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Old 01-16-09 | 11:38 AM
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But within the cycling community, "commuter" has a more specific sociological definition. Commuters tend to have a certain attitude, and to use identifiable clothing, gears and bikes. In some ways, I am always a commuter--even when I'm watching TV in the evening--because it's a group in which I claim membership. This is similar to saying that I'm always an American, or I'm always a Methodist. And a nudist is a nudist even when he's wearing clothes.
The thread is about labels for actions, not labels for people. Whether or not you choose to have "commuter" as your primary identity, I certainly hope that you don't refer to your every action as "commuting".
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Old 01-16-09 | 11:46 AM
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The thread is about labels for actions, not labels for people. Whether or not you choose to have "commuter" as your primary identity, I certainly hope that you don't refer to your every action as "commuting".
Just trying to lighten things up. That didn't work!

Hope the rest of your day goes better, expecially your commute!
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Old 01-16-09 | 11:50 AM
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This works for me, even if some of the commuting I do is to my girlfriends for the weekend. Or am I touring when I do that?
You have more than one??? I'd say you were cruising...
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Old 01-16-09 | 11:55 AM
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There can be shades of gray in almost every aspect of life.. So, for our business, I commute (?).. to a computer store 12 miles away , instead of driving the car.. . I consider it work related.. If it's in any way a work related bike trip, it'd consider it a bike commute.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:15 PM
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Even under that definition my riding is still 100% commuting. Unless you count the 50 foot detour that I take into a store on the way home sometimes, or the 1/4 mile ride down the road and back to check an adjustment I just made.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:16 PM
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I believe Shakespeare wrote a play that covers this thread.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:21 PM
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Agree 100% with the OP. Otherwise you might as well call me a roadie.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:32 PM
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On a somewhat related note... I ride exclusively on roads, wear lycra when appropriate, I like to go fast, and I go on long rides just for the fun of it. But I never post in the road forum because I feel like I'm just not part of that culture.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:33 PM
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Seems to fit this debate.
xkcd?
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:43 PM
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xkcd?
Jes... jes it is...
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:56 PM
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So people can't commute by car? That's what you're implying. That would be news to me.

I call BS on your BS call. If you work at the grocery store, then you commute there. Otherwise you just go shopping, and the mode of travel is irrelevant.

As another poster said, commuting implies a trip which is repeated. Obama isn't inaugurated every day. Unless one is a busy wedding singer, one doesn't go to weddings everyday. Therefore, one does not commute to either of those.

If I ride my bike to the trail, ride on the trail, and then ride back---did I commute to the trail? Not unless I worked there. No, I just rode my bike. By your definition, the bicycle leg of a triathlon is a commute to the marathon leg. LOL
you missed my point. I wasn't implying that you can't commute by car. I was saying that if you can go anywhere by car that is called commuting can be by bike as well. It's all semantics.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:57 PM
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To cover all my bases, I'm gonna race some guys on the MUP, too.
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Old 01-16-09 | 12:58 PM
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you missed my point. I wasn't implying that you can't commute by car. I was saying that if you can go anywhere by car that is called commuting can be by bike as well. It's all semantics.
My understanding was that going to work and back by car is commuting. Going to the store, the movies, etc., and so forth, is not.
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:00 PM
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I guess my understanding differs then.
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Popeyecahn
You have more than one??? I'd say you were cruising...
LOL, no 1's enough for me!
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pawn
I guess my understanding differs then.

Post 15 exists to clear up that confusion.
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:18 PM
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Lance Armstrong had a purpose in mind (winning the Tour de France) when he rode up Alpe d'Huez. Was he commuting?

The average suburban family has a purpose in mind (recreation and spending time together) when they take a spin on the local MUP. Are they commuting?

Someone who rides a bike for exercise has a purpose in mind (fitness). Are they commuting?

I agree with OP. "Commuting" has a meaning. I don't mind that there are a lot of utility cycling posts in this forum, because they have so much in common in terms of gear, riding environment and other issues, but it's not too much to ask that people not label it "commuting" every time they get on a bicycle to go somewhere.
Er, come on now. Pawns point was that he considers it a commute when the destination has a purpose, IE going to the grocery store to get groceries, or your job to work. It's ridiculous that you are twisting that into him calling a training/recreational ride a commute.

Maybe we should change the name of the forum to "Cycling to your place of Employment" to clear things up for you whiners. As far as I'm concerned, you can argue the semantics of "Commuting" all you want, but it's pretty clear that the spirit of the forum is transportational cycling (I think I just made that word up).
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Post 15 exists to clear up that confusion.
ok.

...my name is Jeff S as well. coincidence.
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Old 01-16-09 | 01:53 PM
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Technically unless you're working at the Inauguration, it's not commuting.

On the other hand, the word choice managed to convey what the poster was trying to communicate. So I'd say from a communication standpoint, - mission accomplished !

As far as whether or not it belongs in this forum, I'd also say yes. Part of the value of the forum is being able to to tap into the collective knowledge that exists here. That knowledge extends beyond the narrow definition of what "commuting" is.
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Old 01-16-09 | 02:53 PM
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WTF cares what it's called...it's all riding a bike. Y'all are gonna tick me off and make me put my boot up your butt...after which I'll prolly get sent to jail and hope that the warden COMMUTES my sentence.

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Old 01-16-09 | 03:23 PM
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Er, come on now. Pawns point was that he considers it a commute when the destination has a purpose, IE going to the grocery store to get groceries, or your job to work. It's ridiculous that you are twisting that into him calling a training/recreational ride a commute.

Maybe we should change the name of the forum to "Cycling to your place of Employment" to clear things up for you whiners. As far as I'm concerned, you can argue the semantics of "Commuting" all you want, but it's pretty clear that the spirit of the forum is transportational cycling (I think I just made that word up).
So, by that logic, anytime you take your bike (or walk, for that matter(why not??)) for any purpose (ie; 99% of trips), it is a commute. Bzzzzzz. Wrong again.

People, there are many dictionaries out there. Some of you may have actual dictionaries in your houses (not online!?!?!?!????). Open one up, and look at the definition. The key is _regularity_ in the travel. Let's not start making up our own definitions of words for our own purposes.

Now, I'm tired of this. I need to commute to the bar for a few.....
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Old 01-16-09 | 03:45 PM
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I thought the purpose of this "Commuting" forum is to discuss bike-related topics, accessories, and issues that are commonly encountered by people who are commuting to/from work (?) In other words, a commuter bike will most likely be outfitted differently than a time trial bike or a touring bike (even though there may be some similarities between all three, and you could certainly commute on a racing bike or a touring bike).

Whether or not you actually commute to work doesn't matter - just as long as you're interested in discussing issues/gear that are commonly used by commuters. I work from home, so technically I don't commute anywhere. However, I do use my bike to buy groceries, run errands, meet friends, visit family, and to visit clients (for work purposes). In other words, I try to ride my bike in almost all instances where 99.9% of Americans would just drive. As you can guess, my bike has lights galore, a rack, fenders. Everywhere I ride, I wear a reflective vest, LED leg bands, etc. In fact - if you took a look at my bike you would probably guess that I commute to work every day via bike (even though I don't).

Thus - like most car-free individuals and utility cyclists, I am keenly interested in all commuter-related issues and discussions. Whether or not someone's riding can be defined as "commuting" kind of misses the point.
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Old 01-16-09 | 03:48 PM
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Let's not start making up our own definitions of words for our own purposes.
But... but... Shakespeare not only did that, he actually made up the words that went along with the definitions he made up... and after he did so, he was considered one of the greatest bards of the English language. Shouldn't we all aspire to be like the great ones?
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Old 01-16-09 | 03:55 PM
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"Commuting is regular travel between one's place of residence and place of work or full time study."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuting
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This debate is as old as the dictionary.

Side 1: "The dictionary says this word means xxx therefor any other use is EVIL."
Side 2: "Get a life! You understood what I said."

These two sides do not listen to each other so this argument never ends.

Fortunately they'll all be tired of it by Monday. (And we'll be on to the next senseless argument!)
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