so...this clipless thing.
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I'm not really sold on clipless for commuting. Last year I got a cheapo set of shoes so I didn't waste a $300 set of sidis on commuting and wasn't happy with them. This year I've just decided to leave the bmx platforms I ride through the winter on. I figure the amount of time I'd spend changing shoes twice a day is far more than the amount of time it would take me to swap out the pedals when I DO want to ride with clipless (like on a long tour or weekend ride)
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Why not go to your LBS and buy shoes and pedals? There you can get the expertise and help you need as a newcomer to clipless pedaling. Don't buy shoes off the interwebs, unless, as mentioned above, you have worn the same shoe before ... which I presume doesn't apply here.
I recommend SPD (double sided) pedals and MTB shoes.
Less than $100? I don't think so. You get what you pay for in this case especially.
I recommend SPD (double sided) pedals and MTB shoes.
Less than $100? I don't think so. You get what you pay for in this case especially.
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This is a tad out of your price range, but I think these are really great shoes. They are actually comfortable to walk in (I maybe walk a half mile in them a day, so I'm not saying they are comfy for long walks, but for standing around all day and walking around an office, they are plenty fine). These have held up great, I've been using them for almost a year and they are not at all worn out, they hold up much better than sneakers. The only problem I'm having is the tread has started to wear just enough so that the cleats are clicking a bit on the floor. Also, these were great for me all winter, plenty insulated to around 20 degrees (doesn't get much colder in Georgia).
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=2120
I am running M540s SPDs at the moment and like them a lot, but if this is your first clipless system, you might want to have a look at egg beaters or candys. I prefer the feel of SPDs, but I admit that they have a bit more of a learning curve than egg beaters do. If you go with the egg beaters, you'll get the hang of it really quickly and have no problem clipping in and out.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=2120
I am running M540s SPDs at the moment and like them a lot, but if this is your first clipless system, you might want to have a look at egg beaters or candys. I prefer the feel of SPDs, but I admit that they have a bit more of a learning curve than egg beaters do. If you go with the egg beaters, you'll get the hang of it really quickly and have no problem clipping in and out.
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I used those shoes with SPD pedals. The shoes were OK, I still use them sometimes in the summer as they breathe well. Not so good for cold weather.
SPD pedals sucked with road shoes, better SPD-SL or look. The cleat is small and so is the pedal catch. You will often find that you over shoot the catch as the hard bottomed shoe will slide across the metal and tiny pedal and catch. SPD-SL on the other hand is hard to miss as the cleat and pedal catch are so big. I never look down when clipping with SPD-SL.
Platform on one side and SPD on the other are horrible pedals because gravity makes the catch side face down so you need to flip the pedal with your toe then try and connect before it flips back over. I hated them.
Anyone who declares that road shoes won't work for commuting (or the opposite) that MBT shoes make for a poor commuting choice, is only commenting on their own commute. Bike commuting is such an individual experience that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Think about your own commute before making choices on clothing and bikes. For instance where I work I have clothes, shoes, a washing machine, a shower, my bike stays inside where no one goes near it, so why wouldn't I ride an expensive bike with very little carrying capacity and use road shoes? For me to hear someone declare that road shoes don't work for commuting seems like they have no idea what my commute experience is like, which is probably true.
SPD pedals sucked with road shoes, better SPD-SL or look. The cleat is small and so is the pedal catch. You will often find that you over shoot the catch as the hard bottomed shoe will slide across the metal and tiny pedal and catch. SPD-SL on the other hand is hard to miss as the cleat and pedal catch are so big. I never look down when clipping with SPD-SL.
Platform on one side and SPD on the other are horrible pedals because gravity makes the catch side face down so you need to flip the pedal with your toe then try and connect before it flips back over. I hated them.
Anyone who declares that road shoes won't work for commuting (or the opposite) that MBT shoes make for a poor commuting choice, is only commenting on their own commute. Bike commuting is such an individual experience that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Think about your own commute before making choices on clothing and bikes. For instance where I work I have clothes, shoes, a washing machine, a shower, my bike stays inside where no one goes near it, so why wouldn't I ride an expensive bike with very little carrying capacity and use road shoes? For me to hear someone declare that road shoes don't work for commuting seems like they have no idea what my commute experience is like, which is probably true.
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My initial cost for getting into SPD was about $60. I got Shimano pedals new on eBay for $22 I think, and shoes for about $35. Shipping on both pushed it up to $60. I'm still riding with the same shoes, pedals and cleats, though for the last few weeks I was experimenting with toe clips. I put the SPDs back on for a 65 mile ride on Friday, and though I don't think it matters much, I'll probably leave the SPDs on until I need to ride in street shoes again.
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Anyone who declares that road shoes won't work for commuting (or the opposite) that MBT shoes make for a poor commuting choice, is only commenting on their own commute. Bike commuting is such an individual experience that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Think about your own commute before making choices on clothing and bikes. For instance where I work I have clothes, shoes, a washing machine, a shower, my bike stays inside where no one goes near it, so why wouldn't I ride an expensive bike with very little carrying capacity and use road shoes? For me to hear someone declare that road shoes don't work for commuting seems like they have no idea what my commute experience is like, which is probably true.
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Why not go to your LBS and buy shoes and pedals? There you can get the expertise and help you need as a newcomer to clipless pedaling. Don't buy shoes off the interwebs, unless, as mentioned above, you have worn the same shoe before ... which I presume doesn't apply here.
I recommend SPD (double sided) pedals and MTB shoes.
Less than $100? I don't think so. You get what you pay for in this case especially.
I recommend SPD (double sided) pedals and MTB shoes.
Less than $100? I don't think so. You get what you pay for in this case especially.
And $150 is a little more of a realistic pricepoint for decent shoes/pedals. Shoes like mine run $90 and you can get some Shimano M520s for about $50. Your LBS, check it out.
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I got M520s from eBay for $22 (they said they were used, but they only had a few scratches, I suspect they were used for test rides or something), Shimano mountain shoes (I think M040) for $35 elsewhere. I'm at over 3 years and 15000 miles (in all weather) on the combo, though the shoes have ripped a bit around one toe. I have a backup pair of shoes waiting, also paid $35. I'm going to wear the Shimanos all summer unless they totally fall apart, then switch before winter.
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Noone said it can't be done. If you don't already have shoes and pedals, and aren't going to be a roadie (meaning you don't need to fit in with others), or aren't using your commute to train for your triathalon, you would be hard pressed to come up with a single reason to buy road shoes over mountain shoes for a commute.
The question wasn't about you.
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Yes it is. So if you'd like me to answer the original question, cheap shoes and pedals are are a great way to gain minimal extra efficiency while riding at a large convenience cost. You can get a pretty decent pair of regular shoes or boots for 100. 100 for shoes AND pedals? Not worth it IMO.
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Thanks for the input guys! Since i'm commuting, solo riding 25-30mi a couple times a week, and routinely doing 40-50 mile group rides on the weekends I think i'm going to go with road shoes.
I'm not going to walk farther than my door to my bike, and changing shoes before I walk into work, being able to walk well isn't a real issue.
Plus, if I need to have walking shoes i can swap the pedals in about a minute.
thanks for the great insight, this is why bf is awesome.
I'm not going to walk farther than my door to my bike, and changing shoes before I walk into work, being able to walk well isn't a real issue.
Plus, if I need to have walking shoes i can swap the pedals in about a minute.
thanks for the great insight, this is why bf is awesome.
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Noone said it can't be done. If you don't already have shoes and pedals, and aren't going to be a roadie (meaning you don't need to fit in with others), or aren't using your commute to train for your triathalon, you would be hard pressed to come up with a single reason to buy road shoes over mountain shoes for a commute.
The question wasn't about you.
The question wasn't about you.
Thanks for the input guys! Since i'm commuting, solo riding 25-30mi a couple times a week, and routinely doing 40-50 mile group rides on the weekends I think i'm going to go with road shoes.
I'm not going to walk farther than my door to my bike, and changing shoes before I walk into work, being able to walk well isn't a real issue.
Plus, if I need to have walking shoes i can swap the pedals in about a minute.
thanks for the great insight, this is why bf is awesome.
I'm not going to walk farther than my door to my bike, and changing shoes before I walk into work, being able to walk well isn't a real issue.
Plus, if I need to have walking shoes i can swap the pedals in about a minute.
thanks for the great insight, this is why bf is awesome.
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OK.
Yes, the sizing for the shoe is the European sizing.
You do not need to buy cleats, they come with the pedals.
For the record, your contribution to this thread so far has been 2 posts challenging semantics.
Yes, the sizing for the shoe is the European sizing.
You do not need to buy cleats, they come with the pedals.
For the record, your contribution to this thread so far has been 2 posts challenging semantics.
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Oh, and as for why I didn't post my own clipless solution? It's a totally boring common one and someone else already did.
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Noone said it can't be done. If you don't already have shoes and pedals, and aren't going to be a roadie (meaning you don't need to fit in with others), or aren't using your commute to train for your triathalon, you would be hard pressed to come up with a single reason to buy road shoes over mountain shoes for a commute.
The question wasn't about you.
The question wasn't about you.
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+1, I much prefer road shoes/pedals after switching to Speedplays. They're downright hazardous to walk in without cleat covers, but $10 later and I'm good to go. Then again, walking comfort is nowhere near a priority for me - might be for someone else.
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So, after reading this I am a little confused. I am looking for a solution for my road bike to use it on commuting as an opportunity to train on the way home. I bike/bus and have the SPD-SL type cleats on my road shoes, but this is no good for my walk into work (3 blocks from where I park the bike) Are there any MTB shoes or sandals that work with spd-sl?
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I use road shoes, but then, my desk is about 25 feet from where my bike sits, just outside the window. I also used road shoes however when I still lived in Seattle and the journey to my desk was quite a bit further... albeit on carpeted floors, which were road shoe/cleat friendly.
In most cases, I would say that the mountain bike shoe comments are fair, especially since the OP doesn't sound like they're going to be signing up for a local crit any time soon.
In most cases, I would say that the mountain bike shoe comments are fair, especially since the OP doesn't sound like they're going to be signing up for a local crit any time soon.
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we should all contribute 10 dollars for some R&D and spec out some real commuter shoes. We could all make a killing since i bet you half the people who walk into a bike store want a shoe they can also feel comfortable walking around in.
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Yet another vote for mountain bike shoes for commuting.
It is worthwhile to call/visit several bike shops in your area to see if they have any closeouts on shoes (which is not too uncommon).
I was lucky enough to get some '07 old stock closeouts this spring for 60% off of retail, so check around in your area.
As far as pedals are concerned, some form of platform is desireable, and I personally recommend double-sided engagement (one-sided can be a real pain IMO). Check out the other thread on this topic:
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/554263-quest-ideal-commuting-pedal.html
It is worthwhile to call/visit several bike shops in your area to see if they have any closeouts on shoes (which is not too uncommon).
I was lucky enough to get some '07 old stock closeouts this spring for 60% off of retail, so check around in your area.
As far as pedals are concerned, some form of platform is desireable, and I personally recommend double-sided engagement (one-sided can be a real pain IMO). Check out the other thread on this topic:
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/554263-quest-ideal-commuting-pedal.html
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I went clipless for about $50. $35 for shoes, about $20 for Shimano 520 pedals on eBay.
I think they're overrated, personally. I rode with them for 3 years, and I still prefer having them on to not, but not a whole lot. I swapped out for platforms over the weekend, and I don't care all that much one way or the other. Toe clips work pretty well too.
I think they're overrated, personally. I rode with them for 3 years, and I still prefer having them on to not, but not a whole lot. I swapped out for platforms over the weekend, and I don't care all that much one way or the other. Toe clips work pretty well too.
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mtn shoes are great all around riding shoes. I also have a pair of road shoes that I can use with my booties since the booties don't fit over my mtn shoes.