In praise of platform pedals...
#26
If you own a pair of SIDIs, your feet will be happy - on, and off the bike. Okay, they are not slippers, or sandals, but man SIDIs are by far the best fitting, and comfy shoes on the market.
That's my opinion, so it must be right.
I can't ride platforms.
... Brad
That's my opinion, so it must be right.
I can't ride platforms.... Brad
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Although I ride them un-modified on my other bikes,
riding fixt with straight platforms is not a great idea....
Here is a modded set of BMX'ers that are on my Fix :
riding fixt with straight platforms is not a great idea....
Here is a modded set of BMX'ers that are on my Fix :
#29
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Originally Posted by MillCreek
Back in 1997, I was not able to unclip in time due to sticky cleats. I crashed my MTB down on my left side, fracturing my left femoral neck. I still have three stainless steel screws in my hip. Since that time, I have gone to platforms on all five bicycles. The novelty of one major orthopedic injury was quite enough.
Originally Posted by fender1
So for he folks that ride platforms w/ Powergrips, how do you feel the system performs in stop & go traffic? Is it a PIA to rotate the pedal around to get started?
I've never had a problem, except when I wear sandals and the straps get caught in the grips, but that happens with toeclips too.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus
You do realise that you're defending yourself in a pro-platform pedal thread right?
#31
Originally Posted by fender1
So for he folks that ride platforms w/ Powergrips, how do you feel the system performs in stop & go traffic? Is it a PIA to rotate the pedal around to get started?
#32
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Originally Posted by fender1
So for he folks that ride platforms w/ Powergrips, how do you feel the system performs in stop & go traffic? Is it a PIA to rotate the pedal around to get started?
So its definitely a little more annoying thats straight up platforms, since there is a right side up... But, its MUCH easier than toe clips.
I found when the powergrips are new, its kind of annoying and I often just rode with one foot in, and the other foot on the platform side, until I cleared an intersection and had a moment to flip the pedal.
BUT,
as the powergrips wear, they tended to fit the form of my foot better and better, and often times i start pedalling, and found my foot naturally found its way into the powergrips accidently and naturally. After a few days of breaking in my feet almost always find their way naturally into the power grips as I get started, and only sometimes do I have to think about flipping the pedal up first.
#33
Slap me down if I am wrong here, but as regard starting with these power grips... and do bear in mind I have not used them.
But pwergrips are something you can fit to flat pedals... yes?
So.. that being the case, when stopped and your foot is off the pedal, the weight of the powergrip will turn the pedal so that the side without the powergrip is upper most.. in short... a normal flat pedal?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
But pwergrips are something you can fit to flat pedals... yes?
So.. that being the case, when stopped and your foot is off the pedal, the weight of the powergrip will turn the pedal so that the side without the powergrip is upper most.. in short... a normal flat pedal?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
#34
Originally Posted by fender1
So for he folks that ride platforms w/ Powergrips, how do you feel the system performs in stop & go traffic? Is it a PIA to rotate the pedal around to get started?
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All I ever use is flat pedals, even when touring on my Trek 520, no clips or straps at all.
They are great, and I've never slipped off them. (exept when acting the goat, ie: look, no hands or seat!..etc etc)
They are great, and I've never slipped off them. (exept when acting the goat, ie: look, no hands or seat!..etc etc)
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I disagree. Cycling to work gives me a good workout and I prefer to do it on the same bike I do my weekend rides on, which is a road bike. I can shower at work and store my bike next to my desk so for me platform pedals are a step into the past and compromises, somewhat, the purpose of commuting by bike for me.
Clipless is the only way to go.
Clipless is the only way to go.
#38
Originally Posted by Nicodemus
Cheers, I was wondering whether I'd need the long ones. With UK size 10 boots, I think the answer's clear 

Originally Posted by Cadfael
So.. that being the case, when stopped and your foot is off the pedal, the weight of the powergrip will turn the pedal so that the side without the powergrip is upper most.. in short... a normal flat pedal?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
Have you worn out a pair of PowerGrips? I've got some on my fixie right now, they've got about 2000 hard brakeless miles on them, and show little sign of wear (except on the tip of the arc, where they occasionally drag the ground). I thought they looked a little more fragile (coming from steel toeclips...), but I've been surprised pleasantly thus far.
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#40
Originally Posted by MikeR
I have steel toeclips and I'm interested in PowerGrips. How do the PowerGrips compare to toeclips?
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Originally Posted by donnamb
Now, this comes secondhand from my housemate, as I've never use toeclips. She used them before her PowerGrips, and said there is no comparison. The PowerGrips were easier for her to get in and out of and she felt the were more efficient. They also don't mar shoes like toeclips can.
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Last edited by MikeR; 04-19-07 at 07:00 PM.
#42
Originally Posted by Cadfael
Slap me down if I am wrong here, but as regard starting with these power grips... and do bear in mind I have not used them.
But pwergrips are something you can fit to flat pedals... yes?
So.. that being the case, when stopped and your foot is off the pedal, the weight of the powergrip will turn the pedal so that the side without the powergrip is upper most.. in short... a normal flat pedal?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
But pwergrips are something you can fit to flat pedals... yes?
So.. that being the case, when stopped and your foot is off the pedal, the weight of the powergrip will turn the pedal so that the side without the powergrip is upper most.. in short... a normal flat pedal?
So you set off from the lights... and only when you are moving use your toe end to flip the pedal and slip into the grip? So it should be no harder to start to pedal than a flat... and when safe you slip into the grip?
#43
Originally Posted by MikeR
I have big feet. My toe clops never really fit that well - even with modifications.
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Originally Posted by fat_bike_nut
Just leave me be with my platforms without bombing me about how much power/efficiency/etc. that I'm supposedly missing out on with no clip-in systems. All those "I need my clipless on any ride over 10 miles" folks just sound downright silly to me. For one thing, I've done 40+ mile rides on plain jane platforms (no clips to speak of), and my feet were just fine! Honest! 

I've done 80+ mile rides on platform pedals. My feet were fine also. But I also have the added perspective of having done rides with clipless pedals also. For a long or fast ride, I would choose clipless pedals every time.
If you're happy with platforms, good for you. Some aren't. You don't need to justify yourself to them.
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#45
My father in law is a hardcore clip user... he tells me he can 'toe and heal' with them? I am assuming this mean that in addition to pushing down on one pedal... he also uses the other foot to lift the other pedal, which I suppose means he is getting twice as much drive for his energy?
This is why I find the Powergrips interesting, I am not keen on having to actually ,ess abput and snap my foot on to a pedal, but I would give the Powergrips a try.
This is why I find the Powergrips interesting, I am not keen on having to actually ,ess abput and snap my foot on to a pedal, but I would give the Powergrips a try.
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Anyone ever used toe clips with flipflops? I was riding after a rain the otherday and my flipflop slid off the petal and almost wrecked me. Sorry, I am in florida, I am not giving up the flops!! Not even for biking. Plus if I even owned a pair of non-work shoes, I wouldnt want to get them wet in the rain
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Originally Posted by donnamb
Hey, KnoxBreezer!
I got MKS sylvan touring pedals with Powergrips. I'm very happy with the set up.
I got MKS sylvan touring pedals with Powergrips. I'm very happy with the set up.
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Originally Posted by donnamb
PowerGrips come in an XL size. Good for winter boots, too. 

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Originally Posted by squeakywheel
You are essentially correct. The only thing I can say against this method is that the powergrips can drag the ground when you are pedalling with the pedals upside down. For this reason, I usually would start with my right foot securely in the powergrip and try to hook the left side one on the first rotation. I'll admit to a quick little look down while doing this. Some people might not like that distraction in traffic.
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