Tire Recommendations
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I recall other people finding these tires cheap over the last few years, and they're cheaper in some sizes. I don't think it's a Brexit thing. I bet it's overstock.
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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My wife wants me to tell you, the Cubs game turned out to be a Dodgers game
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Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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Lol! Tell her nice win. To be honest I haven't been a big baseball fan since the 90s. I went out 70% just for a bike ride, 10% to get out of the house, 10% because I'm out of beer, and 10% to see the Cubs game because I dont have that particular cable channel.
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Put on my fenders this weekend. The 37mm tires I had on wouldn't fit in the 45mm fenders (well they kind of fit but I couldn't adjust them to not rub).
My winter road bike handles most 27mm tires just fine and I ordered these really sweet 27mm tires but they don't fit it.
So now my commute bike has hand-made tires that would be at home on a vintage l'Eroica bike. They ride pretty nice.
My winter road bike handles most 27mm tires just fine and I ordered these really sweet 27mm tires but they don't fit it.
So now my commute bike has hand-made tires that would be at home on a vintage l'Eroica bike. They ride pretty nice.
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Voyager Hypers are great tires. I ran 35's on my utility bike and they felt nearly as fast as my GP4000S's on my carbon road bikes. They don't seem very puncture resistant in a commuting context but it may be worth the tradeoff to you. I just bought Schwalbe Marathon Almotions for my rear hub motor e-bike which is a PITA to change tubes on. They're heavy and they won't ride as well as the Hypers but they are a lot more puncture resistant and have a really low rolling resistance for a touring tire.
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[MENTION=445996]Abe_Froman[/MENTION], you will tell us how you like them, won't you?
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How many spokes have broken in that rear wheel? If more than two, you're probably better off replacing all the spokes at one time.
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#61
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) , but figured that might be a touch overkill right now. I'm fairly certain tension is low overall in the wheel, so I'm going to try tightening it up and see if the spokes aren't already over fatigued.
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I run Panaracer T-Serv Protex 700x35s. Love them. Pretty durable over road junk, and very good in wet conditions. Feel a little sticky on dry roads, but if you run them with pressure up not too bad. Plus folding bead which is nice for carrying spares in the bag.
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At 24 miles round trip, I'd prioritize speed slightly over comfort and puncture resistance. A 32-35mm slick-y tire with some sort of puncture protection that isn't too heavy would be ideal. 32mm Gatorskins come to mind. As mentioned, Speed Rides are comfy and relatively fast rolling but at 40+mm they are heavy and sluggish compared to a true slick. I wouldn't use them unless I'm not in a hurry. I'm very curious about the Hypers, though.
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I still can't ride a bike, which is really annoying because it's about the only thing I can't do. Still, I have retail therapy. My commute bike just lost 10 oz and some inappropriate tan walls. Now if only I'd chosen lighter wheels! Maybe that next.
Old vs new. Looks more apropos with the black and logos.

New tire, clearly marked 37-622 and also 700x35c. Buttheads.

Old tire, 32c and 5 oz heavier, probably a lot of that is in the wire bead.
Old vs new. Looks more apropos with the black and logos.

New tire, clearly marked 37-622 and also 700x35c. Buttheads.

Old tire, 32c and 5 oz heavier, probably a lot of that is in the wire bead.
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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Still waiting for mine 
I think they're coming over in a rowboat from England. Either that or I have zero patience. I'm blaming the Brits still though.

I think they're coming over in a rowboat from England. Either that or I have zero patience. I'm blaming the Brits still though.
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The Vittoria Voyager Hyper used to be called Randonneur Hyper, which was unfortunate, because the Randonneur is considered by many to be heavy and slow, and the Voyager Hyper is a fast tire. I'm impressed. One tester found it to have lower rolling resistance than any tire ever tested. Mine are rated at 35mm and measure 37mm.
I buy tires for how they ride, and if that means I won't have puncture protection, I'm cool with that. Same for reflective strips. But the Hyper comes with both. I haven't had a flat. I don't know if the reflective strip works, but I haven't been hit from the side yet.
Overall, this is the best tire I have ever bought, by most measures. I should have gotten the next size down, because it's difficult to fit such a wide tire in my favorite bike.
Continental and Schwalbe make some of the best tires, but their reputations allows them to command high prices. Vittoria tires seem to be at least as good in every respect, and the prices are lower.
I buy tires for how they ride, and if that means I won't have puncture protection, I'm cool with that. Same for reflective strips. But the Hyper comes with both. I haven't had a flat. I don't know if the reflective strip works, but I haven't been hit from the side yet.
Overall, this is the best tire I have ever bought, by most measures. I should have gotten the next size down, because it's difficult to fit such a wide tire in my favorite bike.
Continental and Schwalbe make some of the best tires, but their reputations allows them to command high prices. Vittoria tires seem to be at least as good in every respect, and the prices are lower.
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For me, the absolutely most important criteria is puncture protection. I have direct drive ebike hub on my rear wheel and I do NOT want to fix a flat... especially in crappy weather. I've only had one flat on since I put the ebike kit on. Fortunately, it was a slow leak and I was able to do the tube change in my garage. However, it continued, and I was getting away with just adding air each day for a few days. I had the bike shop change the tube and they inspected the tire, it had a pretty good sized puncture that went all the way through the puncture protection layer (schwalbe marathon plus.) He said I should not be riding it anymore.
Unfortunately, the shop did not carry schwalbe, or I would have bought another as the replacement. I ended up with a specialized all conditions armadillo. I've had good luck with that tire before, but the ride is a little rougher than the schwalbe. It's been fine though... as long as I don't have to deal with a tube changing puncture.
Anyway, with a commuter I just don't want to be fixing flats. With an ebike commuter, I don't care about weight or rolling resistance. Just no flats please.
Unfortunately, the shop did not carry schwalbe, or I would have bought another as the replacement. I ended up with a specialized all conditions armadillo. I've had good luck with that tire before, but the ride is a little rougher than the schwalbe. It's been fine though... as long as I don't have to deal with a tube changing puncture.
Anyway, with a commuter I just don't want to be fixing flats. With an ebike commuter, I don't care about weight or rolling resistance. Just no flats please.
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Well, my Vittoria Voyager Hyper tires finally came in the mail at work today! Took 3 weeks...some sort of shipping snafu.
I'm worried I may have a sizing snafu as well. These things look REALLY big. I ordered what I thought were 38mm width, but is actually 622-40mm. Yeesh, Vittorias sizing is just really weird. It says 38 AND 40 right next to each other, on the tire lol! I'll be able to use the tires regardless, but I may have to ditch my fenders. I've been thinking of putting this bike on a diet anyway, going with a large saddle bag instead of rack/panniers.
I'm worried I may have a sizing snafu as well. These things look REALLY big. I ordered what I thought were 38mm width, but is actually 622-40mm. Yeesh, Vittorias sizing is just really weird. It says 38 AND 40 right next to each other, on the tire lol! I'll be able to use the tires regardless, but I may have to ditch my fenders. I've been thinking of putting this bike on a diet anyway, going with a large saddle bag instead of rack/panniers.
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Yeah, those are the biiiig ones! I think one number is the width and one is the height. The 35/37 size fit on my XR. There's still room in the front for a fender, just. I think the 38/40 would be a very near thing. Way more room in the rear.
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
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Im surprised no one mentioned the legendary Schwalbe Lugano (1st gen) here? its probably the best pound for pound tire price / performance wise. Try them out guys, but make sure to get the first gen with the diamond file tread.
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I finally handled a Continental Gatorskin this week, on display at REI. Good grief, now I know why some users describe them as rolling garden hose. It's more like stiff plastic edging. I've never before felt a tire that felt less like a tire. I don't know how they are for riding but I'd probably choose something a bit more flexible even if it meant risking a flat. And I hate getting flats.
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They fit beautifully! They sit a bit more squat on the rim than my Vittoria Randonneurs, so they barely ate up any of the excess space I have between the fenders vertically, which is what was going to be the issue.
Took the bike out for a quick spin around the neighborhood last night after I put them on. I must say, they do seem a bit faster, even at a smidge lower pressure than what I was running before.
The one thing I noticed was they seem to squeak a bit when cornering. I'm wondering if this is because they are new, or my pressure was on the low side. Anyone else notice that with the Vittoria Voyager Hypers? Other than that couldn't be happier so far.
Took the bike out for a quick spin around the neighborhood last night after I put them on. I must say, they do seem a bit faster, even at a smidge lower pressure than what I was running before.
The one thing I noticed was they seem to squeak a bit when cornering. I'm wondering if this is because they are new, or my pressure was on the low side. Anyone else notice that with the Vittoria Voyager Hypers? Other than that couldn't be happier so far.
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I don't think I've noticed mine squeaking. What pressure did you use, and what's the total bike+rider+cargo load?
We warned you they run big. I'll have to give mine up as a result. I plan to sell my Bianchi, and it's the only bike of mine they fit on.
We warned you they run big. I'll have to give mine up as a result. I plan to sell my Bianchi, and it's the only bike of mine they fit on.
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Size is fine. Total load is probably somewhere between 230-250. I'm 190ish straight out of the shower...plus clothes, bike, rack/panniers/fenders/tools etc.
I started with PSI at 70 rear, 65 front, and there was just a bit of noise. I dropped it down mid ride just to see how the ride felt at lower pressure, and the noise definitely increased. I checked pressure again when I got home and both tires were like 40-45.
I started with PSI at 70 rear, 65 front, and there was just a bit of noise. I dropped it down mid ride just to see how the ride felt at lower pressure, and the noise definitely increased. I checked pressure again when I got home and both tires were like 40-45.




Though, now I need to replace a spoke and retension my rear wheel on that bike....been having spoke breaking issues lately.