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Old 06-26-15 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
200m is a sprint. 4 miles is not a sprint.
A 4 mile sprint at 30 mph? No problem, piece of cake.











Just point me out a nice straight, uninterrupted, 4 mile long hill to ride down.
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Old 06-26-15 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hardboiled718
How long are you maintaining that speed?
*sprint*
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Old 06-26-15 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jfowler85
1) You're probably lying.
You exposed me! In reality I'm a fred who is is sick and tired of being passed by long distance commuters who can actually ride at 20 mph (after a 4 mile warm up)!
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Old 06-26-15 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
200m is a sprint. 4 miles is not a sprint.
Call it what you want... I can average riding faster for 4 miles than I can ride for 20 miles or 100+ miles.

And there is no need to conserve lots of energy for the rest of the ride.
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Old 06-26-15 | 08:04 PM
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i would happily race any pro road racer (but not a track racer) on my dilapidated beater (32x11 is the highest ratio) vs my 16 lb road bike for prize money.
Oh, ok.
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Old 06-27-15 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by john4789
Oh, ok.
The engine matters a lot but gear ratios also matter a lot. All sorts of fancy training regimens (and diet) can help you be a faster sprinter but if one really wants to have a faster cruising speed they need to continuously ride in a higher ratio until it becomes comfortable and then ride in a higher ratio again. And that's my wisdom as an almost 50 year old who smokes cat 6 whippersnappers every damn day.
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Old 06-27-15 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
TAnd that's my wisdom as an almost 50 year old who smokes cat 6 whippersnappers every damn day.
Do the whippersnappers know that they are in a race with a bicycling stud? Or that they are even in a race at all?
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Old 06-27-15 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Do the whippersnappers know that they are in a race with a bicycling stud? Or that they are even in a race at all?
On my commute we often form a small peloton west-bound up the Hawthorne bridge. Fun.
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Old 06-27-15 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
On my commute we often form a small peloton west-bound up the Hawthorne bridge. Fun.
Do Portland bike commuters really willingly follow strangers that closely at any kind of speed for any kind of distance (peloton style); do Portland bike commuters really willingly allow strangers to follow them that closely at speed for any kind of distance?

If so, what for; to gain a few seconds on the commute?

Doesn't sound like fun to me.
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Old 06-27-15 | 02:58 PM
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4 miles and you're done. You could do that at a full sprint.
A "real sprint" usually lasts only about 10-30 seconds at most and anything longer then that is not a sprint.
The energy system in a human body can only generate enough ATP to allow about 10-30 seconds of maximal speed or power and after that you slow down. There is no human being who can ride 4 miles in 10-30 seconds.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Do Portland bike commuters really willingly follow strangers that closely at any kind of speed for any kind of distance (peloton style); do Portland bike commuters really willingly allow strangers to follow them that closely at speed for any kind of distance?

If so, what for; to gain a few seconds on the commute?

Doesn't sound like fun to me.
Makes the time go a little faster and it can be enjoyable. Once you've had some experience the risks are quite low.
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Old 06-27-15 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel

It takes me a minute or two to hit 30 mph.
1-2 minutes ??. What's taking you so long ??...On a flat road with no wind, I can go from 0-30 in less then a minute on my fixed gear commuter bike , but I can only maintain that speed for few seconds before spinning out and then I need to slow down.

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Originally Posted by wolfchild
A "real sprint" usually lasts only about 10-30 seconds at most and anything longer then that is not a sprint.
The energy system in a human body can only generate enough ATP to allow about 10-30 seconds of maximal speed or power and after that you slow down. There is no human being who can ride 4 miles in 10-30 seconds.
True,
But there are a couple of people that are able to maintain 30 MPH (2 minute miles) for an hour without drafting.
Excluding stop lights, they should be able to finish the 4 mile ride in about 8 minutes, perhaps a bit less, after all, it is only 8 minutes, and not an hour.
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Old 06-28-15 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
1-2 minutes ??. What's taking you so long ??...On a flat road with no wind, I can go from 0-30 in less then a minute on my fixed gear commuter bike , but I can only maintain that speed for few seconds before spinning out and then I need to slow down.
I originally wrote about a minute but decided that the commuting forum was not ready for that kind of honesty.

(I tire of the sarcastic exclamations that anyone who can sustain 25 mph should be riding the tour de france.)
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Old 06-28-15 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
True,
But there are a couple of people that are able to maintain 30 MPH (2 minute miles) for an hour without drafting.
Excluding stop lights, they should be able to finish the 4 mile ride in about 8 minutes, perhaps a bit less, after all, it is only 8 minutes, and not an hour.

A couple of people. Hahahahahaha!
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Old 06-28-15 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
I originally wrote about a minute but decided that the commuting forum was not ready for that kind of honesty.

(I tire of the sarcastic exclamations that anyone who can sustain 25 mph should be riding the tour de france.)
Seeing posts on a forum and seeing it in person are two different things (no accusation meant or implied). Typical encounters on my daily commute, running errands, or weekend rides rarely confirm such athletic prowess except for those rare occasions I cross paths with a serious club ride.
Its not exactly being cynical to take such claims with a grain of salt. "if its on the internet it must be true"
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Old 06-28-15 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
*sprint*
I saw that you wrote sprint but you also wrote that it takes you a few minutes to get to that speed. Since sprints don't generally last that long I though you might build up to that as your cruising speed.
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
You exposed me! In reality I'm a fred who is is sick and tired of being passed by long distance commuters who can actually ride at 20 mph (after a 4 mile warm up)!
...ok?
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
A couple of people. Hahahahahaha!
Since the UCI doesn't govern commuters, it might be more.
Graeme Obree would be able to ride with the handlebars of his choice.
And, old Lance (not an hour contender) would be allowed to take the meds of his choice.
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Old 06-29-15 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
True,
But there are a couple of people that are able to maintain 30 MPH (2 minute miles) for an hour without drafting.
Excluding stop lights, they should be able to finish the 4 mile ride in about 8 minutes, perhaps a bit less, after all, it is only 8 minutes, and not an hour.
A couple. An effort like that would get you a top 10 finish at the national championship TT. https://www.usacycling.org/results/i...permit=2015-12
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Old 06-29-15 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
A couple. An effort like that would get you a top 10 finish at the national championship TT. https://www.usacycling.org/results/i...permit=2015-12
That is some deep field you link to. Perhaps you have not followed the recent cattle call of pros who have ridden an hour at 32+. I believe Wiggins just hit 34 mph.

Although to be fair...without pharamceuticals and doping 30 might still be a big barrier.

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