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Originally Posted by bradchandler
This happened yesterday, 07/10? The metal on the lock rusted fast didn't it?
EDIT - my timing was off, CCTV shows the theft occurred at 10am not later in the day, see later post for timeline.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Gurl With an Attitude, normally I wouldn't suggest self-recovery like this, but you need several large and scary-looking friends with attitudes to surround the little scumbag and convince him to surrender your bike peaceably, before the cops show up. Just don't do anything that would result in criminal charges against you and your friends.
Yeah, friends are all over me about that ... I just want to locate and call 911 from my NEW cell phone (why? cause new/old one was also on bike). Personally I wish it disappeared - sold in a worse part of the city - but no. It's right here. And just to slap me in the face more --- I can see the house they've been seen around from the local bar I go into - again - a block from my house.
And I was on my way downtown 2 days ago (on new bike) and was going to stop at friend's store - when I saw this kid flailing his arms around - and got off his bike and walked into the store with it. Then promptly walked out announcing to everyone loudly that he has to sell this bike.
And the dumbas walked up to me and asked if I wanted it ---- brand new canary yellow Cannondale hardtail mtb ---- before I could say something he said "$200" and you know how much they go for? I said yes, as I snapped a picture of him and the bike and calmly walked into the store with my bike. Kid scurried off - he needed to sell the bike for his next fix judging by his profuse sweating and wild eyes.
I'm the very last person who needs to see that junk now.
So then I stopped at my workplace and e-mailed the photo of the kid to a couple of my cop friends who made sure it got to the right people in case someone turns in a police report for that bike.
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Originally Posted by faceD
shows you how worthless kryptonite locks are
Originally Posted by faceD
i've seen a video on youtube where guys cut though bike locks in less than a minute each 

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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
The fact that someone had to resort to a professional cutting tool is a credit to the strength of the lock.
And how often does that happen? Once in a blue moon, because it's so much easier (and safer) to cut a cheap cable lock, which is why there are tons of stolen bike reports involving a cut cable lock, and very, very few stolen bike reports involving power tools cutting a high end u-lock.
It doesn't mean it can't happen, but it's rare.
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Looking at the photos, I don't see HOW the crook got your bike. The "cut" area on the shackle is less than a half inch wide. That is far too small a space to pull the frame of the bike through the cut, or to pull the rear wheel through the cut (if you had the lock around the rear wheel).
If the "cut" lock was sitting on a workbench, I'd guess you could rotate the shackle, and open up the "gap" between the two sections. But, if the interior of the shackle was filled by the rear wheel and a beefy locking post, it would not be possible to rotate the shackle enough to pull the bike through a single "cut".
When "Cycling Plus" used power tools to open the Kryptonite New York lock, the editors pointed out that the New York Lock has dual locking bolts. The shackle is not going to open unless BOTH legs are cut. With power tools, and new cutting discs, cutting both legs is a very time consuming task.
There are some odd things about the photo shown in this thread. If a single cut was made, using a power cutting disk, I'd expect the cut to be very thin, around 1/16th of an inch wide. Bright, shiny metal.
Instead, there is a cut of about 1/2 inch wide, badly corroded. The size of the cut is consistent with the shackle being cut twice, with each cut being located about 1/2 inch from the other. The corrosion is more consistent with the cut being made several weeks or months before the photo was taken.
Without a doubt, any lock can be opened with power tools. But, according to "Cycling Plus", on THIS lock, cutting both sides of the shackle with power tools is a long and noisy job. Not something most crooks are gonna want to spend their time doing. But, if a crook has power tools, lots of time, and lots of nerve, no lock in the world is gonna stop him.
It has been a while since I looked at the warranty on a bike lock. But, my recollection is, the Kryptonite insurance policy does NOT cover a lock cut by power tools. However, homeowner's insurance or renter's insurance may cover the loss, minus your deductible.
If the "cut" lock was sitting on a workbench, I'd guess you could rotate the shackle, and open up the "gap" between the two sections. But, if the interior of the shackle was filled by the rear wheel and a beefy locking post, it would not be possible to rotate the shackle enough to pull the bike through a single "cut".
When "Cycling Plus" used power tools to open the Kryptonite New York lock, the editors pointed out that the New York Lock has dual locking bolts. The shackle is not going to open unless BOTH legs are cut. With power tools, and new cutting discs, cutting both legs is a very time consuming task.
There are some odd things about the photo shown in this thread. If a single cut was made, using a power cutting disk, I'd expect the cut to be very thin, around 1/16th of an inch wide. Bright, shiny metal.
Instead, there is a cut of about 1/2 inch wide, badly corroded. The size of the cut is consistent with the shackle being cut twice, with each cut being located about 1/2 inch from the other. The corrosion is more consistent with the cut being made several weeks or months before the photo was taken.
Without a doubt, any lock can be opened with power tools. But, according to "Cycling Plus", on THIS lock, cutting both sides of the shackle with power tools is a long and noisy job. Not something most crooks are gonna want to spend their time doing. But, if a crook has power tools, lots of time, and lots of nerve, no lock in the world is gonna stop him.
It has been a while since I looked at the warranty on a bike lock. But, my recollection is, the Kryptonite insurance policy does NOT cover a lock cut by power tools. However, homeowner's insurance or renter's insurance may cover the loss, minus your deductible.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
The corrosion is consistent with the cut being made several weeks or months before the photo was taken. Odd.
To the OP, sorry to hear about your loss. Actually, I'm really sorry because I have a 19" Cronus on order scheduled to arrive in the next couple of days! I'll check the serial just to be safe!
In fact, I just received my onguard bulldog mini lock a few minutes ago and then stumbled upon this thread. I think my best defense is that the bike will be locked up in a high traffic area and many employees will be around it constantly (outside of a costco). I am shocked to see how your stronger kryptonite lock was defeated and to hear that it was in broad daylight under the watch of a camera --
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
If the "cut" lock was sitting on a workbench, I'd guess you could rotate the shackle, and open up the "gap" between the two sections. But, if the interior of the shackle was filled by the rear wheel and a beefy locking post, it would not be possible to rotate the shackle enough to pull the bike through a single "cut".
Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
When "Cycling Plus" used power tools to open the Kryptonite New York lock, the editors pointed out that the New York Lock has dual locking bolts. The shackle is not going to open unless BOTH legs are cut. With power tools, and new cutting discs, cutting both legs is a very time consuming task.
Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
There are some odd things about the photo shown in this thread. If a single cut was made, using a power cutting disk, I'd expect the cut to be very thin, around 1/16th of an inch wide. Bright, shiny metal.
Instead, there is a cut of about 1/2 inch wide, badly corroded. The size of the cut is consistent with the shackle being cut twice, with each cut being located about 1/2 inch from the other. The corrosion is consistent with the cut being made several weeks or months before the photo was taken. Odd.
Instead, there is a cut of about 1/2 inch wide, badly corroded. The size of the cut is consistent with the shackle being cut twice, with each cut being located about 1/2 inch from the other. The corrosion is consistent with the cut being made several weeks or months before the photo was taken. Odd.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
If the "cut" lock was sitting on a workbench, I'd guess you could rotate the shackle, and open up the "gap" between the two sections. But, if the interior of the shackle was filled by the rear wheel and a beefy locking post, it would not be possible to rotate the shackle enough to pull the bike through a single "cut".
Just as if you put the shackle in a vise and rotated the locking cylinder by hand or with a lever.
The rust is typicall of just one day or even less. That kind of steel rusts easily.
#37
Originally Posted by Blue Order
No, if you know how to think critically, it doesn't prove that at all.
#38
There is nothing "professional" about a battery powered sawzall. It is a common tool, that could easily be stolen from a work truck or a worksite. That's assuming the person didn't just buy it.
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Originally Posted by maddyfish
There is nothing "professional" about a battery powered sawzall. It is a common tool, that could easily be stolen from a work truck or a worksite. That's assuming the person didn't just buy it.
#41
Originally Posted by Tude
And the dumbas walked up to me and asked if I wanted it ---- brand new canary yellow Cannondale hardtail mtb ---- before I could say something he said "$200" and you know how much they go for?
this scumbag is so lucky it was you and not me, I'd love to catch a bike thief and make him eat broken glass.
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Wow. I've been locking my bike outside our office building where all the smokers go all day long, but maybe I'll look into the option of parking it in the ramp right next to the attendant for $50 a year. It seems worth it all of a sudden..
So sorry to hear about your bike
So sorry to hear about your bike
#43
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
This makes me angry as hell
this scumbag is so lucky it was you and not me, I'd love to catch a bike thief and make him eat broken glass.
this scumbag is so lucky it was you and not me, I'd love to catch a bike thief and make him eat broken glass.
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Jon, sorry to hear it.
I definately feel your pain, as some low life piece of $hit also stole my Specialized RockHopper two nights ago. Right out of my backyard. They had to climb over a 6 foot block wall to get into the yard.
Joe
I definately feel your pain, as some low life piece of $hit also stole my Specialized RockHopper two nights ago. Right out of my backyard. They had to climb over a 6 foot block wall to get into the yard.
Joe
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Originally Posted by donnamb
Then this story will warm your heart, and possibly Tude's.
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#46
Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
That's great that someone got their stolen bike back, too bad they didn't re-educate the thief.
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https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/371235128.html
Thats a dead give away for the thief NOT to post there. Anyway, look on ebay and good luck finding it. If he shows up on ebay bring cops to his door.
Thats a dead give away for the thief NOT to post there. Anyway, look on ebay and good luck finding it. If he shows up on ebay bring cops to his door.
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With reference to the "cut Kryptonite", the world has a problem. In the last year or two, cheap rechargeable angle grinders have appeared on eBay, imported from China. I lost the key to my u-lock last year, and had to take measures to get my tourer back. Turned out one of these grinders was about the same price as getting the locksmith out, and it would of course have a use for me in future, whereas the locksmith would go home to his family. Let me tell you it cut through my lock in about 30 seconds, and nobody said a word to me about it. Nothing will stop a thief who's prepared to shell out £50 to be equipped to do his job well.
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Originally Posted by donnamb
The guy was most likely high on meth. I wouldn't go there with that kind of potential aggression. On the other hand, I wouldn't have put it past this particular group of Zoobombers if said methhead insisted on keeping the bike.
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