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Old 06-18-08 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Towing kids in this argument is a moot point I think... nobody will fault anyone that.
D'pends on how cute the gal is towing the kids. In this case it's a guy, so I'll try really hard to find some way to fault him about something, anything.
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Old 06-18-08 | 01:27 PM
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I'll try really hard to find some way to fault him about something, anything.
My bike is orange. Isn't that enough?
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Old 06-18-08 | 02:14 PM
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for normal people, yes, but I think the commuting forum has been overrun by A&S one-size-fits-all nannies lately.
I've noticed the same. Has high gas prices driven (yuk yuk) them all here?
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Old 06-18-08 | 02:23 PM
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Oh God they broken past the containment barrier!!!!!!!
RED ALERT RED ALERT, call the Air Force for a containment strike.
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Old 06-18-08 | 02:47 PM
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If I'm not towing them, I'll be on the street. If I am, you'll find us on the sidewalk, all the way down to the greenway entrance.
A lot of days I drop my older son off at school in the trailer, and continue on to work with the empty trailer so I don't have to double back to drop it off at the house. It's amazing how much more room cars give me when I've got the trailer - of course, they can't tell that there's no kid in there.

I'd ride with it all the time if it didn't add quite so much wind resistance.
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Old 06-18-08 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Commuter
"Mommy? How did my daddy die? Was he killed in a war?"
"No honey."
"Was he a fireman who died rescuing people from a burning building?"
"no sweetheart, he wasn't a fireman."
"Was he a policeman who got shot trying to catch a bad guy?"
"No honey, he wasn't a policeman."
"Well, if he wasn't a soldier or a fireman or a policeman, then how did he die?"
"Well sweetheart, your daddy rode his bike on the road with cars even though there were sidewalks he could have used. He insisted that because it was legal for bikes to be on the road, they should be able to ride on the road with cars."
"Didn't daddy ever learn about matters of dejure and defacto?"
"Yes, your daddy was very smart, he knew about those things, but he was stubborn."
"I like my new daddy. He's a Republican who drives a big gas guzzling SUV with W stickers on it. He'll never get run over on a bicycle."

If you wanna fight that fight, go right ahead man. I'll take my chances and stay alive for my kids. I don't think bicycle road rights is a cause worth dying for. I don't wear any commuter gear other than a backpack and for the .5 miles of sidewalk I use before I get to the bike trail, I slow down or stop for pedestrians if I do happen to encounter them. (I don't encounter any in the morning.)


I noticed several threads today about run ins with motorists. Eventually some of these people will figure out you cannot win a battle with a vehicle that weighs tons more than you.



Maybe if enough people ride on sidewalks there will be pressure to build bike paths.



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Old 06-18-08 | 06:03 PM
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I'd ride with it all the time if it didn't add quite so much wind resistance.
Yeah, I know. I'm exactly lazy enough to just deal with wind resistance because I couldn't be bothered to undo the hitch.
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Old 06-18-08 | 06:08 PM
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I noticed several threads today about run ins with motorists. Eventually some of these people will figure out you cannot win a battle with a vehicle that weighs tons more than you.
That's why I never drive my car on the highway with all those tractor-trailers.

Sorry - couldn't help it.
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Old 06-18-08 | 07:13 PM
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Margo C, this morning I was one of those pedestrians. I stepped out of my children's preschool and was nearly run over by a young woman on a green Schwinn. God help her if I'd been walking out with my kids rather than having just dropped them off.

All sidewalks do not go by buildings, when people here state that they ride on sidewalks I just assume that it's a long lone sidewalk with no people on it. We have plenty of those around here, I'll post pics if ya want.
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Old 06-18-08 | 07:32 PM
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My bike is orange. Isn't that enough?
I used to have an orange bike.
But the fact that you being so accommodating and friendly is reason enough to hate you and yell at you.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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beer bottle whizzed by his head - hardly his first run-in with a hostile motorist.

Again, he was lucky.

"There have been stories of people getting hit upside the head with a beer bottle," said Feeser, who owns Lowcountry Bicycles in Beaufort.

For the serious cyclist, the streets can be mean.


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"You want to turn the other cheek and let it go, but sometimes you need to roll up to them at a stop light and say, 'What are you thinking?' " he said. "There's always an issue when you're out there in traffic with automobiles getting too close and thinking you should be on the sidewalk."

Stephanie Chiang and her boyfriend planned to have a great day.

In the morning, they bought helmets and rode their bicycles out to Tybee Island. They were riding back to Savannah along U.S. 80 before it got dark.

That is all they can remember.

"The next thing I remember, I was waking up at the hospital," Chiang, 20, said Tuesday afternoon.

She is at her mother's home in Pooler, recovering from injuries she suffered last Friday by a hit-and-run driver.

Chiang and Matt Barrow, 22, were struck by an older model white Dodge Ram pickup near Fort Pulaski as they biked toward downtown Savannah about 7:30 p.m.

Chiang, who was pulled from the marshes, suffered a fractured vertebra, a bruised lung and scrapes to her backside, arms and legs, and she required stitches in her chin.

Barrow, who had a chain-link bicycle lock wrapped around his chest, has three fractured vertebrae and a cracked rib and is stitched up under his arm.

"I can't lift anything," said Barrow, who runs Smooth, a downtown shop that serves frozen treats. "I'm in excruciating pain."

A couple riding behind the hit-and-run driver were crucial to the survival of Chiang and Barrow.

"You hate to think it was intentional, but it sure looked that way," said Jim Pedrick, who witnessed the incident along with his wife.


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Here is a quick search of the news in my area. I could not find any reports of bicyclists getting hit on the sidewalks.
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Old 06-18-08 | 07:41 PM
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But the fact that you being so accommodating and friendly is reason enough to hate you and yell at you. Thank you for your cooperation.
Accommodating is when I don't ram the stroller into anyone's ankles on 8th Avenue. This is tactical alliance-building.

And I actually do have an orange bike. Though they claim it's "flame duotone."

But it's orange.
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Old 06-18-08 | 07:58 PM
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for normal people, yes, but I think the commuting forum has been overrun by A&S one-size-fits-all nannies lately.
+1 I normally don't agree with chipcom cuz he's a leg shaving, ass slapping, cross dressing roadie racer, but most of us just want to get to work safely and could care less about some dude riding 8 mph on the sidewalk. Pay attention to your ride, not some other dude's.
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Old 06-18-08 | 08:06 PM
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I only slapped your ass that one time...at band camp.
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I thought that involved a flute and some lube....
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Old 06-18-08 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
I thought that involved a flute and some lube....
OK, so the video wasn't destroyed like SOMEONE said it was?
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Old 06-18-08 | 08:20 PM
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Hence the reason I am blind. Thank you very much.
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I only slapped your ass that one time...at band camp.
So you don't deny you shave your legs?
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Old 06-18-08 | 08:23 PM
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I hope it was an alto. Some things are best not viewed in HD.
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Because of this thread I took note of the times on the commute home i took the sidewalk. I work across the street from a college so I cut through campus and come up on a rather busy street (5:15pm) I take the sidewalk to avoid this traffic and I begin backpedaling to get my legs warmed up for a hill that I have coming up. As you can Imagine I'm going pretty slow so no worries.

Near the next intersection I stop get some water wait till no cars are coming and I get back on the road and roll up to the light. Light changes I go through the light ride up the street a bit till I start going up the hill. The street turns into a two lane road with a turning lane. People love to floor it up this hill and down the other side so I'm courteous and take the sidewalk up the hill so as not to slow everyone down as I huffd and puff my way up. I take a break at the top. traffic is much lighter on the other side of the hill so I take to the streets all the way down.

From there on out it's pretty flat and not busy so I take the lane. All in all I think I rode the sidewalk maybe a mile. Not to bad. As I build up my endurance I'll take it less and less. I've only been commuting for about 2 1/2 weeks now. I usually only find myself there when I'm tired and want to take it easy and rest up so as to not pass out before I get home lol. I am trying really hard not to be that guy that hops on and off sidewalks every few minutes and I can say I've steadily taken it less and less.

I think it's not a bad thing to take the sidewalk if you are going slow and are aware of pedestrians. If you are going fast get in the street.
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Old 06-18-08 | 09:32 PM
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It is annoying though, like a lip smacker at lunch.
Man, I will second that. You know who you are........lip smackers!
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I hope it was an alto. Some things are best not viewed in HD.
OMG - words fail me.
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Old 06-19-08 | 02:32 AM
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All sidewalks do not go by buildings, when people here state that they ride on sidewalks I just assume that it's a long lone sidewalk with no people on it. We have plenty of those around here, I'll post pics if ya want.


^^^^^this.
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Old 06-19-08 | 05:19 AM
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before i started riding i would yell at bikes on the sidewalk "bikes do not belong on the sidewalk!"

now that i ride a bike i still yell "bikes do not belong on the sidewalk!"
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Old 06-19-08 | 07:03 AM
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Just to clear it up, I'm not talking about:

1. kids on bmx bikes riding around their neighborhoods.
2. your last few blocks to work avoiding a one way street.
3. lugging around your brood of children.
4. MUPs. Raleigh doesn't have MUPs downtown and in most of the city. We have bike sanctioned roads.
5. Riding your grandma to the cupcake factory on your ****ing handlebars.

I'm talking about full gear commuters on slab white SIDEWALKS in very nonhostile areas of road for long clips.
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