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Old 02-25-16, 12:37 AM
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Saddle? Any recommendations?

Today, I biked to work.
I clocked myself at 16-18 minutes.
I rode along the beach, with the sun in my face.
By car, it's 30 min due to all the crazy soccer moms dropping off kids...stop and go...stupid SUVs

I plan to commute by bike a lot more.

Here's my question.
What do you recommend for a good saddle?

I've heard that Brooks are super comfy, but seem to be a magnet for thieves.
I'm in the SF bay area, and people seem to like to steal stuff here.
Someone stole my bikelight from the front of my office!

Oh, a few details:
I'm riding a Xootr swift with a thudbuster.
I'm 210 lb, have a big rear, and ride fairly upright.
I'll be having north road bars installed.

Any recommendations?
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Old 02-25-16, 01:32 AM
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Hi, I happened to find a review video for the best saddles.
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Old 02-25-16, 01:41 AM
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I can't seem to find a comfortable commuting saddle. I've tried many, the most recent being a Brooks saddle. They said it would get broken in and the leather would conform to your body, but, after 500 miles, the Brooks saddle still hurts. Any suggestions....I love to ride but tired of the pain/numbness down below.
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Best approach is to go to a store that will let you test ride saddles for long enough to actually know if it works, ie a week or more. Now, many shops have policies that let you bring the saddle back much later as long as it is not too beat up and then give you credit toward an new one orif that fails a store credit. A shop here in Portland had a "library". Shell out $25 for a "library card". Pick a saddle and ride it for a week. No go? Try another/ No limit and about 25 saddles. When you find one, that $25 goes toward it.

The usual rule of thumb is for a more upright position, use a wider saddle. Heavier riders often use wider saddles. But, but, but ... we humans are manufactured to wildly different standards. For every rule there are a lot of exceptions. Our butts vary about as much as our faces. You wouldn't go for a long forced march in the boots that so and so likes. Give your butt the same respect you would give your feet.

mlau, I am saying this because I have been riding a long, long time. You are asking about the single most important fit issue on the bike, by a lot. You are right to ask for advice, but take it with a big grain of salt! Not one of us posters knows the answer for you.

Sadly, just finding the seat isn't the end of the challenge. Since every seat will fit you a little differently, where that seat should be on the bike will also change. Get the wrenches you will need to adjust the tilt and back and forth position of the seat as well as the seatpost height. Carry them. Bring tape to mark where things are so you can go back to that setting or go the same amount further.

This is work you will never regret. (It won't be the end. As you grow as a cyclist, you will change and so will the best seat for you. But the best start you can make will help the process a lot.)

Good luck. Find that right one and enjoy it! It's out there.

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Old 02-25-16, 05:25 AM
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I agree with the advice above, plus, for the price of a Brooks, you can afford to experiment with a number of cheaper saddles that have different shapes, widths, and uses.

On my road bike I have a relatively hard and narrow saddle, since I know I'll almost always be wearing padded shorts. For my folding commuter like yours, I went with a thicker and wider mountain biking saddle because I'll almost always wear it riding street clothes.
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Old 02-25-16, 06:24 AM
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I, like a lot of people who ride a lot, won't ride on anything other than a hard leather saddle (Brooks or the like). But I'm not sure I'd recommend that for someone who's just starting out on daily riding. As you get used to the bike, and while you're still adjusting the way the bike fits you and finding the style of riding that works for you, you'll also be adjusting your idea of what's a comfortable saddle.

The most important factor in choosing a saddle, in my opinion, is the height of the handlebar relative to the saddle. The higher the handlebar, the wider the saddle. With the handlebar relatively high, you put more weight on the saddle and may therefore benefit from springs under the saddle; if the handlebar is relatively low then you'll put more weight on your hands/arms and less weight on the saddle, so springs on the saddle just make you bounce, which is annoying.

The thing I like about a hard leather saddle (Brooks or the like) is that (1) there's very little friction between the saddle and my pants, and (2) the material breathes.
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Old 02-25-16, 06:47 AM
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I can't seem to find a comfortable commuting saddle. I've tried many, the most recent being a Brooks saddle. They said it would get broken in and the leather would conform to your body, but, after 500 miles, the Brooks saddle still hurts. Any suggestions....I love to ride but tired of the pain/numbness down below.
I sold my Brooks. Never could my rear end to like it.
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Brooks is the one for me but I always wear padded bike shorts also. The combination does the trick.
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Old 02-25-16, 11:28 AM
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I can tell You what saddle I Bought But You will not be sitting on it.. just go out and try something..

Selle Royale makes a bunch of day to day saddles must have sold a lot of them to Buy Out Brooks ,

they also are making the Fizik Lines of saddles ..

Hit the Bike Shops ,, Take Offs are New saddles just taken off when a New Bike Buyer wanted something else

Its not a Peer approval, Popularity thing, Its between your Butt an your saddle

How about a Copy of the Selle Italia Turbo thru Merry/Soma/ sales the TaiBo

or the Crocs Foam PDW saddle , which is waterproof and the plastic is the padding and the covering
so no Pleather cover to tear https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/cockpi...hronous-saddle

neither cost much maybe 3~4:1 Brooks .

Or how about getting one at a charity shop for a Buck, OK SF Bay area thats $5.

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Old 02-25-16, 12:38 PM
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The advice from 79pmooney is spot on. There's no substitute for trying different saddles to find what works for you.

I like Specialized saddles, particularly the Phenom. They come in multiple widths and Specialized dealer will have you sit on a device that measures your sit bone width and lets the make an educated guess at the width that might work for you. The better models sell for around $100 though.

On a tighter budget, the Charge Spoon is a decent saddle. I don't like it as well as my Phenoms, but I did a week long 335-mile tour on one and didn't regret it.

For 20 minutes of riding the range of what will work for you is probably pretty broad. I find that around an hour is when minor saddle issues start to become problematic for me.
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I've been very very happy with the results of WTB Pure saddles:
WTB Pure V Comp - Freewheel Bike Shop - Minneapolis - Twin Cities - St. Paul

That's the cheaper $40 one, though I have the more expensive $90 one. However it does depend on how well your butt fits the saddle, so it can vary greatly from one person to another.

I also have a big butt, and 240lbs, and ride a road bike but relatively upright - endurance bike I usually ride on the hoods, sometimes on the straight part of the bar (even more upright).
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I think you need to try several. I have found that you can get nice new (or nearly-new) saddles at bike swaps.

Buy a few different shapes and sizes and experiment. Sadly, I don't think that you can short-cut this process.

Sell the saddles that don't work for you at the next bike swap...or donate them to your local bike kitchen...or sell them on Craigslist.

Brooks are expensive so that is not a great place to start. Brooks are not "magic" and they don't work for everyone.

Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Crocs Foam PDW saddle which is waterproof and the plastic is the padding and the covering so no Pleather cover to tear https://www.ridepdw.com/goods/cockpi...hronous-saddle
That looks pretty cool.

OP, as others have said, saddles are very personal, what works for one person's anatomy, another might not be able to stand. Just make sure, as you try things out, that you at least know how to set your saddle up properly (height, tilt, forward/back) so that if you end up having to reject one, it's not because you didn't find the proper way to sit on it.
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Give the Brooks Cambium C17 a try:

BROOKS C17 LOANER FROM BFOLD by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
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Originally Posted by mlau View Post
Today, I biked to work.
I clocked myself at 16-18 minutes.
I rode along the beach, with the sun in my face.
By car, it's 30 min due to all the crazy soccer moms dropping off kids...stop and go...stupid SUVs

I plan to commute by bike a lot more.

Here's my question.
What do you recommend for a good saddle?

I've heard that Brooks are super comfy, but seem to be a magnet for thieves.
I'm in the SF bay area, and people seem to like to steal stuff here.
Someone stole my bikelight from the front of my office!

Oh, a few details:
I'm riding a Xootr swift with a thudbuster.
I'm 210 lb, have a big rear, and ride fairly upright.
I'll be having north road bars installed.

Any recommendations?
No offense meant to the majority of posters that opine about the individuality of saddle choice but, IMO, a lot of it comes down to bike fit, not saddle brand and/or model. IMO you should NOT need North Road bars on a Xootr Swift. I'm just saying. Get your bars 3" to 4" or more if you like, above your saddle height, and you are good to go on the stock bars. If you really need some backward bend consider the "Mary" bars by On One, or anything sold as a "riser bar" 2" of rise should be plenty, you don't need rise in the bars, there is plenty in the stem, you want the pullback, and most riser bars have 15* to 20* of pullback.

For your purposes you can eliminate 80% of saddles sold and concentrate on the wider models sold as "commuter", or "cruiser", or even (!!) "comfort" saddles. I've seen saddles that would serve you well sold in Fred Meyer (dept. store) made by Bell. Trust me on this. You don't need to spend $$$ on a Specialized Road Racing saddle. Terry sells a model called a Cite which is higher quality and more $$ and it gives the width and cush you want along with the higher quality and lighter weight of a more road oriented saddle. FWIW.
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Leisesturn,

Thanks for the input. I don't "need" to put on north road bars, but I just happen to have them in my garage (and know that they fit my components). I've already got an adjustable stem as high as it can go.
I'd installed one before, and really liked it--just forgot where I put it previously.

I was going to first change out the bars, and ride for another month.

If I stick to it, I'll reward myself with a fancy saddle (whatever fits my big butt best, whether it's $20 or $200) at a local bike store. FWIW, I'll be riding in black dress slacks.

-matt

ps. thanks for the tip on the bike fit! i may just go get fitted at my LBS. Was going to get a tuneup.
I'll look into the models that you recommended.
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