Well, the places where you've been explains it all. And yes you do have an agenda. Why don't all you liberals just tell the truth and quite lying. Just tell the truth that you have an agenda, at least then we can respect your opinion, but when you lie about it it just makes you look like more of a fool! Quite hiding around some false pretense; just as the gay community as come out of the closet with their agenda, time for you to come out of your smoked filled basement with your agenda.

are you crying conspiracy?

tell you what, i will readily confess all my sins that you expose if you will confess to using spellcheck.

What they hey, Liberal agenda? What on earth is the gay community's agenda, to be treated like equals?
And since when is smoking weed a liberal agenda. Does that make bigotry and hate a conservative reactionary agenda? Why don't you come out of your hatefest, read a book, and take an English class for crying out loud.

Hey! I'm a former pot smoking gay liberal...you want to know my agenda? TO RIDE MY BIKE! What's so wrong if someone wants to smoke pot in their own home? Hell, what's wrong with someone wanting to have their own opinion, for that matter?

Oh, wait! That's right! The conservative right wing agenda is to take away opinions. Forgive my forgetfulnes.

Quit your 84 Trek 660 Suntour Superbe agenda Froze!

Oh, wait! That's right! The conservative right wing agenda is to take away opinions. Forgive my forgetfulnes

I'm sorry, when did I say you did not have a right to an opinion? In fact I invited your opinions by asking you to be more honest about them and admit them. To which you respond that I gave you no rights to your opinions...hmm.

I dont hav tim to set a round an spel chk every werd; by the way you should chk yours a bit closer-you forgot to capitalize T in tell for the first word of a sentence, and I is suppose to always be capitalized AND the biggy of them all is SPELLCHECK IS SPELL CHECK thats two words and not one. So I confess to finding your errors without using a spell check.

As soon as you quit your econobot agenda...uhh?

Help me here, where in my posts did I say I hated gay or pot smokers or whatever? Everyone has some sort of agenda or another, be it conservative, liberal, moderate, weed smoker, gay rights, women rights (remember that from years ago?) black rights etc...I never said having an agenda was wrong, though I might disagree with that agenda just as you may disagree with mine, that doesn't mean I hate you, but your attack on me shows you must now have some hate towards me so in reality your the one with the hatefest.

Froze, I am not sure this is your intent, but you are using semantics to create a false dilemma of sorts. Agenda is a very loaded term, and you are implying that either a person has an agenda or they have no thoughts. Clearly we all have thoughts, thus agendas, you imply. But really (here is how it is a false dilemma) a person either has an agenda, thougthts, or apathy.

I'm soooo confused!!!!!!!!!!

Hey don't be so quick to words Froze.

My cousins LIVE in the Netherlands. That is why I was there.

I think you either need to ride some more miles on your bike, or smoke some stoney weed so you can chill out.

I have no hate fest against you!

I once tried putting stoney weed in brownies but it was too hard on the teeth, I (use to) prefer grassy weed.

I guess what i find amazing is that cyclist are suppose to be health conscious and yet I find that some just don't care what they put in their bodies. That should start another war!

biking helps me with depression + anger management...

The reason that it does this is because it and most other physical activities release endorphins, a chemcial that makes you feel "good" (for lack of a better word)

Froze, why don't you just go **** off. All you want to do is start arguments.

That is the stupidest post I have ever read on this forum, and I've been lurking for months. Just for fun, let me describe myself:
* vegan
* animal rights supporter
* voted republican on many occasions
* bike commuter
* own firearms
* don't do drugs (except beer)
* pacifist
* martial artist
* supported kucinich for president
* believe Schwarzenegger is the best gov of CA in a long time
....So what's my agenda? I suppose that my agenda at this moment is to defend the republican party from people like you, and to remind everybody else that you do not represent the majority of "your people" (or so I pray to all things holy, and I'm not even religious). Do you honestly think that you can slap the label "liberal" on somebody and have an accurate picture of who they are? If you do, then please stop wearing a helmet. You're not protecting anything worthwhile. (Note: I'm not upset, just horrified that I'd die fighting to defend your right to voice your childish opinions.)

Why? People can't ride bikes to save parking fees? Health-conscious people can't drive Hummers? Again, off with your helmet.

Admin, please note. Do we really need this? Meaningful discussion and debate is healthy, but this is useless. I'd like to suggest that in addition to the "SPAM!" button, that you add an "INFANTILE" button or some equivalent.

I apologize to all for replying to this fool. I'll stop now. My $0.02 are overextended.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Your a vegan and an animal rights supporter, how far do you go with that?

Your a pacifist yet your tone toward me was one of anger regardless what you labled it, your a martial artist, you own guns but don't shoot animals, voted Republican yet Republicans 100% voted to go to war yet you state your a pacifist?...hmmm

Kucinch who? or rather Dennis the Menace for President? you call me stupid? and here's a guy who snobs black people?

I heard enough of you already

you stupid vanilla lovers... chocolate is the best and you know it, but instead you pretend to like vanilla best.
everyone knows that vanilla is a non-flavor, so what gives?
now before anyone gets in a tizzy, i am sure there are plenty of "strawberry" supporters here
let's stop the partisan BS and accept the truth so that we can collectively sweep the globe and seize all the chocolate for ourselves and our children.... and our children's children.

what do you say?

OK -- seriously though -- I had undiagnosed AD/HD forever, and biking really helps me manage it. This has been a really f***** up part of my life, and it also happens to be the point of this thread . . . . y'all should stick to the topic.

I'm very into politics (rallies, protests, went to PA for the '04 election), but that's not the topic here. Start a NORML thread if you want.

If a blunt helps you deal with AD/HD, then blaze up -- and write your congresspeople.

The feeling is mutual! I always think it's funny when people get hostile in forums. It's the same mentality as insecure people getting road rage, thinking that as long as they have that shield, they can do or say anything they want. Tell you what Froze, I'll leave you with the last word because I get the feeling that's all you have going for you. Consider it my gift to you. Merry Christmas!

You sort of had a sensible point a while back, but now you're firmly in abusive troll/idiot/nonsequitur monger-territory.

What a damn shame. I was a little late coming in on this thread, and the first part was just awesome. Got all kinds of warm feelings as I related to the benefits of bike-riding -- even though I'm not ADD, the power of bike riding is not wasted on me. It's seriously close to a magical experience.

Then froze came along and left a big ol' Cleveland Steamer on the thread. Bummer.