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#27
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What? Its 50 degrees in Atlanta! Hardly cold IMO.
Suck it up soldier.
Suck it up soldier.
#28
Originally Posted by N_C
How cold does it get in Atlanta?
Of all the places on the trip, Atlanta was the coldest. Colder than Iceland.
#29
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#30
Originally Posted by RonH
Between SAD and cool/cold temps my motivation to bike commute is in the toilet.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.

I have SAD too. But it's never affected my ability to climb on my old commuter bike. I know that I have responsibilities no matter what B.S. my mind is dishing out.
The way it is now, you are defeated before you touch the doorknob. You are asking the wrong question. You check the air with the question of whether to commute. Your only question should be how should I dress to commute.
I would also recommend meditation. You need to detach yourself from identification with the emotional content of your thoughts. You are bulls**ting yourself. Check out Sakyong Mipham's Ruling Your World.
The only thing that is absolutely guaranteed to get you on the bike is sell your car! No better motivator than absolute necessity. Good luck.
#31
If you have depressive thoughts, you might be thinking that it's a burden to have to ride to work, or you might think that You're too tired or too weak to do it. Try to replace those thoughts with more realistic thoughts. Like riding will make you happier, or stronger. Bear in mind that usually just getting started is the hardest part.
So just ride to the end of the block, and tell yourself that you can turn back if it's still too much. I practically guarantee that you will be able to go the rest of the way, once you get to the end of the block. If not, ride home, but try it again the next day. Before too long, you will make it to work, and you'll feel much better for it. Fresh air, sunlight and exercise are the best therapy for SAD and other low grade affective disorders. Even for Major Affective Disorder. I hope this helps. I have an MA in Clinical Psychology and I've worked with depressed people for many years, so I think this is good advice.
So just ride to the end of the block, and tell yourself that you can turn back if it's still too much. I practically guarantee that you will be able to go the rest of the way, once you get to the end of the block. If not, ride home, but try it again the next day. Before too long, you will make it to work, and you'll feel much better for it. Fresh air, sunlight and exercise are the best therapy for SAD and other low grade affective disorders. Even for Major Affective Disorder. I hope this helps. I have an MA in Clinical Psychology and I've worked with depressed people for many years, so I think this is good advice.
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#33
Neat - w/ ice on the side
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Your in-cage commute must be on the mild side for this area.
Traffic in the cage on HWY 9 usually does it for me.
If not then I get on 400 ... or try to.
Traffic in the cage on HWY 9 usually does it for me.
If not then I get on 400 ... or try to.
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#34
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Originally Posted by dalmore
Your in-cage commute must be on the mild side for this area.
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The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
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Originally Posted by Map tester
Also, are there any problems with clothing and equipment? When you get to work, are your hands and feet warm (or at least not frozen)?
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The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
#36
Originally Posted by dalmore
Your in-cage commute must be on the mild side for this area.
Traffic in the cage on HWY 9 usually does it for me.
If not then I get on 400 ... or try to. 
Traffic in the cage on HWY 9 usually does it for me.
If not then I get on 400 ... or try to. 
I refuse to drive on 400 during a weekday. How in the world you can have an 8 lane highway (4 lanes each direction) come to a complete stop for no apparent reason just kills me. It's not like I'm Mario Andretti or anything, but dang! WTF?
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#37
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I've never had to follow-through with this tip, because from my experience, it works.
Go out planning to turn back after a mile (or a half-mile) if it's too cold/hot/muggy/rainy/snowy/icy/dark/tiring/whatever.
No matter how much I really didn't want to leave the house (let alone ride), after a quarter mile or so, I'm happy to be out and kicking myself for wasting so much energy on dithering.
Go out planning to turn back after a mile (or a half-mile) if it's too cold/hot/muggy/rainy/snowy/icy/dark/tiring/whatever.
No matter how much I really didn't want to leave the house (let alone ride), after a quarter mile or so, I'm happy to be out and kicking myself for wasting so much energy on dithering.
#38
I've been thinking about this some more. I've come to the conclusion that I commute for fun and to get out of my little car. If I did not enjoy commuting by bike, I would not do it, as its not the only way for me to get to work. So, I say if you aren't enjoying your ride due to the cold weather, take some time off. We do live in the metro Atlanta area. There will be plenty of days in the 50's and 60's even in January, February, and March.
I mean this aint the army, and aint no one forcing you to ride. So don't if you don't want to.
Oh, yeah...Happy New Years to everyone.
I mean this aint the army, and aint no one forcing you to ride. So don't if you don't want to.
Oh, yeah...Happy New Years to everyone.
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#39
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Speaking as one who battles S.A.D. every winter, I feel your pain. I have used light treatment in the past with a row of a dozen fluorescent light fixtures lined up against the wall. I get up about an hour earlyin the morning and sit in front of the very bright light bank and read/study/work at the computer. It has helped me. Here is a link to a factsheet for SAD.
#40
Come on, with right gear, how cold are you actually going to be on the bike? Not at all! You'll be shedding layers and wiping your brow! You'd be hot - an awesome feeling on a cold day (50 degrees isn't cold though... really...
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#42
Originally Posted by Tequila Joe
What? Its 50 degrees in Atlanta! Hardly cold IMO.
Suck it up soldier.
Suck it up soldier.
Last edited by ragboy; 12-29-06 at 12:57 AM.
#43
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i don't understand the purpose of answering someone simply to tell them you don't relate to their situation and/or wouldn't be affected by it if you did . . .
heh. boy, can i relate to this. it's along the same principle as chronic pain being more of a demoraliser than short moments of the more serious kind. the test lab where i spend most of my time these days includes an 'isolated' server room along one wall, that basically doesn't do its job of keeping the servers at the right temperatures. so the 'solution' is to keep the whole place cold enough that people have been known to go home because they're too cold to concentrate. it's getting to me too. when i've been just-this-side-of-the-shivers for eight or nine hours despite gloves and long johns and typing one-handed while sitting on the other one to warm it up, damned straight i don't really look forward to the ride home, even if it is 'only' near freezing. i realise none of it is all that cold in absolute terms, but you get bleeping-well tired of being cold all the time.
i'm getting by by counting the days. then spring will come, and my kid's baseball season, and i'll be freezing my arse off all over again for a different reason.
Originally Posted by RonH
My hands are always cold at work. You know how old this building. They don't like to turn the heat up here and I have two outside walls and two windows with cracked and missing caulk.
i'm getting by by counting the days. then spring will come, and my kid's baseball season, and i'll be freezing my arse off all over again for a different reason.
#44
Originally Posted by RonH
Between SAD and cool/cold temps my motivation to bike commute is in the toilet.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.

Also check the temp on-line with Weather.com or listen to the weather report, a blast of cold air when you are not dressed for it is very discouraging.
#45
Originally Posted by RonH
Between SAD and cool/cold temps my motivation to bike commute is in the toilet.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.
I get up every morning and get everything ready to go. I open the door to check the air temperature (to determine how many layers I'll need, etc.) and I quickly close the door and tell myself I'll ride tomorrow when it's warmer.
Please help me get out of this rut.


Hey, tough love. I'm just gonna let you miss out on the best riding time of the year until you hit bottom!
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#46
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Originally Posted by LittleBigMan

Hey, tough love. I'm just gonna let you miss out on the best riding time of the year until you hit bottom!
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The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
#47
Hey, man. I had to ask what SAD was. Seasonal Affective Disorder?
Hey, Ron! Maybe what you need is a good bike ride to wipe those cobwebs out! Recently, I woke up feeling like, "no way I'm gonna make it today. I'm gonna ride the train." But I got wild and rode the bike anyway. Had the best day after that. Just blew all the junk out of my spirit/mind/body (or something like that.
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Hey, Ron! Maybe what you need is a good bike ride to wipe those cobwebs out! Recently, I woke up feeling like, "no way I'm gonna make it today. I'm gonna ride the train." But I got wild and rode the bike anyway. Had the best day after that. Just blew all the junk out of my spirit/mind/body (or something like that.
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#48
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Every morning I used to wake up and think - I should drive today. It's too late, too cold, too wet, I'm too tired, endless excuses. For me the answer was to make this simple rule:
--- Ride every day, no matter what ---
That way I don't have to think about whether to ride or not. I've already decided. It became a challenge, a point of pride - nothing is going to keep me from riding today! Anyway, invariably, I am thrilled to be riding 5 minutes after I'm on the bike.
Cheap mental trick, I know, but it works for me.
--- Ride every day, no matter what ---
That way I don't have to think about whether to ride or not. I've already decided. It became a challenge, a point of pride - nothing is going to keep me from riding today! Anyway, invariably, I am thrilled to be riding 5 minutes after I'm on the bike.
Cheap mental trick, I know, but it works for me.
#49
Originally Posted by tsl
I've never had to follow-through with this tip, because from my experience, it works.
Go out planning to turn back after a mile (or a half-mile) if it's too cold/hot/muggy/rainy/snowy/icy/dark/tiring/whatever.
No matter how much I really didn't want to leave the house (let alone ride), after a quarter mile or so, I'm happy to be out and kicking myself for wasting so much energy on dithering.
Go out planning to turn back after a mile (or a half-mile) if it's too cold/hot/muggy/rainy/snowy/icy/dark/tiring/whatever.
No matter how much I really didn't want to leave the house (let alone ride), after a quarter mile or so, I'm happy to be out and kicking myself for wasting so much energy on dithering.
#50
Originally Posted by RonH
My hands are always cold at work. You know how old this building. They don't like to turn the heat up here and I have two outside walls and two windows with cracked and missing caulk.




