Get Your Ass On The Sidewalk!!!
04-24-07, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fthrud
I generally avoid "me too," but...um...me too. I get up to ride at 4:30 on weekdays, get in an hour while it's still cool and little traffic. I especially like riding down the middle of Main St. Then, I turn down US41, which is 3 lanes in each direction. I take the center of the right lane. I've got 2 headlights, 2 blinkie tail lights, reflectors and a scratched Pink Floyd CD in the pocket of my gear bag that really catches the headlights behind me. When traffic approaches from the rear, I make myself big and visable, weave (in my lane) and 99 out 100 cars move all the way to the left lane, leaving the center clear and me smiling. Except for that $*#% CocaCola delivery truck, who every @#$% morning hugs the right lane and honks his horn at me. I realize he has to turn right at every C-Store on the road, but is his schedule and life so lousy that he's got to mess with my sole serene time of the day? It's been suggested I hold the center of my lane and MAKE him so around, but I don't want to be roadkill to prove a point. I've seen him loading up his colored toxic sugar water at 7-11, but figure if I confront him than tomorrows ride would be even more dangerous. There, I've vented, all better.
04-24-07, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by boog
Thanks to both of you!
I think that Oregon Scientific one is the ticket for me, to lazy to build a mount for anything. Google here I come!
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I think that Oregon Scientific one is the ticket for me, to lazy to build a mount for anything. Google here I come!
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I'm thinking of getting this one myself too.
04-24-07, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Curiouswill
Thanks for the link!
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Originally Posted by ragboy
Do I understand this correctly -- if there is a MUP that parallels the busy road why not use that instead? Maybe that is why the motorist was upset.
Originally Posted by Topher Aus
Weren't you legally in the wrong then, if the city ordinace tells you to be on the MUP?
Besides annoying motorists to prove a point, was there actually a point to riding on the road?
Besides annoying motorists to prove a point, was there actually a point to riding on the road?
As far as I'm concerned I'm happy with my views on what's acceptable and I don't go out of my way to try and prove it to JAMs, and I certainly don't do anything to antagonise them. But I'm not going to accomodate their ignorance or their bad attitudes. I just do what I think is right, period.
Society deems us unworthy, why play by their rules? A lot of MUPs are awful to ride on, and they betray a lack of willingness to truly respect bicycles as a form of transport. Sod the bastards.
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04-25-07, 02:03 PM
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Be glad you didn't get something thrown at you. Folks seem to be moving from yelling "get on the sidewalk" to assault by projectile. 
04-25-07, 02:27 PM
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I think you may have misunderstood her. She probably didn't say "get your a$$ on the sidewalk." She probably said "please stuff my a$$ with your (ock".
04-25-07, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sestivers
I think you may have misunderstood her. She probably didn't say "get your a$$ on the sidewalk." She probably said "please stuff my a$$ with your (ock".
She was good looking so that would not have been a bad thing if I wasn't married I may have taken her up on that offer.
04-25-07, 02:43 PM
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Ok for the record regarding the MUP in question that parallels Singing Hills Blvd. It is a very nice MUP, I'm guessing 8' wide, nice smooth transition across intersections, no major cracks, dips, holes, or other damage, etc. It is also hardly used, at least on week days. I don't know about week ends because I hardly ever come down to this part of Sioux City on Sat. or Sun.
So I can not nor have I used the excuse of it is heavy with other trail traffic or is such poor shape as an excuse to not ride on it.
So I can not nor have I used the excuse of it is heavy with other trail traffic or is such poor shape as an excuse to not ride on it.
04-25-07, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
Ah yes.. those stupid leaches. I have to agree. But for me: I'd rather deal with some moron on a MUP with a long leash than with a road rager in a 4000lbs car on the street.
Killing myself is less likely to happen on the MUP.
Killing myself is less likely to happen on the MUP.
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Originally Posted by SDRider
Cagers do some really stupid crap. Trying to figure out why they sometimes act like complete blithering idiots is a waste of time. Just go on and try to forget about it. You handled the situation correctly.
04-25-07, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chipcom
So how/where did you dislocate your shoulder...MUP, road, or non-bike related?
04-26-07, 10:46 AM
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When OP says he was in the right half of the right lane, does that mean 3-4 feet from the sidewalk?
I ride 2 feet from the edge to avoid grates and give some swerve room, but I can appreciate how cagers would consider it discourteous if I took 4 feet. 2 feet still gives 2 feet clearance to pass for most cars going to the edge of the lane.
I ride 2 feet from the edge to avoid grates and give some swerve room, but I can appreciate how cagers would consider it discourteous if I took 4 feet. 2 feet still gives 2 feet clearance to pass for most cars going to the edge of the lane.
04-26-07, 11:04 AM
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Hey NC, I have to give you credit for getting noticed. That's first rule in bike saftey isn't it?
04-26-07, 02:35 PM
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Posting because I got my first "get off of the [expletive] road" earlier today when riding on a light-moderate traffic 35 mph road with one lane each way. There's no real shoulder in places, so I was in the middle of the lane, but not such that the guy couldn't pull past with ease as he yelled at me. I was more shocked and amused than offended, though I sort of wish I could've shared a few friendly words with him about how I need to be visible and not get run off the road and all that.
I try to only take 2 feet, but if the road/shoulder is bad, or if there are parked cars, I'll take the middle of the lane.
Originally Posted by godspiral
When OP says he was in the right half of the right lane, does that mean 3-4 feet from the sidewalk?
I ride 2 feet from the edge to avoid grates and give some swerve room, but I can appreciate how cagers would consider it discourteous if I took 4 feet. 2 feet still gives 2 feet clearance to pass for most cars going to the edge of the lane.
I ride 2 feet from the edge to avoid grates and give some swerve room, but I can appreciate how cagers would consider it discourteous if I took 4 feet. 2 feet still gives 2 feet clearance to pass for most cars going to the edge of the lane.
04-26-07, 04:10 PM
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ahh, isn't great to come onto a forum where people that share a common interest can help each other develop a false sense of superiority by having little derogatory insider terms like cager and jam to throw around describing the outsiders that we treat as the enemy.
04-26-07, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wrongdave
ahh, isn't great to come onto a forum where people that share a common interest can help each other develop a false sense of superiority by having little derogatory insider terms like cager and jam to throw around describing the outsiders that we treat as the enemy.
04-26-07, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by N_C
Junior you haven't been here long enough to make a comment like that. Come back & say such things when you've grown to a full fledged forum member & have quite a few more threads & responses under your belt.
Get about 10,000 more posts and we'll talk.
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N_C...
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Hey, I got my first "get on the sidewalk" just last week. I live in Lanai City, Hawaii, a town of about 2000 people where the main road through the 'city' has a speed limit of 25 mph. No sidewalks to speak of, usually very little traffic and most people give a friendly wave and a wide berth to cyclists. About 10 at night riding the 3/4 mile home from a friends house, red blinky on the back and a small headlight on front, no traffic in sight, I heard a truck come up behind me and sit on my tail for about 300 yards, as I turned right into my street I heard the shout from the truck. Had a quick look but did not recognise the truck, my first thought being it was someone who knew me, only thing I did was to shout "get stuffed", not very original I know.
Only things I've had shouted at me before was "Allez,Allez" in France and "you've got a nice ass" in South Africa.
Only things I've had shouted at me before was "Allez,Allez" in France and "you've got a nice ass" in South Africa.
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Originally Posted by N_C
Junior you haven't been here long enough to make a comment like that. Come back & say such things when you've grown to a full fledged forum member & have quite a few more threads & responses under your belt.
04-26-07, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rothar
Hey, I got my first "get on the sidewalk" just last week. I live in Lanai City, Hawaii
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
Did you consider for a second that the "sidewalk" the cager was referring to was actually the path?
Personally, i don't understand why cyclists who ***** about not having bicycle friendly roads don't use the paths when they are provided for the safety of the cyclist.
That being said: I did get the "ride on the sidewalk" myself once. But there was no path; just the road and the sidewalk. I later caught up to the dumbass cager and quoted the HTA (Highway traffic act in Ontario) to him and told him to expect a visit from the cops because of his dangerous driving. He the responded "your word against mine". The I pointed to the little black box in the middle of my handlebar... "Hey dip*****... smile for the camcorder." He got pissed and got out of the car, I simply turned the corner and lost him in the sidestreets and parks (GPS are useful for that!).
Got home, called the cops, filed a complaint, they came over, I handed them a copy ofthe MP4 file (Electronic video). They charged the driver based on the evidence on the video. About 8 months later I was subpoenaed to appear in court as a witness but I got a call the day before that the driver pleaded guilty to a lesser charge so I wasn't needed.
Moral of the story? DON'T GET MAD... GET EVEN!
Personally, i don't understand why cyclists who ***** about not having bicycle friendly roads don't use the paths when they are provided for the safety of the cyclist.
That being said: I did get the "ride on the sidewalk" myself once. But there was no path; just the road and the sidewalk. I later caught up to the dumbass cager and quoted the HTA (Highway traffic act in Ontario) to him and told him to expect a visit from the cops because of his dangerous driving. He the responded "your word against mine". The I pointed to the little black box in the middle of my handlebar... "Hey dip*****... smile for the camcorder." He got pissed and got out of the car, I simply turned the corner and lost him in the sidestreets and parks (GPS are useful for that!).
Got home, called the cops, filed a complaint, they came over, I handed them a copy ofthe MP4 file (Electronic video). They charged the driver based on the evidence on the video. About 8 months later I was subpoenaed to appear in court as a witness but I got a call the day before that the driver pleaded guilty to a lesser charge so I wasn't needed.
Moral of the story? DON'T GET MAD... GET EVEN!
04-27-07, 09:49 AM
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Never mind. I need to read more posts.
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It happened again tonight. Further up on the same roadway, Singing Hills Blvd, when I was climbing the first hill, about 3.25 miles into my commute, past the section where the MUP crosses under the roadway to the other side. After the passenger yelled for me to get my ass on the sidewalk, I yelled thank you for the advice, he then gave me the single finger salute, to which I smiled & waved like I was saying goodbye from the deck of a ship as it is headed out to see leaving the dock.
I have low quality video footage of it this time. Would anyone like to see it?
Incidentally this is the second time, on the same roadway. Ironically it happened after my boss told me to have a good safe ride home. The last time it happened, which was the last time I commuted home, he said the same thing & I got yelled at by that chick, which prompted this thread. Coincidence or not? Should I kindly ask my boss not to wish me a safe ride home, to see if I get yelled anymore by cagers & JAM's? I know he means well & I don't blame him, he's a heck of a nice guy.
I have low quality video footage of it this time. Would anyone like to see it?
Incidentally this is the second time, on the same roadway. Ironically it happened after my boss told me to have a good safe ride home. The last time it happened, which was the last time I commuted home, he said the same thing & I got yelled at by that chick, which prompted this thread. Coincidence or not? Should I kindly ask my boss not to wish me a safe ride home, to see if I get yelled anymore by cagers & JAM's? I know he means well & I don't blame him, he's a heck of a nice guy.