View Poll Results: Which is better for expensive and recognizable locks such as the Kryptonite New York?
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Expensive lock brands tempt thieves more?
#26
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From: New Jersey
Got a Krytonite new york u-lock as a gift. It's brightly colored yellow and easily recognizable. Thought crossed my mind if obscuring the brand by taping it up be more beneficial?
Leaving it as-is would scream to thieves:
[I]"I'm that yellow u-lock that is tough to break unless you got a the time to grind/torch me off. Better off picking some other bike."[/I
At the same time it also screams:
"Hey, expensive lock here which means bike is worth a ton to steal. Well worth the time!"
Leaving it as-is would scream to thieves:
[I]"I'm that yellow u-lock that is tough to break unless you got a the time to grind/torch me off. Better off picking some other bike."[/I
At the same time it also screams:
"Hey, expensive lock here which means bike is worth a ton to steal. Well worth the time!"
#27
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From: Southeastern Pennsylvania
Bikes: 2012 Breezer Uptown Infinity, Fuji Varsity
Where are you locking the bike? For how long? How often? What is bike theft like in that area? You have to answer these questions. You might find that locking up in the same place all day long is not a good idea, no matter what lock you have. Here in NYC, crime has gone way down, but bike theft has not. It's pretty bad. I'm lucky that my employer lets me bring my bike inside. I don't even carry a lock!
You guys may not believe this, but one time i went to a thing very very early morning via the bus... i left my old bike unattended literally all day unlocked WITH THE HELMET HANGING OFF IT! This was a solid 14 hours later when i got back.... nothing had been moved or touched...... It was beat to hell, duct tape etc etc so maybe it didn't look appealing but...... but i would never leave my new bike unlocked like that even for 4 minutes.
- Andy
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[MENTION=369902]TransitBiker[/MENTION], I believe it. As [MENTION=1775]Dahon.Steve[/MENTION] says, the location matters. I lived in a safe town in NJ and did all kinds of silly things such as "locking" my bike with a bungee cord.
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#29
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Given all things equal. Will an expensive eye catchy lock brand attract thieves more because they assume the bike has value and ez to spot or deter them more since it is harder to break?
So a generic no-name looking bike that doesn't scream expensive is locked to a rack near others in a location with theft rate of 5% using a normal u-lock. Now, swap that lock for an eye catchy yellow kryptonite lock. Is the chance of theft higher or lower than 5%?
#30
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From: Southeastern Pennsylvania
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In general, if you make the bike look like it's not worth much, the lock doesn't matter. The fancy lock could be borrowed or a gift for all the "theif" knows.
I am very fortunate that i have a fairly unique bike that would be very hard for a theif to modify significantly to avoid it being spotted. They would lose money trying to do that. I also have the frame number and serial number and registered with manufacturer and local law enforcement database. The lock isn't really needed around here, but it gives me peace of mind.
- Andy
I am very fortunate that i have a fairly unique bike that would be very hard for a theif to modify significantly to avoid it being spotted. They would lose money trying to do that. I also have the frame number and serial number and registered with manufacturer and local law enforcement database. The lock isn't really needed around here, but it gives me peace of mind.
- Andy
#31
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From: New Jersey
I think some people here are missing the point of the thread and talking about how to lock, where to lock and type of bike.
Given all things equal. Will an expensive eye catchy lock brand attract thieves more because they assume the bike has value and ez to spot or deter them more since it is harder to break?
So a generic no-name looking bike that doesn't scream expensive is locked to a rack near others in a location with theft rate of 5% using a normal u-lock. Now, swap that lock for an eye catchy yellow kryptonite lock. Is the chance of theft higher or lower than 5%?
Given all things equal. Will an expensive eye catchy lock brand attract thieves more because they assume the bike has value and ez to spot or deter them more since it is harder to break?
So a generic no-name looking bike that doesn't scream expensive is locked to a rack near others in a location with theft rate of 5% using a normal u-lock. Now, swap that lock for an eye catchy yellow kryptonite lock. Is the chance of theft higher or lower than 5%?
#32
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I never assumed thieves don't know value. However, there are many different types of thieves with wide range of knowledge. A lock doesn't make a bike more expensive, but it can catch the eye for further inspection.
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