Ummm, does nobody carry that big hunk of metal called a bike lock with them? Take the U-lock, hold it by the curved part and you can pretty much do whatever kind of damage you want to someone. If you have a heavy chain lock, those things can also do some real damage, just don't hurt yourself!

Gun pics?! Did I just see gun pics?

Well then, here ya go!

My precious!
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:D

Don't have pics, but my arsenal includes:

.300 Weatherby mag, Browning with composite stock, fluted stainless barrel, Leopold Scope
.243 Winchester, lever action Browning with Leopold
Browning 12 ga. GTI over and under
.44 Desert Eagle
.22 survival rifle
.270 Weatherby Colt Sauer
.340 Weatherby Mark V

More of a hunter than a militant, but I wouldn't be opposed to blasting a cager ;)

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I ride with one of these in a trailer. It's hooked up to my heart, so if it stops beating it blows up. It also has voice command, so if I sneeze, it blows up. I'm such a badazz.....



:rolleyes:

OK that is funny, not trunk monkey funny, but still funny.

Thats funny! or are we just crazies! ;) :roflmao:

Take this! :roflmao: Its my daily carry weapon :D
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Hey, I own a couple guns but you'll notice my first response to this thread was to carry a cell phone.

I have never and probably never will carry a gun with me when I ride. I'm not so paranoid that I feel the need to arm myself when cycling and since you never know when you'll need it and 99.9% of the time you don't need it I just opt to not carry one...not to mention the fact that it's illegal to carry a weapon, concealed or otherwise, in CA and they rarely issue concealed carry permits.

Yeah, in Philly we can carry with a permit and Id rather not take even a 1% chance of my family or myself being harmed by some drug addicted zombie or some a55hole that thinks we owe him something because we work hard and he doesnt :mad: My choice has nothing to do with being paranoid and everything to due with trying my best to keep my family safe :) Better to have it and not need it.......

Hell, who needs the bike. Just do like Slim and commute via your weapon

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Agreed...first prize. The other day my wife was driving through our old neighborhood (the one that prompted me to get my permit) and a guy who we had some unpleasant encounters with in the past stumbled out of his apt. and right into fast flowing traffic, directly inf ront of my wife. She slammed on her brakes, almost hitting the guy, who didn't even flinch. He did, however, pause, look directly at her and shot her with a 'finger gun.' I took this to mean "Watch out or I'll cap you."

Another time an unleashed pack of pitbulls attacked my dog (6 one 1) and knocked my wife over while she was holding our six month old. She rose and kicked each one very hard, multiple times and dissipated the situation as the owners weren't doing a thing. Had it escalated it would have been nice to know the dogs could easily have been dealt with.

Not saying we should all carry guns and be lawless, but, then again population control has to happen through some means ;)

One idea might be one of those little pen-size voice recorders that records about 20 seconds of speech. Put it on a cord around the neck, easily accessible, and then repeat and absorb the concept, "Don't get mad, get a license number."

and in the case of an attacking pack of pitbulls? I'd rather put 'em down, to be honest.

+1 pepper spray then a stun gun. Best to deal with them before they reach you. Some stun guns now have 130db alarms which could help draw attention and scare off thugs.

You'all see this? - this is ma Frenchie 18 shot two barrelled pin-fire reevolver. Any cager who sees this in ma hand is gunna run a mile coz they're soooo scared when they see all them holes point'n at them they thinks it's gunna blow up and take us all out should I pull the trigger .....

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Seriously though in martial arts, - well the sword arts anyway, - I was taught that the ultimate aim was to attain the state of 'no sword' where nobody wants to attempt to attack you anyway. I don't like guns since I consider them to be the weapon of a coward. (Look I trained in the sword arts - what do you expect me to say - huh?). Because I have a disability I nearly always carry a walking stick and if I really really really had to I'd use my walking stick to defend myself against an aggressor. But to tell the truth I'd rather not go looking for trouble and even if somebody is the king zit on the backside of the world I don't think I have the right to kill them unless they seriously push me to it and leave me absolutely no other choice.

You guys need to get laid more.

You could be right there ;)

I am all for it.

How many years have you been carrying and how many times have you had to use your gun to protect yourself or your family?

If your answer to my second question contains any number greater than zero I'd seriously consider moving.

The best weapons for commuters are things like:

-- your smile
-- patience
-- a positive outlook on life
-- a kind and gentle spirit

That sort of thing. :)

If you're carrying around any sorts of weapons meant to do harm, you shouldn't be on the road ... on a bicycle, or in a vehicle ... and I sincerely hope you never, ever cycle anywhere in my vicinity.

First of all some of us don't have a choice to move. Cost of moving plus the lack of a job elsewhere impedes action.

Secondly, even if you never have to pull a gun, having it can be a deterrent.

Great example:

Walking the dogs one night, had the kiddo in the baby backpack. One of my dogs, little dachsund, is very annoying and barks at everything. So, we walk by an apt. with some kids porch-monkeying, drinking beers (though they were all severely underaged) and blasting rap music. It wasn't the ghetto, but not the best place, either. The dog barks, real yip yappy, and even though we're 100 feet away the kids start laughing and yelling jibes. The 'ring-leader' comes our way, beer in hand, barking aggressively at our dog. Scared, I lift my shirt so he can see I'm packing. I didn't touch the gun, just gave him a knowing eyebrow raise as if to say "You don't want this to end up a world of **** for everyone." Kid shut his mouth, turned around and told his crew to shutup, too.

Had I not done that I feel I woulda been rolled for sure. Wallet gone at best, me and my child hurt at worst. Did I do the right thing or best thing? Well, no one was hurt and we moved on.

My dad tells a similar story in the '70s in NYC. Was in the wrong alley one night, just off Wall St. coming out of his hotel. Shoulda turned around, but he was young and stupid and kept going. A couple of thugs setup a little catch system to roll him, so he flashed a piece in his waistband. Guys let him go without a single hassle. No gun, definitely a concussion and a lost wallet, maybe death. Gun, peace.

Bad people in the world, nice to know you can defend yourself when others can't.

Machka I really truly wish you were right. I have seen people you can be kind to, patient with, and smile at, and they still stab you in the back if you turn it to them. but alas, I like your world better than reality.

I just don't associate with those sorts of people. Reality is, you can choose who you associate with ... and where you cycle.

40 years of life, and I can't say I have ever been in a situation where there was even remotely any potential of knifes being drawn and a literal 'stabbing in the back' taking place. Of course figurative "back stabbing" takes place everywhere, but those situations in particular are best dealt with using the "weapons" I listed above.

Best weapon for any situation is a brain. If you ain't got one of those, get a gun, put it in your mouth and pull the trigger...you'll not have to worry about your own safety anymore and you'll make the world safer for the rest of us.

Try working night shift in downtown Philly. Or when your car breaks down in in LA. Anyway I dont want to argue with you, you are right, stay away from bad people and you dont have to deal with it. But I like getting out into the real world, ridign my bike downtown, and refuse to stay home and surrender the rest of the world to the bad guys.

Oh believe me, I don't stay home ... see my website in my signature line below.

Rifle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz1IdG928ns

Dang, you do get around.

That's a good way to get yourself shot IMO. What if that guy and his friends were all armed and drew their guns and shot at you? You could have been killed or worse, they miss you and hit your child over what? Because he was barking at your dog? :rolleyes:

I'm 40 now, lived in Los Angeles through the riots and even drove through an area that was being looted-had no choice, I was going to pick up my wife and the freeways were gridlocked for hours. Avoiding trouble and keeping a cool head is the best way to stay alive IMO.

I prefer Machka's world but if you really need to protect yourself, never display what you aren't absolutely ready to use...and if you do, make sure it is overwhelmingly more effective than theirs.