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Old 10-29-17, 09:31 AM
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Brrrrrring it!

The winter tires on bike. I rode home in a light snow Thursday...but now I'm ready for winter!
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Perfect timing for you.

In Georgia we just wait for the afternoon sun. Everything, including work, shuts down with even a dusting.
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Old 10-29-17, 11:06 AM
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Where do you live? In Minneapolis we just had our first snow on Friday, and I just studded/fendered up a bike for my brother yesterday. I sort of like riding in the winter!
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Nice!

I'm holding off on studding mine up. This is primarily because I actually like snow, and as soon as I put the studs on, it gets warm. Yes, I have the ability to control the weather.
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Originally Posted by PennyTheDog
Where do you live? In Minneapolis we just had our first snow on Friday, and I just studded/fendered up a bike for my brother yesterday. I sort of like riding in the winter!
Colorado Springs.

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Nice!

I'm holding off on studding mine up. This is primarily because I actually like snow, and as soon as I put the studs on, it gets warm. Yes, I have the ability to control the weather.
I have three bikes, my old MTB commuter gets the studs.

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just put one set of studs on, my gf's bike will get hers this week. actually we use extra wheel sets and change them out when needed. i will say they were a revelation last year. however they do suck on dry roads.
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Those are the Nokia Hakk...something 106's, I presume. I'm thinking of picking up a used pair for a second bike. I have the Schwalbe Winter's on one bike already. Just curious how they roll.

Not putting studs on yet. Maybe another couple, to be safe, but hopefully won't have to use them for another month. Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
however they do suck on dry roads.
I had forgot the "Rice Crispies" sound untill I walked the bike back to the shed.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
Those are the Nokia Hakk...something 106's, I presume. I'm thinking of picking up a used pair for a second bike. I have the Schwalbe Winter's on one bike already. Just curious how they roll.
They're Suomi Nokian W106's. Nokian sold their bike tire business to Suomi. They still sell them in the US as Nokians (I think). I bought mine on Amazon a couple summers ago ($60 for the pair...new!). They came separately. One had a label that made me think it had been for sale in England.

The W106s work perfectly for me. On dry pavement I ride them at their recommended max of 65psi. This puts the studs out of the way for the most part when riding straight, although they still click a bit. You are reminded they are studded when turning and the studs face the pavement. Things can get a bit skittish. Other than that at 65psi they feel like regular knobby dirt tires, which is to say, a little rumbly and with noticably more rolling resistance than slick street tires.

When riding on packed snow and ice I drop them to 32-35 psi and they are stable and secure. Again, there's a higher effort to pedal, but even with the modestly studded W106's (compared to more aggressive winter tires) the W106's are secure and not only allow me to stop on pronounced icy downhills, but also ride up icy streets that cars are fishtailing up.

In fresh, loose snow I drop the PSI to 21-25 and they also work well. But the effort is high. Also I find 3-inches of snow is my practical limit. It's not that I can't ride in deeper snow, but it's such a high effort, and my average speed drops to half my normal average which turns my 45-50 minute commute home into 90-100 minutes, which is not practical.

But under normal packed snow and ice they only add 10 minutes into work and 10 to 15 back (it's uphill).

And they seem to stay soft-ish and sticky down to my limit of 10F.

They're 26x1.6 and I wonder what 700x35s would be like on my main commuter.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
have the Schwalbe Winter's on one bike already. Just curious how they roll.
take it out for a spin!
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
take it out for a spin!
I've had the Schwalbe's for a few years now. They roll like studded tires, which is awful. But I have not basis for comparison, so just wondering how the Nokians are. But again, if BobbyG's never used Schwalbe's then it's hard to compare. [shrugs]
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
I've had the Schwalbe's for a few years now. They roll like studded tires, which is awful. But I have not basis for comparison, so just wondering how the Nokians are. But again, if BobbyG's never used Schwalbe's then it's hard to compare. [shrugs]
ah! gotcha! I tested some bar mitts the other day. got a few weird looks from folks on the trail. but at least my test is done. BTW some tire companies say you should "set the studs" by riding them a little on dry pavement ...

but, um, those don't look new

setting the studs ...

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I believe it's what they call the break-in period. I recall that as well when I got my tires. For the first 50 km or so you are not supposed to exceed a certain speed, but I can recall what that speed. I just remember thinking, I don't even go that fast on my slick tires.
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Originally Posted by gregjones
Perfect timing for you.

In Georgia we just wait for the afternoon sun. Everything, including work, shuts down with even a dusting.
Been a few years though since we've had a dusting. It would take us decades to get through the break-in period.
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I don't really need studded tires here in NC. although I do have the dream of riding home in the snow someday. I have ridden at home after it has snowed.
I would just put my cyclocross tires on and go REALLY SLOW.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
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In California? Really?
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I commute through the second poorest and a top 10 murder rate city. Riding home in the day is fine but at night through some of those neighborhoods is a no go.
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But not due to the weather, though, right?

Sorry to hear about that, BTW.
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