Would you bug out?
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Would you bug out?
Riding home Friday afternoon on a two lane hwy (55mph speed limit). No traffic in oncoming lane. Clear visibility for miles. In usual position about 2 feet over from edge of pavement. Hear approaching car/truck from behind me. Then, suddenly, "BEEEEEP, BEE-BE-BEE-BEEEEP". Now, I've had plenty of people honk at me from in front of me, behind me etc. Most all of those times were people blowing their horn not in warning, but more of "I'm in a car, you're on a bike, here I come and get off the road, can't you see it's for cars?" type declarations.
So, this truck passed me with a good 3 foot clearance, but, a microsecond later I see a Green SUV that is trying to pass the truck as it's passing me. The SUV goes off the road and nearly loses control, but somehow manages to steady itself and get back on the road and timidly follow the truck after it passes me.
Now I don't know who blew their horn. It could have been:
a) the truck warning me that some idiot is approaching
b) the truck warning the SUV that it is not safe to pass
c) the SUV saying "what the heck are you doing when I'm trying to pass?"
In any case, I got to thinking about it and wondered whether I should have jumped off the road? What if the SUV passed, but did not see me until the last second? Or what if it collided into the truck and the truck into me? Do you normally jump off the road in situations like this? Of course I don't know how you know that this is a "situation like this" until after the fact. I quit using a mirror years ago, but now wondering whether to go back to one.
Cheers
So, this truck passed me with a good 3 foot clearance, but, a microsecond later I see a Green SUV that is trying to pass the truck as it's passing me. The SUV goes off the road and nearly loses control, but somehow manages to steady itself and get back on the road and timidly follow the truck after it passes me.
Now I don't know who blew their horn. It could have been:
a) the truck warning me that some idiot is approaching
b) the truck warning the SUV that it is not safe to pass
c) the SUV saying "what the heck are you doing when I'm trying to pass?"
In any case, I got to thinking about it and wondered whether I should have jumped off the road? What if the SUV passed, but did not see me until the last second? Or what if it collided into the truck and the truck into me? Do you normally jump off the road in situations like this? Of course I don't know how you know that this is a "situation like this" until after the fact. I quit using a mirror years ago, but now wondering whether to go back to one.
Cheers
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I would sooner ride without my helmet before I would ride without my mirror.
A good part of my commute is on one of the busiest 4 lane roads (2 each way) in the state.
A good part of my commute is on one of the busiest 4 lane roads (2 each way) in the state.
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You don't know, and I doubt a mirror would have helped in this case. Worry about pianos falling on your head before you worry about how to magically deduce what is going on in a situation like this.
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We are allowed to ride on the highway here, but it's my last refuge. I fear very few things on my bike, but being on a 3ft wide shoulder with a concrete retaining wall on one side, and cars whizzing by @ 60mph on the other is one of them.
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I almost always ride with a mirror. I always have it if I'm riding roads like the one you mentioned, so I can keep an eye on what's approaching from the back.
If I saw some crazy shiz-naz like that going on behind me, I'd be (minimally) at the far right edge of the shoulder to give the widest berth possible for everyone involved.
If I saw some crazy shiz-naz like that going on behind me, I'd be (minimally) at the far right edge of the shoulder to give the widest berth possible for everyone involved.
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+1 on the mirror.
I learned to drive in Amish country in Ohio. One of the things drummed into us was how slow horses and buggies are actually traveling. If they don't pull off the road you must pass them (or not) as if they were cars, but make up your mind as soon as you see them ahead of you because you catch up in no time. It sounds to me like the truck screwed up--should have pulled out to pass earlier or not at all, and should have gone all the way over the center line. That would have revealed your presence to the SUV and deterred the SUV from passing the truck while it was passing you. Instead, the truck must have slowed way down (but not enough) while thinking about what to do. Whenever you have to think about what to do you become unpredictable. Hence the honking. Not much you could have done about it all, but a mirror might have helped you keep track.
I learned to drive in Amish country in Ohio. One of the things drummed into us was how slow horses and buggies are actually traveling. If they don't pull off the road you must pass them (or not) as if they were cars, but make up your mind as soon as you see them ahead of you because you catch up in no time. It sounds to me like the truck screwed up--should have pulled out to pass earlier or not at all, and should have gone all the way over the center line. That would have revealed your presence to the SUV and deterred the SUV from passing the truck while it was passing you. Instead, the truck must have slowed way down (but not enough) while thinking about what to do. Whenever you have to think about what to do you become unpredictable. Hence the honking. Not much you could have done about it all, but a mirror might have helped you keep track.
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Yes, it's allowed (and also the only route). It's a state highway, and supposedly the DOT will be adding a bike lane on the shoulder of each lane within the next year.
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It can be a bit freaky at first, but just like any other road riding around traffic, you get used to it.
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It sounds to me like the truck driver did the..."oh my god there's a cyclist so I better slow down real sloooww and pass him on the left (ridiculously wayyy to the left)" routine while not paying attention to the maniac SUV driver (soccer mom on her cel phone) coming up from behind and now for some reason is going to try to pass the truck that is now weaving into the other lane....thus causing the SUV driver (soccer mom) to lean on the horn as if to say "WTF"!!!!
I don't know what I would've done in that situation but if I had to ride on a highway I would have mirrors like the other folks have suggested.
I don't know what I would've done in that situation but if I had to ride on a highway I would have mirrors like the other folks have suggested.
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As has been said more than a few times already, a mirror is your friend. I think of my helmet more as a convenient place to mount my mirror than as a tool for keeping my head uncracked. Given the choice between my mirror and helmet, I'd take the mirror.
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I'd move for a semi (which I could tell anyday from an SUV's horn). You never know, they might be warning you that they're not sure they can get slowed down or pass you safely.
I usually get treated so well by semi's that I feel obliged to return the favor.
I usually get treated so well by semi's that I feel obliged to return the favor.
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Millions of US cyclists ride the highways. It's reasonably safe and much more enjoyable than the city. You can actually get some decent speeds since you rarely need to stop for anything.
And, as others pointed out, something demeaning about your being a child and a girl, etc etc.
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Or do you mean that they're going to provide a wide enough shoulder to ride on? Around here we only call it a shoulder if you can park your car on it.



