33 PM
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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
section. We were talking about a couple interrelating things. Why we're Clydes. Why we have some unusual health challenges. How those health challenges can be accommodated for while riding.
I am a Clyde by act of god, but a Pachy by choice... Meaning I'm large by nature. That if I got down to min healthy weight I would still be here. But, my profession requires massive hours both to get there and then by it's very nature. Nothing like not sleeping to ruin your health, well add massive stress...
By choice: I like being fairly strong. Also turns out one of the best ways to combat Insulin Resistance (or type 2 diabetes) is to put on a lot of new muscle... So double win. But climbing becomes a challenge as the weight goes up... The 200k has 7800 feet of climb.
Hydration and fueling can be significant. I can drain a camelback in a surprisingly short ride if the temp is high...
So yeah, it is cycling related. Just that the relationship is rather particular to the challenges we're both doing.
WonderMonkey's goal is back to back Centuries... Pretty serious accomplishment from where he's at.
Mine, the distance is doable, its the climbs. I got the descents covered!
03-11-14, 08:47 PM
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Impressive weight lifting stats but not sure how they relate to what I wrote.
I still can't understand your cycling workouts or training plan based upon your heart rates.
With respect to your max heart rate, either your monitor is defective, you are on blood pressure medication, or need to see a Cardiologist. Your max heart rate is low for your age and exercise level.
I wish you the best of luck on the 200K. Anything is possible. I had a friend who rode off the front in his first race and was a Cat 2 by the end of the year but he died skiing off cliffs for fun. Best skier imaginable. Who would have thought it would have killed him.
I still can't understand your cycling workouts or training plan based upon your heart rates.
With respect to your max heart rate, either your monitor is defective, you are on blood pressure medication, or need to see a Cardiologist. Your max heart rate is low for your age and exercise level.
I wish you the best of luck on the 200K. Anything is possible. I had a friend who rode off the front in his first race and was a Cat 2 by the end of the year but he died skiing off cliffs for fun. Best skier imaginable. Who would have thought it would have killed him.
Sorry copy paste error on trying to fudge a multi reply... Saw button for that just this morning...
The stats are "normal" for my size and age for a serious lifter. Nothing to write home about. It is just a lot of people say they lift, analogous to people who say they ride, and it's twice, on a mup, for 4 total miles, last year...
Heart rate, not that the ones at the gym are anything to go by, but several all read about the same. I haven't seen any sources that say a low max is a risk. But I wonder given the 220-age if it indicates premature aging. Then again, I wonder if I'm in such $#1+ shape that maybe:
1) my body can't drive a high heart rate
2) heart / lung conditioning is so poor it is a local max and will improve with training
3) it's indicative of a problem
4) a result of heavy lifting (large volume per stroke)
5) If I can get performance up to "normal" levels does it matter...
I've had stress test a while ago. A recent angiogram due allergen exposure... All blood work is rather decent...
But yeah, a cardiologist for an actual max test has crossed my mind.